So Gametrailers posted this trailer today mistakenly early and then they took it down and now BOOM. Like a ninja I found dat shit on Youtube. (okay so I complained on twitter and someone linked me but hey...) Anyways, trailer is below. Looks pretty great if you ask me I really enjoy the character design of Lightning she is one of my favorite female characters I think probably ever if I really drill down into things. Anyways as advertised looks like its going to be her final journey and she is doing it alone. I'm going to be real interested to see how they explain and work in everything that happened at the end of FFXIII-2 and how exactly she plans on saving not just the world but well... time itself. So whats everyone think?

Seeing frame drops in a promotional trailer is certainly a cause for concern.

I am still really confused on how this new city got formed; Is it the city on Bhunivelze or whatever the fuck it was, the new cocoon?

Still, I'm pretty excited, that combat seems potentially interesting (seems like more action based form of the 13 battle system)

suprisingly hyped but that battle system looks worrying .. if its alll basicly an extended version of the lightnings requiem minigame (the "true ending" dlc ) then im going to be sorely disappointed .. it was fun but a single party member for the entire game :( blleehhhhhh

otherwise looks like were slowly converging on the world from the original ff versus 13 trailer.

looks appropriately awful.

I feel like these games just get weirder and weirder. Also, dem frames.

also wonder which god they're talking about, cause there's multiple gods in the FF lexicon and Etro died (for our sins). Either Pulse or Lindzei I guessssssssssssss

That city reminded me of the one in Dragon Age 2.

Nope. Looks silly.

That battle music is still great though.

@Animasta: I got a bit of a Crisis Core vibe off of it minus the absolutely DUMB slots system.

@Animasta: Also is there really? Cause I took the last game as Etro was kind of the "IT" of the universe since ya know... the timeline started to collapse once Noel killed Caius.

@believer258 said:

That city reminded me of the one in Dragon Age 2.

well DA2 was basically a JRPG anyway so it makes perfect sense

@Demoskinos: pulse made the world and lindzei made the fal'cie (and cocoon) so I would assume they're all equally important (I think Lindzei was the deity the Primarch was trying to bring back by killing Cocoon)

I don't think I could enjoy just having a single party member the entire game. Not unless the combat system is drastically different. Either way, I still need to get to XIII-2 before I'll consider giving this a go.

Man, you can really hear the Liara in Lightning's voice. The city setting is kinda weird, and got  a bit of an AssCreed vibe from it.

@Demoskinos: Lightning strikes me as an unremarkable character, not terrible granted and certainly no Hope but not really anything special either. Karen from Shadow Hearts: Covenant is probably the best female character I can think of and exceeds Lightning in virtually every regard up to and including usefulness in combat.

@Fredchuckdave said:

@Demoskinos: Lightning strikes me as an unremarkable character

oh ho ho ho ho

Shame that the only thing I like about those games (13/13-2) is the combat and nothing else.

So the game is now RPG Assassin's Creed where everything climbable is highlighted in red similar to Mirror's Edge, and at some point Lightning gets sick ass Adam Jensen sunglasses?

What the fuck is Final Fantasy XIII now?

@Animasta: Fuck, its been awhile so what was Orphan's ploy then? I remember vaguely the whole Ragnarok thing with Vanille and Fang but I forget why that mattered.

@Fredchuckdave said:

@Demoskinos: Lightning strikes me as an unremarkable character, not terrible granted and certainly no Hope but not really anything special either. Karen from Shadow Hearts: Covenant is probably the best female character I can think of and exceeds Lightning in virtually every regard up to and including usefulness in combat.

well considering how 13-2 ends, lightening is basically a demigod by this point, so probably a little more useful (I agree with you on the whole though, not that special).

@Demoskinos: they wanted to bring back their deity because of... reasons I can't even begin to remember, and ragnarok was just them trying to save cocoon

god that game is such a blur, I remember 13-2 much better

Liara?

@face15 said:

Liara?

she's always been liara

@Animasta: I played like 20 hours of XIII and didn't notice until just watching that trailer. That's good stuff.

Not a huge fan of Lighting as a character, but she was miles ahead of pretty much everyone else but Sazh... Come to think of it, I would totally play Sazh Returns: Final Fantasy XIII.

@Demoskinos: Orphan's ploy was to kill everybody on Cocoon so that their departing souls would throw open a metaphysical door beyond which their god lived. Basically, the Fal'cie missed their daddy so they threw a hissy fit to get his attention. Ragnarok, I believe, was the only thing badass enough to do the job, since Cocoon Fal'cie are apparently prohibited from sabotaging themselves.

Didn't find it a terribly compelling motivation at the time, but there it is.

@Encephalon: I mean to be fair it's not like dysley was a terribly compelling character beyond his voice actor so it fits.

also they were literal gods so who knows what the fuck motivates them

I do think Snow is a great character if only for silliness and propensity for breaking the 4th wall. Also punching dudes and shooting guns in the air yelling you're a terrorist is fantastic.

@Milkman said:

that joke was funny when the game was announced

(also she's right FF13 was bad but 13-2 was way better and no one cared)

No intention on buying it because I can't stand Final Fantasy stories anymore (XII-2's characters broke me) but I find myself interested non-the-less because it looks like they made the game like the Lightning DLC for XII-2 which was the only part of the game I actually liked. Well, the one-on-one system anyway, not having to fight that dude over and over and lose over and over just so that I could "level up" and finish it.

I'll only watch that trailer if Serah is dead for sure for sure and if Fang is alive alive.

@rjayb89 said:

I'll only watch that trailer if Serah is dead for sure for sure and if Fang is alive alive.

the first part is accurate (afaik), the second is probably accurate, I think they cut Fang and Vanille out of the crystal before boxing up the city

@Animasta: yeah but wont the whole eventual endpoint be that time is fixed blah blah and serah doesnt have to sacrifice herself to save lightning form her destiny since lightnings destiny of being stuck in time or whatever will not exist ? just saying its highly likely serah comes back.

@envane said:

@Animasta: yeah but wont the whole eventual endpoint be that time is fixed blah blah and serah doesnt have to sacrifice herself to save lightning form her destiny since lightnings destiny of being stuck in time or whatever will not exist ? just saying its highly likely serah comes back.

They have yet to mention her at all, afaik, so I honestly have no idea

Oh boy, that framerate. And I guess this ruins my Liara/Rise fan fic.

This looks fucking terrible. Holy shit. The environments look like an Xbox game uprezed in HD. I got a Sudeki vibe from it. And that framerate. That HUD. Ugh. Please Square, don't fuck this up any further than you already have.

edit: didn't square say that this was an action-RPG, not unlike Versus ? If so, then why do I get the feeling that the combat is the exact same as in the first two games, but with actions mapped to the face buttons, Dragon Age-style ?

@Demoskinos said:

@Animasta: I got a bit of a Crisis Core vibe off of it minus the absolutely DUMB slots system.

If this game is even half as good as Crisis Core I will be happy.

So Lightning is Bayonetta now, fighting the corrupt minions of god. Except, you know, not awesome to its core.

I'm pumped, this looks like it can be interesting, I loved the combat in the last two I hope this takes it a step further. Unlike most people I really loved 13 and not so much 13-2. I hope story wise it leans more to 13.

It is almost like they grabbed footage from a prototype build...The city seems empty, and uninteresting.

The combat might be great, and that's why I stuck through all of XIII and most of XIII-2, so I guess a wait and see approach is in order.

And by wait and see I mean, wait until I can snag it from 20 bucks or less.

This game looks weird. I'm not sure what's going on, I'm not sure I like the idea of playing solo, but...

WHY THE FUCK AM I SO HYPED FOR THIS GAME!?

@TooWalrus: Because you're being irrational ? Seriously, there is nothing to be hyped about for now. Maybe the game will turn out to be great; but from what we have so far, you should not be reacting this way.

@AuthenticM: I actually really liked FFXIII. I finished XIII-2 and while I don't think it was as good, I still enjoyed it... Maybe that music still grips at my heart strings or something. I don't even care what kind of reception this game gets, I'll be buying it day one.

Sigh...

This might be another Day 1 Purchase. I -really- hope Square doesn't muck this up.

@TooWalrus: GET HYPE!

I'm with ya I dont know why either but something about it!

@rebgav said:

That is a terrible trailer. On the plus side, it did a good job of killing my burgeoning interest in returning to the Final Fantasy series.

*waits patiently for FF13Versus*

There's a math station?

Boo, I want Snow Villiers: Time Cop!

Nice, looks pretty badass. It looks like this time around, Paradigms will change the inputs of ABXY and give it that more action-RPG feel. Also, she looks like a more awesome and flow-y version of Ezio when walking around town. Love her new style, they really know what to do when designing her character. I noticed as well that you can change equipment and it actually will change what she's wearing. That's neat as fuck, finally a Final Fantasy game with equippable clothing and gear that you can notice, instead of just a sword or accessories. I can't remember if any other FF games have that feature.

@Milkman said:

Haha! Never seen that before till now!

What's up with the frame rate in that video? lol

Either way I am excited for this game, played both XIII and XIII-2. I think they were both decent entries in the FF series.

As someone who's never played any of the XIII games, the only thing that stands out to me personally in that trailer aside from that delightful frame rate is that innocuous pole in the middle of the city. I just like how it seems to be there mostly because it can be there and nothing else.