Justin Wong issued yellow card for EVO

#1 Posted by GlenTennis (3145 posts) -

According to the governing board for EVO, Justin Wong "underperformed" against Noel Brown in the losers final of a road to EVO tournament. Basically if he gets another yellow card he's suspended and can't play at EVO.

By the under performing is obvious if you watch the video, he has Phoenix on point. I personally can't stand Noel Brown ever since he punched that dude, so I say Justin got what he deserved.

You can read the whole story here.

#2 Posted by Jeffsekai (7032 posts) -

I think this whole thing is dumb as hell.

#3 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

Good fuck em now everyone else will get farther.

#4 Edited by Skytylz (4033 posts) -

He was probably in trouble with internet hacker gangs and had to throw the match.

#5 Edited by smitty86 (698 posts) -

 Yeah, I read this earlier and thought it made sense given the standard that Evo wants to hold itself up to. I can somewhat understand the Phoenix  on point barely even though it is a terrible choice since some people have done it before. But to me, it was when he was using Skrull and had zero idea of how to do the moves. Still though, what was worse, Justin throwing this match and playing a part in trying to get the brackets changed or the work of Noel "hey let's change the rules and make loser's finals 3/5" Brown?

#6 Posted by GlenTennis (3145 posts) -
@smitty86 said:
" Noel "hey let's change the rules and make loser's finals 3/5" Brown? "
Yeah that was real shitty, but there's no EVO points awarded for team tournies. Also I guess the rules had officially stated that it was 3/5, even though they both verbally agreed to 2/3.
#7 Posted by JJWeatherman (14558 posts) -
@Skytylz said:
" He was probably in trouble with internet hacker gangs and had to throw the match. "
That would be terrific. Bad for him, but you know.
#8 Posted by supermike6 (3564 posts) -

I read the story, and the comments, and have concluded that this is kind of really retarded. He has the right t pick stupid characters and deploy stupid strategies all he likes, that's just part of the game. If everyone just kept playing exactly the same why would anyone watch?

#9 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

but he won the match with Phoenix on point(the first one anyway), he was trolling the hell out of Noel, but i can see why they gave the punishment out

#10 Posted by JJOR64 (18989 posts) -

I seen that and was like "What the fuck is this guy doing?"

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#11 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

Justin is a fat cry baby anyway.

He QQs like a bitch and there are dozens and dozens of players better than him.

#12 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

That is intresting. I wish I watched the MVC3 tourney now.
#13 Posted by demontium (4709 posts) -

What?

#14 Posted by fullmetal5550 (345 posts) -

Why exactly did he punch that guy? Also, the judges or whoever enforces the rules there should have banned him from the tournament for punching that guy.

#15 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@fullmetal5550 said:
" Why exactly did he punch that guy? Also, the judges or whoever enforces the rules there should have banned him from the tournament for punching that guy. "
He's Justin, normally attacking someone is automatic Red card...but Justin brings in money, so they need him in EVO.
#16 Edited by SuperWristBands (2266 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:

" @fullmetal5550 said:

" Why exactly did he punch that guy? Also, the judges or whoever enforces the rules there should have banned him from the tournament for punching that guy. "

He's Justin, normally attacking someone is automatic Red card...but Justin brings in money, so they need him in EVO. "
Justin didn't punch anyone...

Also, according to whatever it was I just watched. I think it was called Cross Fire, some dude picked up Noel's stuff he had taken out of his pockets (edit for clarity: Noel empties his pockets before playing to be more comfortable) and thrown them on the ground after Noel had lost his first match. Noel then went on to tell him that he did not want anything to do with him for the rest of the tournament because, being fine with trash talk, he was not okay with him throwing his stuff. Dude did not leave Noel alone, Noel punch him in his face.
#17 Posted by StaticFalconar (4849 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" Justin is a fat cry baby anyway.He QQs like a bitch and there are dozens and dozens of players better than him. "
@Sasran said:
" @KaosAngel said:

" @fullmetal5550 said:

" Why exactly did he punch that guy? Also, the judges or whoever enforces the rules there should have banned him from the tournament for punching that guy. "

He's Justin, normally attacking someone is automatic Red card...but Justin brings in money, so they need him in EVO. "
Justin didn't punch anyone...Also, according to whatever it was I just watched. I think it was called Cross Fire, some dude picked up Noel's stuff he had taken out of his pockets (edit for clarity: Noel empties his pockets before playing to be more comfortable) and thrown them on the ground after Noel had lost his first match. Noel then went on to tell him that he did not want anything to do with him for the rest of the tournament because, being fine with trash talk, he was not okay with him throwing his stuff. Dude did not leave Noel alone, Noel punch him in his face. "
I don't think you know who justin, Noel or any of these guys are. Justin is a pretty stand up guy that had played a predetermined team of super low tier units one week just because somebody bet him he couldn't win with that team. When the going got tough and Justin was one game away from being eliminated, he could have switched to a winning team that he knew, but rather took the lost since he knows he doesn't always have to proove himself like he did when he was younger. The amount of players better then him at MVC3 is probably less then 5. In fact, the usual East Coast vs West Coast rivalry always have each coast either trying to claim Justin for their coast, or just saying he's not allowed to be on either team, just so its more even. 

Noel Brown as Sasran said was the guy that got into a fight a couple weeks ago and it was with another guy not Justin. AND the fight and the low tier Justin Team wasn't even the same tournament as the one that Justin so called threw the match to Noel. 

Personally, I thought Justin was just trolling and didn't care that much since he probably did the math and found out if he can at least get past a certain rank in each evo qualifier, he would be ranked number one still come EVO even if he didn't always get first place. Kinda like a great fighter clearly winning on points for the first 60% of the match then just stopped attacking as hard for the rest of the match because he knows he already won. 
#18 Posted by StarvingGamer (8227 posts) -
@supermike6 It wasn't just picking stupid characters, later when he switched to his real team he started being really obvious about losing on purpose. He dropped more combos over 3 matches with his mains than he has across every tournament for the past 2 months combined. That and he apparently also forgot how to block for the remainder of the set. It's painfully obvious if you watch the replay.
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#19 Posted by Jeffsekai (7032 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" Justin is a fat cry baby anyway.He QQs like a bitch and there are dozens and dozens of players better than him. "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH, oh boy.
#20 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5144 posts) -

Now it's a real sport!

#21 Posted by RIDEBIRD (1232 posts) -

I think I know how people feel when they stumble into a thread about professional StarCraft now. 

#22 Posted by Scooper (7881 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" Justin is a fat cry baby anyway.He QQs like a bitch and there are dozens and dozens of players better than him. "
Incorrect.
#23 Posted by craigbo180 (1739 posts) -

This has to be one of the lamest things ever.


#24 Edited by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -
Edit: Totally came across as a massive dick. Apologies.

@KaosAngel said:

" @fullmetal5550 said:

" Why exactly did he punch that guy? Also, the judges or whoever enforces the rules there should have banned him from the tournament for punching that guy. "

He's Justin, normally attacking someone is automatic Red card...but Justin brings in money, so they need him in EVO. "
It wasn't Justin that punched anyone, man. Noel Brown went crazy on some guy in crutches a few weeks ago (a decent player, but I forget who). 

The whole thing with 'cards', as far as I know, has never been a 'thing' before, and makes no sense as far as I'm concerned. Why dock someone for playing exactly how they want? He didn't cheat and/or lose his EVO place, so why would they warn him?



#25 Posted by FLStyle (4693 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" @fullmetal5550 said:
" Why exactly did he punch that guy? Also, the judges or whoever enforces the rules there should have banned him from the tournament for punching that guy. "
He's Justin, normally attacking someone is automatic Red card...but Justin brings in money, so they need him in EVO. "
Someone doesn't watch the streams haha
#26 Posted by OneManX (1693 posts) -

I guess you can say.... Justin got taken... for a ride


*puts on shades*



#27 Posted by Slaker117 (4842 posts) -

As someone who just recently started to pay attention to the fighting game community, what exactly is going on? Justin (I get who that is, top player dude) gets penalized because he didn't play well? Am I understanding that right? Shouldn't not playing well be it's own punishment?

Also, why did that Noel Brown guy start attacking that other guy? That's not actually related though, right? Kaos is just being disruptive as always.

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#28 Posted by Shadow (4980 posts) -

Wow. This is all really, really stupid.

#29 Posted by Daavpuke (120 posts) -

This is the dumbest thing I read all week and I read some stupid stuff. So, that dude can't play how he wants to?

Also, that one dude is taunting this Noel person and everyone seems surprised he gets a slap? Seems like the expectable thing to do. Talk shit, get hit.

#30 Edited by gosukiller (2324 posts) -
@OneManX said:

" I guess you can say.... Justin got taken... for a ride
*puts on shades*



"

You deserve this one.
#31 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

I can completely understnad why they did this. Its basically throwing a match. O and noel Brown beat up smooth viper.

#32 Posted by GlenTennis (3145 posts) -
@Slaker117 said:
" As someone who just recently started to pay attention to the fighting game community, what exactly is going on? Justin (I get who that is, top player dude) gets penalized because he didn't play well? Am I understanding that right? Shouldn't not playing well be it's own punishment?Also, why did that Noel Brown guy start attacking that other guy? That's not actually related though, right? Kaos is just being disruptive as always. "
So the tl;dr is this:
There is a series of tournaments leading up to EVO (the biggest of them all). In these tournaments if you win, you win EVO points, which basically mean you get to skip the first few rounds and don't have to play some of the random crowd, basically rewarding them for being constant participants rather than just coming out for EVO. Justin already has a billion EVO points for doing well in the past few tournies, so he lost so that his friend (Noel Brown) could win some of those EVO points.
#33 Posted by wickedsc3 (1046 posts) -
Seems like a clear case of him throwing the match for his friend.  He deserved to get a yellow.
#34 Posted by Slaker117 (4842 posts) -
@GlenTennis: Thanks, that makes much more sense.
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#35 Posted by MikkaQ (10288 posts) -

Oh, man did Walter Day issue the card in his arcade game referee's outfit? I really hope so.




#36 Posted by mnzy (2914 posts) -

I remember him entering tournaments with Dan. And winning them. I don't know, seems a little shady. If they are sure about it just by watching the dropped combos and stuff, then ok, but just by characters - not ok.
Also, he is training hard for that MK tournament, so he probably doesn't care that much about mvc3 atm.

#37 Posted by Getz (3004 posts) -

Man, that article was sloppy as hell. I guess when you devote your life to fighting games you can't be arsed to proof-read.

#38 Posted by StarvingGamer (8227 posts) -
@mnzy Yeah the key difference with picking Dan is he actually knew how to use the character and had some good setups and combos in his pocket. He was definitely playing to win.

VS. Noel he picked characters he obviously had no idea how to use then switched to his real team and magically forgot how to do BnBs and block.
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#39 Posted by ThePhantomnaut (6197 posts) -

Justin trying to be Kuroda but fails.

#40 Posted by JJOR64 (18989 posts) -

Thought I would share this in this thread since it pertains to JWong.


Competitive gaming show Live on Three, after a three-month hiatus, will be making a return beginning at 7PM EST tonight with Marcus "djWHEAT" Graham and Scott "SirScoots" Smith of Evil Geniuses. The show will be under a new banner this go-around, with the show now airing on OneMoreGame.tv, a new weekly broadcast network from the minds of djWHEAT and SirScoots.

Tonight's show will kick off with discussion on the game of the moment, Mortal Kombat. The guys will have special guests Tom Brady and the one and only MarkMan on to discuss whether or not Mortal Kombat has the capability of securing a long-term spot in the competitive fighting gaming scene.

Additionally, Justin Wong and EG team manager SirScoots will address the "controversy" that arose from the recent PowerUp tourney. If you're curious to hear more about what happened, be sure to tune in at 7PM EST on http://www.justin.tv/OneMoreGameTV.

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#41 Posted by demontium (4709 posts) -

It was an tournament independent of EVO (even though its in association with EVO)vand therefore should not have severed Wong from his placement points. And who's to say Wong isn't allowed to forfeit his position?

#42 Posted by RuisuX (42 posts) -

The point is, they were playing for higher placement in the EVO bracket. Speculation is that Justin knew he he was in a high enough spot (points awarded from previous tournaments) to skip a bunch of randoms so he was planning to throw the match for Noel Brown to also get more points.
#43 Posted by BBQBram (2236 posts) -
@OneManX said:
" I guess you can say.... Justin got taken... for a ride

*puts on shades*



"
And for this, my good man, I applaud you.
#44 Posted by Hailinel (24709 posts) -
@demontium said:
" It was an tournament independent of EVO (even though its in association with EVO)vand therefore should not have severed Wong from his placement points. And who's to say Wong isn't allowed to forfeit his position? "
It's no different than in athletics.  If Justin were, say, an Olympic sprinter, and he decided to throw a match so that his buddy racing against him could win, that could lead to serious repercussions from the sport's governing body.  If you're not in a competition to compete seriously, you're just taking up space.

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