GOTY 2010: no mention of Overload DLC?

#1 Posted by RainVillain (480 posts) -

So iirc Giant Bomb gave Lair of the Shadow Broker the award for best DLC, with Minerva's Den and Undead Nightmare in 2nd and third place.

On last week's episode of the podcast they seem to all be in agreement that Overload was as good, if not better than Lair of the Shadow Broker. Wtf? Overload was totally thrown to the side during those old deliberations. Am I missing something?

#2 Posted by Winternet (8006 posts) -

@RainVillain: Wait, didn't they gave the award to Minerva's Den? I'm pretty sure Brad defended his choice as a motherfucker and got Minerva's Den the award.

About Overlord, they did discuss it and I remember only Jeff making the argument of Overlord over Shadow Broker.

#3 Posted by James_Giant_Peach (751 posts) -

I personally preferred Overlord and rate it as one of the top pieces of dlc in recent years for the story alone. It's funny how their opinions have changed over time I guess.

#4 Posted by RainVillain (480 posts) -

@Winternet: you're right about Minerva. It's been a while. And I'm glad to hear Jeff was backing it up. Makes his position on Overlord in 2012 totally understandable now. Thanks for the clarification.

I could just be reading into things but I feel like Jeff's sway on the opinion of the other Giant Bomb staff is very strong. You'd think Ryan or Brad would have defended Shadow Broker a little more last week. Oh well.

Its rare that the rest of the crew disagrees with Jeff unless they do so jokingly (Trackmania, Terraria) to the point where I can already imagine everyone on the bombcast next week to reciprocate Jeff's feelings about ME3. Would love to be proven wrong but it just seems like there's a mild circle jerk-esque quality to Giant Bomb debates.

Whenever someone openly disagrees with Jeff its a lot more fun/engaging/thoughtful commentary. I remember Ryan and Jeff bickering about the multiplayer in Splinter Cell Conviction. It stood out to me because it seems so rare for them to really debate games.

Or I could be wrong? I just feel like outside of GOTY podcasts everyone agrees a bit too much..

#5 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4676 posts) -

@RainVillain: Maybe they just don't see the point in a argument. They know that they all like some different things.

#6 Posted by Winternet (8006 posts) -

@RainVillain: Well, they didn't really discuss it. Pat mentioned he played Overlord and Jeff said that he thinks it's better than Shadow Broker.

Regarding them agreeing most of the times, you have to remember that they have been together for a decade now. It's understandable that they have influenced each other over the years and their likes and dislikes tend to a common ground. But, each have their own games that the others don't play or understand how the other is into it and some games do cause that disagreement (Flower comes to mind)

#7 Posted by RainVillain (480 posts) -

@Winternet: You're right, Flower was a good example.

#8 Posted by sixpin (1286 posts) -

What I don't get is how they think Overlord was better than Shadow Broker. Overlord was some vehicle sequences with bad checkpionts, while Shadow Broker was more of what was good about ME as a series - conversations and shooting. I also don't get what Patrick was talking about when he said the choice at the end of Overlord was a hard one. It took me no time at all to choose, but maybe I'm too much of a paragon to feel tempted to make the jerk choice. Oh well, opinions.

#9 Posted by Turambar (6677 posts) -
During the GOTY discussion, Jeff didn't play Shadow Broker yet, and later said if he did, he would have dug his heals in for Overlord much harder.
 
@sixpin said:

What I don't get is how they think Overlord was better than Shadow Broker. Overlord was some vehicle sequences with bad checkpionts, while Shadow Broker was more of what was good about ME as a series - conversations and shooting. I also don't get what Patrick was talking about when he said the choice at the end of Overlord was a hard one. It took me no time at all to choose, but maybe I'm too much of a paragon to feel tempted to make the jerk choice. Oh well, opinions.

Brad certainly didn't.  And I think for Patrick, he's just basing much of his preference off the final sequence.  Story wise, Overlord was just a one off side story with little impact on the universe while Shadow Broker was very integral to the plot, so my vote goes to the latter as well.

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