Guide: How to survive the suicide mission & save everyone?

Posted by Spacetrucking (941 posts) -

Here is a breakdown on how to save everyone through the ending of Mass Effect 2 and get the No One Left Behind achievement or trophy. Apart from the ubiquitous revelation that you're walking into a suicide mission, there are no other spoilers here.

Most importantly:

  • Loyalty: Get max loyalty with everyone to guarantee their survival. You'll be using a majority of your team in someway or another. It's imperative that you do this because normal/non-loyal team members are bad choices for any kind of mission (especially escort or your own team). Some people have reported success with non-loyal members on lower difficulties but it's very much a hit-and-miss kind of thing. Get your conversation hat on and get them loyal.
  • Ship Upgrades: Get the following ship upgrades: Armor (Jacob), Shields (Tali) & Thanix Cannon (Garrus)
  • Pick the right team: You have to choose the right people for every job. The selection is usually very limited and the following table can help you figure out who goes where.

The following factors also come into play:

  • Weapon & Research Upgrades: Not a priority but it helps to research character specific upgrades like Jack's L5 Implants since it makes them more viable for their respective roles.
  • Alignment: Your Paragon/Renegade alignment don't make a direct impact on who gets to live but they are essential in gaining your teammates' trust. Some dialogue options are only available at 75% or higher. If you lose the trust of a team member, you need 100% alignment to win them back.
  • Specialists: Assign specialists for each job, hybrids don't cut it. The requirements for each sub-mission will be made fairly obvious to you by the game itself. Pay close attention to the dialogue options and choose carefully as to who does what. Refer to the following table if you need directions.
  • Mission Dependencies: Often the success of one squad member will effect the life of another - all the sub-missions are connected somehow. Look at all your choices if you think a team member is dying in spite of being the right person for the job.

If you satisfy the above conditions, Shepard will survive. In addition, if you want everyone else in your team to make it through (for the achievement), these following approaches are known to work:

Combination

Vents

1st (Fire) Squad Leader

Shield

2nd (Fire) Squad Leader

Escort

Final Team

Notes (assume all loyal unless mentioned)
Recommended ChoicesLegion/Tali/KasumiGarrus/Miranda/JacobSamara or Jack w/ implantsGarrus/Miranda/JacobAnyone will do but Mordin is the ideal choice.Any 2 from the following: Jack, Tali, Kasumi, Miranda, Thane, SamaraPick only loyal members for any of these roles
#1/KilljoiTaliMirandaJackMirandaJacobMiranda+GruntInsanity.
#2/Ham08LegionGarrusJackMirandaGruntMiranda+Mordin
#3/HilikusLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusJacobThane+Garrus
#4/KilljoiLegionJacobSamaraJacobLegionGarrus+ThaneHardcore
#5/Chaser324TaliGarrusSamaraGarrusJacobMordin+Garrus
#6/NelanderLegionGarrusJackMirandaJacobMiranda+Samara
#7/NoXiousLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinLegion+GarrusMordin died when Grunt was escort
#8/ShiftyMagicianTaliGarrusSamaraMirandaGarrusTali+Mordin
#9/NovyxLegionGarrusSamaraJacobZaeedTali+Jack
#10/9mmLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinLegion+GarrusInsanity
#11/LukeLegionGarrusSamaraJacobGruntMiranda+Mordin
#12/SarumarineLegionJacobSamaraMirandaZaeedMordin+Jack
#13/MrDorkinsTaliGarrusSamaraGarrusThane-Jack was not loyal
#14/ImperiousRixLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinThane+TaliZaeed was not loyal
#15/RenahzorLegionMirandaSamaraMirandaGarrusTali+JacobFull Paragon
#16/Joeyoe31TaliMirandaSamaraGarrusGruntTali+LegionFull Renegade
#17/MelaMedLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaJacobTali+Mordin
#18/Spiritwolf99LegionGarrusJackGarrusThaneTali+Grunt
#19/LaurenLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusGruntThane+GarrusFull Paragon on Veteran
#20/AndorskiLegionJacobSamaraMirandaGarrusTali+Jack
#21/TeranTaliGarrusJackGarrusJacobLegion+ZaeedInfiltrator, Full Renegade on Insantiy.
#22/AntonShpakLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinLegion+GarrusJack - not loyal, Insanity
#23/CloneTrooperTaliGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinLegion+GarrusMiranda - not loyal
#24/thecobraLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinTali+JacobJack - not loyal.
#25/GaarLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinTali+SamaraMiranda - not loyal
#26/vpcwiuTaliGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinMiranda+GruntJack - not loyal

FAQs/More Strategies

  • Dealing with non-loyal team members - Miranda/Jack situation - If Miranda or Jack (or any other character) are not loyal, they have a tendency to die during the final cutscene, even if you don't use them. Here is a possible solution that works on Normal difficulty - pick a weak final team and send a weak loyal character on escort. Recommended characters to take with you are: Tali, Samara, Thane, Kasumi, Miranda or Jack (who ever is loyal). Send someone like Mordin on escort as well. The aim is to leave behind a physically strong ground squad (characters like Garrus, Legion, Grunt, Zaeed). The reason is the game tallies up some kind of hidden score and your ground team's chances of survival increase if you leave behind more number of tough fighters. Just as an example, on my Insanity playthrough, I used Garrus+Grunt for the final battle and Mordin ended up dead. To fix this, I used Miranda+Grunt instead and everyone survived.
  • Dealing with non-loyal team members (the lazy way) - You can always turn down the difficulty to Casual and not use the disloyal member at all.
  • Random death of loyal team members - There are certain combinations where a loyal team member dies during the final cutscene for no apparent reason. I found that changing your final team can help solve this. Like the above case, a good general strategy would be to take a weaker team with you to the final battle; just make sure they are all loyal. For the rear guard, leave behind strong, combat focused characters that can hold their own in a firefight. Characters that work well for this are Grunt, Thane, Zaeed and Legion. Characters that have a tendency to die in this scenario are Mordin, Tali, Kasumi and Miranda.
  • Trouble in vents ? - If your tech specialist is taking one in the head in spite of all the upgrades & max loyalty, try changing your 1st squad leader to Garrus/Miranda.
  • Picking an escort - As long as the rest of the squads do their job perfectly, the escort choice is almost inconsequential. Just make sure he/she is loyal and they will all survive. It's a good place to send your wimpy characters to.
  • Escort dying ? - In the odd case that the escort dies, try switching your 2nd (Fire) Squad Leader to a loyal Garrus or Miranda.
  • Mordin - Quite a few people are having trouble with Mordin dying for no apparent reason, even with max loyalty and all. Try using him as an escort or even part of your final team to fix this problem.
  • Saving the Normandy Crew (NPCs) - This depends entirely on how quickly you decide to use the Omega 4 relay. If you want to save everyone, use it as soon as it is available. The relay opens exactly one mission after the IFF and its recommended you use that time for Legion's loyalty mission. Any time wasted on side missions or other loyalty quests at this point will result in loss of lives. Your final team makeup will have no effect on who survives. The NPCs don't matter for the achievement.

Flow chart

The guys at Game Informer produced this flow chart back in June which presents the above information in a nifty format. You can view the hi-res version here (just hit the zoom in button at the center) or download it from the original GI article here.

If all else fails...

Game Informer Guide

Turn down the difficulty setting from the Options > Gameplay menu. Team members with Normal loyalty have a higher chance of dying on the harder difficulty settings. If you just want the achievement or maybe want a perfect save game for ME3, just swallow your pride and turn it down to Casual. It might save everyone's hide.

Thanks to the GB community for all the feedback. If you finished the game, please do tell what worked (or DIDN'T work) for you and I'll add your strategy to the list.

#1 Edited by Spacetrucking (941 posts) -

Here is a breakdown on how to save everyone through the ending of Mass Effect 2 and get the No One Left Behind achievement or trophy. Apart from the ubiquitous revelation that you're walking into a suicide mission, there are no other spoilers here.

Most importantly:

  • Loyalty: Get max loyalty with everyone to guarantee their survival. You'll be using a majority of your team in someway or another. It's imperative that you do this because normal/non-loyal team members are bad choices for any kind of mission (especially escort or your own team). Some people have reported success with non-loyal members on lower difficulties but it's very much a hit-and-miss kind of thing. Get your conversation hat on and get them loyal.
  • Ship Upgrades: Get the following ship upgrades: Armor (Jacob), Shields (Tali) & Thanix Cannon (Garrus)
  • Pick the right team: You have to choose the right people for every job. The selection is usually very limited and the following table can help you figure out who goes where.

The following factors also come into play:

  • Weapon & Research Upgrades: Not a priority but it helps to research character specific upgrades like Jack's L5 Implants since it makes them more viable for their respective roles.
  • Alignment: Your Paragon/Renegade alignment don't make a direct impact on who gets to live but they are essential in gaining your teammates' trust. Some dialogue options are only available at 75% or higher. If you lose the trust of a team member, you need 100% alignment to win them back.
  • Specialists: Assign specialists for each job, hybrids don't cut it. The requirements for each sub-mission will be made fairly obvious to you by the game itself. Pay close attention to the dialogue options and choose carefully as to who does what. Refer to the following table if you need directions.
  • Mission Dependencies: Often the success of one squad member will effect the life of another - all the sub-missions are connected somehow. Look at all your choices if you think a team member is dying in spite of being the right person for the job.

If you satisfy the above conditions, Shepard will survive. In addition, if you want everyone else in your team to make it through (for the achievement), these following approaches are known to work:

Combination

Vents

1st (Fire) Squad Leader

Shield

2nd (Fire) Squad Leader

Escort

Final Team

Notes (assume all loyal unless mentioned)
Recommended ChoicesLegion/Tali/KasumiGarrus/Miranda/JacobSamara or Jack w/ implantsGarrus/Miranda/JacobAnyone will do but Mordin is the ideal choice.Any 2 from the following: Jack, Tali, Kasumi, Miranda, Thane, SamaraPick only loyal members for any of these roles
#1/KilljoiTaliMirandaJackMirandaJacobMiranda+GruntInsanity.
#2/Ham08LegionGarrusJackMirandaGruntMiranda+Mordin
#3/HilikusLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusJacobThane+Garrus
#4/KilljoiLegionJacobSamaraJacobLegionGarrus+ThaneHardcore
#5/Chaser324TaliGarrusSamaraGarrusJacobMordin+Garrus
#6/NelanderLegionGarrusJackMirandaJacobMiranda+Samara
#7/NoXiousLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinLegion+GarrusMordin died when Grunt was escort
#8/ShiftyMagicianTaliGarrusSamaraMirandaGarrusTali+Mordin
#9/NovyxLegionGarrusSamaraJacobZaeedTali+Jack
#10/9mmLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinLegion+GarrusInsanity
#11/LukeLegionGarrusSamaraJacobGruntMiranda+Mordin
#12/SarumarineLegionJacobSamaraMirandaZaeedMordin+Jack
#13/MrDorkinsTaliGarrusSamaraGarrusThane-Jack was not loyal
#14/ImperiousRixLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinThane+TaliZaeed was not loyal
#15/RenahzorLegionMirandaSamaraMirandaGarrusTali+JacobFull Paragon
#16/Joeyoe31TaliMirandaSamaraGarrusGruntTali+LegionFull Renegade
#17/MelaMedLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaJacobTali+Mordin
#18/Spiritwolf99LegionGarrusJackGarrusThaneTali+Grunt
#19/LaurenLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusGruntThane+GarrusFull Paragon on Veteran
#20/AndorskiLegionJacobSamaraMirandaGarrusTali+Jack
#21/TeranTaliGarrusJackGarrusJacobLegion+ZaeedInfiltrator, Full Renegade on Insantiy.
#22/AntonShpakLegionGarrusSamaraMirandaMordinLegion+GarrusJack - not loyal, Insanity
#23/CloneTrooperTaliGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinLegion+GarrusMiranda - not loyal
#24/thecobraLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinTali+JacobJack - not loyal.
#25/GaarLegionGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinTali+SamaraMiranda - not loyal
#26/vpcwiuTaliGarrusSamaraGarrusMordinMiranda+GruntJack - not loyal

FAQs/More Strategies

  • Dealing with non-loyal team members - Miranda/Jack situation - If Miranda or Jack (or any other character) are not loyal, they have a tendency to die during the final cutscene, even if you don't use them. Here is a possible solution that works on Normal difficulty - pick a weak final team and send a weak loyal character on escort. Recommended characters to take with you are: Tali, Samara, Thane, Kasumi, Miranda or Jack (who ever is loyal). Send someone like Mordin on escort as well. The aim is to leave behind a physically strong ground squad (characters like Garrus, Legion, Grunt, Zaeed). The reason is the game tallies up some kind of hidden score and your ground team's chances of survival increase if you leave behind more number of tough fighters. Just as an example, on my Insanity playthrough, I used Garrus+Grunt for the final battle and Mordin ended up dead. To fix this, I used Miranda+Grunt instead and everyone survived.
  • Dealing with non-loyal team members (the lazy way) - You can always turn down the difficulty to Casual and not use the disloyal member at all.
  • Random death of loyal team members - There are certain combinations where a loyal team member dies during the final cutscene for no apparent reason. I found that changing your final team can help solve this. Like the above case, a good general strategy would be to take a weaker team with you to the final battle; just make sure they are all loyal. For the rear guard, leave behind strong, combat focused characters that can hold their own in a firefight. Characters that work well for this are Grunt, Thane, Zaeed and Legion. Characters that have a tendency to die in this scenario are Mordin, Tali, Kasumi and Miranda.
  • Trouble in vents ? - If your tech specialist is taking one in the head in spite of all the upgrades & max loyalty, try changing your 1st squad leader to Garrus/Miranda.
  • Picking an escort - As long as the rest of the squads do their job perfectly, the escort choice is almost inconsequential. Just make sure he/she is loyal and they will all survive. It's a good place to send your wimpy characters to.
  • Escort dying ? - In the odd case that the escort dies, try switching your 2nd (Fire) Squad Leader to a loyal Garrus or Miranda.
  • Mordin - Quite a few people are having trouble with Mordin dying for no apparent reason, even with max loyalty and all. Try using him as an escort or even part of your final team to fix this problem.
  • Saving the Normandy Crew (NPCs) - This depends entirely on how quickly you decide to use the Omega 4 relay. If you want to save everyone, use it as soon as it is available. The relay opens exactly one mission after the IFF and its recommended you use that time for Legion's loyalty mission. Any time wasted on side missions or other loyalty quests at this point will result in loss of lives. Your final team makeup will have no effect on who survives. The NPCs don't matter for the achievement.

Flow chart

The guys at Game Informer produced this flow chart back in June which presents the above information in a nifty format. You can view the hi-res version here (just hit the zoom in button at the center) or download it from the original GI article here.

If all else fails...

Game Informer Guide

Turn down the difficulty setting from the Options > Gameplay menu. Team members with Normal loyalty have a higher chance of dying on the harder difficulty settings. If you just want the achievement or maybe want a perfect save game for ME3, just swallow your pride and turn it down to Casual. It might save everyone's hide.

Thanks to the GB community for all the feedback. If you finished the game, please do tell what worked (or DIDN'T work) for you and I'll add your strategy to the list.

#2 Posted by gewfienewfie (79 posts) -

I took a slightly different approach to competing the suicide mission and came out on top with everyone alive, including myself. Had Jack do the shield and Legion do both the vents and escort. Phenomenal experience. I'm pretty satisfied with ending I achieved in just over 30 hours.

#3 Edited by thehexeditor (1404 posts) -
#4 Posted by Spacetrucking (941 posts) -
@gewfienewfie:  Who did you use as the squad leaders ? I'll add your combo to the list
#5 Edited by gewfienewfie (79 posts) -
@Killjoi:  Garrus first,  then Miranda. I'm surprised that those are basically the only options when at that moment, I was strongly considering letting Grunt lead for laughs. Good thing I reconsidered.
#6 Posted by gewfienewfie (79 posts) -
@Killjoi: Just to correct your fifth approach. I had Jack (Subject Zero, the crazy biotic bitch) not Jacob do the shield. Sorry to be nit-picky.
#7 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

I am totally going to follow this list Thanks!

#8 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

I am just wondering, how apparent will these options be? Will their just be a conversation and one will say we need someone for shields and you choose?

#9 Edited by Cornman89 (1579 posts) -

Thanks, good info (the "equip everyone and everything" part was obvious enough, but the team leader stuff is a surprise). But I'm just gonna go in blind and live with the consequences. Seems like it'd be more fun that way.

#10 Posted by MildMolasses (3213 posts) -

None of you are interested in just playing the game and seeing how things turn out? When I get to it, if everyone lives I'll be happy. If a bunch of them die, then I'll live with that
 
#11 Edited by Red (5994 posts) -

So you're saying that I'm going to have to talk to Samara and Subject Zero to get the best ending?  
 
Well, screw dat, yo. 
 
Although, if Samara and Jack did end up dieing, I'd probably call that a pretty fantastic ending, so I won't complain.

#12 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -
@MildMolasses: Im interested in getting the best possible, paragon outcome for this game. This may be considered cheating but I'm just devoted to having my character survive with everyone else.
#13 Posted by CenturionCajun (1461 posts) -

Ahh, so Legion will be a member of your party. Outstanding.

#14 Posted by gewfienewfie (79 posts) -
@Dany: when the time comes during the final mission, the options will present themselves when the time comes. If you use your head and gauge which characters will perform the best in the given situation (like i did ;P) you'll ALL come out alive and be ready to rock for Mass Effect 3!
#15 Edited by myslead (923 posts) -

I did
Doors : Legion
Squad Leader #1 : Miranda
Squad Leader #2 : Miranda
Shields : Samara
Escort : Grunt
 
and nobody died... I didn't even know people would die if I would pick wrong choices lol, good thing I picked right.

#16 Posted by Evilsbane (4531 posts) -
@Killjoi: Thanks for the spoiler free info very helpful!
#17 Edited by captainduncan (28 posts) -

 I used Grunt and Garrus; those two and Shepard survived. I had Jacob do the Vents; he got pwned. First squad leader was Thane, who died too. Used Samara for the biotic shield and Legion for escort- both of them lived. Second squad leader was Jack. I pissed her off (big surprise) and didn't have enought Paragon/Renegade to regain her loyalty. Out of spite I used her as cannon fodder but it didn't occurred to me that it would affect everyone else. I lost Jack and subsequently Mordin :( 

#18 Edited by CSXLoser (582 posts) -

I believe it is based on loyalty because the people that were not loyal to me...died on me 
 
 
EDIT : forgot to mention...I chose Legion for the first job and then Garrus for the squad leader (both) and samara for the shield 

#19 Posted by HistoryInRust (6274 posts) -

I didn't read the whole post, because I want to roll without any sort of guidelines first. That said, I'm flabbergasted that you can keep everyone alive.

#20 Posted by JohnKiller118 (62 posts) -

Thank you so much. I'll make sure I follow everything.

#21 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -

Thanks!  I'll definitely refer to this when I get my copy of the game :)

#22 Posted by gosukiller (2324 posts) -

Would like to correct you on the "All ship upgrades" thing. The medical bay upgrade is NOT required.

#23 Posted by Spacetrucking (941 posts) -
@gosukiller:  Thanks. I'll make the correction right away.
#24 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

How do I get all the materials without going into the console and manually punching in the code for it.  >.>
 
I'm not scaning all these planets and whatnot, please tell me there is an easier way.

#25 Posted by gosukiller (2324 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" How do I get all the materials without going into the console and manually punching in the code for it.  >.>  I'm not scaning all these planets and whatnot, please tell me there is an easier way. "
You answered your own question, scanning planets. I didn't find it boring at all, just as long as I exclusively mine Rich planets. The loot that you find on-ground won't get you enough.
#26 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@gosukiller said:
" @KaosAngel said:
" How do I get all the materials without going into the console and manually punching in the code for it.  >.>  I'm not scaning all these planets and whatnot, please tell me there is an easier way. "
You answered your own question, scanning planets. I didn't find it boring at all, just as long as I exclusively mine Rich planets. The loot that you find on-ground won't get you enough. "
I don't have time for that.  Console commands it is.  >.>  Is that bad?
#27 Posted by RedSox8933 (2428 posts) -

I chose Jack's side in that fight between her and Miranda, how do I get Miranda's loyalty back?

#28 Posted by Juvarial (305 posts) -
@RedSox8933: Well I picked Miranda because Jack needs to chill the hell out and stop trying to start mass effect fields in the middle of my ship. Anyways I lost jacks loyalty - Would like to know how to rectify either : / 
Sucks not having the sexy circle under there Squad Select pic ; D
#29 Posted by gosukiller (2324 posts) -
@Juvarial said:
" @RedSox8933: Well I picked Miranda because Jack needs to chill the hell out and stop trying to start mass effect fields in the middle of my ship. Anyways I lost jacks loyalty - Would like to know how to rectify either : / Sucks not having the sexy circle under there Squad Select pic ; D "
Didn't you get any Paragorn/Renegade options in those conflicts? It's the only way to resolve it without losing anyones loyalty.
#30 Posted by zungerman090 (311 posts) -

Thanks. Just finished the game. Jack keeps saying "Fuck off" every time I talk to her though. That happened to anyone?

#31 Posted by LeBart (302 posts) -

I sent Tali to escort the survivors, everyone survived. 
Legion in the vent, Miranda leader of both teams, Tali for the escort and Samara shielding,

#32 Posted by RedSox8933 (2428 posts) -
@gosukiller: No those were greyed out. And now when I try to talk to Miranda there is a renegade and a paragon option but they are also both greyed out.
#33 Posted by Capum15 (4810 posts) -
@RedSox8933 said:
" @gosukiller: No those were greyed out. And now when I try to talk to Miranda there is a renegade and a paragon option but they are also both greyed out. "
Get them (Paragon, Renegade) higher. Haven't played yet though, is the Karma system still similar (ie, two meters and two different "skill trees" for Charm/Indim?).
#34 Posted by gosukiller (2324 posts) -
@Capum15 said:
" @RedSox8933 said:
" @gosukiller: No those were greyed out. And now when I try to talk to Miranda there is a renegade and a paragon option but they are also both greyed out. "
Get them (Paragon, Renegade) higher. Haven't played yet though, is the Karma system still similar (ie, two meters and two different "skill trees" for Charm/Indim?). "
Charm and intimidate skills have been removed. You no longer require skillpoints to make paragon/renegade decisions, only a paragon/renegade rating.
#35 Edited by Capum15 (4810 posts) -
@gosukiller: Oh thank god. I started my third run (second New Game +) just to get 12/12 C/I for my character I want to transfer (as to not waste points for other skills)...
 
In retrospect, a bad idea, since I'm getting ME2 later today, and in no way can finish that run before the urge to play ME2 takes over. I eventually will, just so that I'll have a 60 with every side quest done to transfer over which will probably end up being my "main" character.
 
I think I still have a 40-something with every sidequest done, but Charm and Intimidate really low. It was my first run with my current character, so hopefully I can transfer the lower level Shepard. Ever since I got really interested in ME again (roughly around the beginning of December), I've had this perfectionist feeling for it...I know I don't need to complete the 60, but I want to.
#36 Posted by flamingBurrito (25 posts) -

First time I just followed my gut and lost 4 guys =\
I did it the second time around for the achievement and everyone lived :D

#37 Posted by Demyx (3237 posts) -

For me, Jack, Mordin, Grunt, Jacob, all died.
Next playthrough, I'll just try to make better decisions, but I will have to deal with who lives and who dies. And this is the file that I will carry over.

#38 Posted by TheShadowLord024 (1 posts) -

Whatever you do, dont Go with moradin in the vents or Jack as second squad leader, I did and lost em both as a result,
#39 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -

You don't need to buy all the ship upgrades to have your squad survive. You only need three which are the hull and shield upgrade and then the Thanix Cannon.

#40 Posted by Lolo (40 posts) -

When Jack/Miranda or Tali/Legion fight, you must have 80% of all Paragon or Renegade points to keep their trust.  If you lose the trust of a member, you must have 100% of the total points to earn it back.

#41 Posted by shadowfox7 (5 posts) -

so i did everything right and everyone lived up to the point were i had to fight the boss. After words when i had to leave to the normady only fucking Mordin died for no reason. WTF i have no idea what i did wrong
#42 Posted by TheKidNixon (1564 posts) -
@Demyx said:
" For me, Jack, Mordin, Grunt, Jacob, all died. Next playthrough, I'll just try to make better decisions, but I will have to deal with who lives and who dies. And this is the file that I will carry over. "
My first play through, I lost:
 
-Tali, who got through the vent, but once on the other side was trying to help me get the door closed and took a bullet to the head for it. Loyal
-Jack, who was in my group on the second leg of the mission. Loyal.
-Grunt, leading the second squad (AWESOME death speech by the way). Loyal.
- Zaeed as escort. Normal.
-Miranda attempting to hold them off. Normal, and the only person who died in that group.
 
So Garrus and Thane (who were both loyal and with me in the last leg) with Mordin, Legion, Samara and Jacob (the members of my delay team) all survived.
#43 Posted by Juvarial (305 posts) -
@gosukiller: Imported my paragon, played paragon - Still wouldent give me the option to chill them out : / 
Second playthrough started though-Ill see how it goes this time with a new character 
#44 Posted by Demyx (3237 posts) -
@shadowfox7 said:
" so i did everything right and everyone lived up to the point were i had to fight the boss. After words when i had to leave to the normady only fucking Mordin died for no reason. WTF i have no idea what i did wrong "
Did you do his loyalty quest? No one I had died on the final boss, but they were also loyal to me so that might've had an impact.
#45 Posted by Spacetrucking (941 posts) -
@Afroman269:  Thanks, I'll change the OP. That will save people some time.
#46 Posted by shadowfox7 (5 posts) -

yeah everyone was loyal i have no idea why that fucker Mordin died

#47 Posted by CitizenKane (10502 posts) -

All I want is for Miranda to survive.  She's all that matters to me.

#48 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -
@shadowfox7 said:
" yeah everyone was loyal i have no idea why that fucker Mordin died "
Same thing happened to me. All you need to do is redo the mission and assign jobs according to the chart and you should be fine.
 
@CitizenKane said:
" All I want is for Miranda to survive.  She's all that matters to me. "

I know how you feel. I made sure she was in my party and right next to me to make sure that her ass (a fine one too) will be coming home.
#49 Posted by CitizenKane (10502 posts) -
@Afroman269: So as long as she is in your three man crew, she lives?
#50 Posted by Spacetrucking (941 posts) -
@CitizenKane: Yes
 
@shadowfox7: What was Mordin's assignment ? Maybe you did everything right except give him a job he can't do. 
 
@Lolo: Thanks, I wasn't sure of the alignment requirements. I played a space boy scout so it was hard to gauge the minimum requirements :) 
 
@LeBart:  I haven't seen anyone else use Tali as an escort. Good to know it works :)

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