I need a way to kill off Jack...

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#1 Posted by Mikemcn (7005 posts) -

Im doing an evil Female shep playthrough, and I want to do something I couldnt do on my first playthrough, kill off jack. Shes annoying and whiney and mostly just a psychopath, so now I need to ensure that in Mass Effect 3 she won't make any appearances.

Rather than go through complex guides (Very few of which go over how to kill someone in particular), I'd like to know how I could go about removing her from my team. Did anyone lose her?

#2 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4865 posts) -
@Mikemcn said:

Im doing an evil Female shep playthrough, and I want to do something I couldnt do on my first playthrough, kill off jack. Shes annoying and whiney and mostly just a psychopath, so now I need to ensure that in Mass Effect 3 she won't make any appearances.

Rather than go through complex guides (Very few of which go over how to kill someone in particular), I'd like to know how I could go about removing her from my team. Did anyone lose her?

There are many words to describe Jack, but whiny isn't one of them.  
 
Also why bother killing her off? It's not written in stone that she has no meaningful impact in ME3.
#3 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11432 posts) -

Well, it's hard to kill off someone specific. Not doing her loyalty mission is a good start.

#4 Edited by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -

Didn't we have one of these weird "this girl must die" topics a while back? Oh wait that was Samara.

Besides, i'm sure you can easily kill her off by sending her through the vent or escorting the crew.

#5 Posted by BraveToaster (12588 posts) -

She was the only teammate to die for me. I didn't do her Loyalty Mission and I chose her to escort a few people back to the ship.

#6 Posted by JJWeatherman (14562 posts) -

Assign her to be the second squad leader during the final mission. I did that to Samara and she ended up dying. GL.

#7 Edited by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

Oh, the irony..
 I loved her and tried my best to please her and keep her around, but somehow she was the FIRST to die during the major attack on the normandy cutscene before the suicide mission..
 
But then again, i had Legion and Garrus and Mordin and Thane die though i liked them, and had Miranda and Jacob and that crazy old witch lady stick around though i threw their bags out to the sidewalk repeatedly as a hint of my intentions...
 
Yep, an ME2 expert right here.

#8 Posted by Aronman789 (2694 posts) -

Dude, Jack is awesome. 

#9 Posted by Beforet (2931 posts) -

Can you send her into the vents at the beginning of the suicide mission? If so then that's a good way, just botch it.

#10 Posted by George_Hukas (1317 posts) -

Stop taking her out on missions, maybe she'll get the idea

#11 Posted by Chris2KLee (2337 posts) -

I lost her on my Hardcore run through. She died during the escape, don't know what squad I put her in. I think if you just avoid doing her loyalty mission and generally not use her in the game, she'll get killed. Also, choosing a job she is ill suited for like going into the security vents might guarantee her death.

#12 Posted by Natesaint (148 posts) -

Don't upgrade your ship armor, she'll be the first to die before the suicide mission even starts. I lost her that way on my first playthrough. Quick, simple, and effective.
#13 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

Nice, replacing one psychopath with Shepard psychopath, i like the way you think.  
Hm, this reminds me, for all the shit i give Mass Effect 2, i actually kind of want to play it.

#14 Posted by mnzy (2920 posts) -

Don't kill my loved one!

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#15 Posted by Make_Me_Mad (3109 posts) -

What a coincidence, I want to kill off Miranda so she won't have any impact on ME3.

#16 Posted by McBEEF (360 posts) -

you dont even need to take her with you do you?
 
Im pretty sure you can just leave her in prison and just go through the relay.

#17 Posted by SteamPunkJin (1286 posts) -

Jack will die if you don't upgrade the shields - but other people might die as well, but she is ALWAYS the first to bite it, as she's down in the cargo hold. As Grunt points out, it's a structurally weak area.

#18 Posted by Mikemcn (7005 posts) -

@MooseyMcMan said:

Well, it's hard to kill off someone specific. Not doing her loyalty mission is a good start.

DAMN IT! I knew that was a bad idea, I was a jerk to her during it, if that counts for anything.

@McBEEF said:

you dont even need to take her with you do you? Im pretty sure you can just leave her in prison and just go through the relay.

Im not that forward thinking.@TheDudeOfGaming said:

Nice, replacing one psychopath with Shepard psychopath, i like the way you think. Hm, this reminds me, for all the shit i give Mass Effect 2, i actually kind of want to play it.

Lady Shepard isn't crazy, I swear, shes only 65% evil.

@Aronman789 said:

Dude, Jack is awesome.

Shes the worst, shes fake as all hell, she was tortured when she was young so now she feels like she can get away with anything, shes just an ass.

@Axxol said:

She was the only teammate to die for me. I didn't do her Loyalty Mission and I chose her to escort a few people back to the ship.

Did that cause some of the other crew to die though? I think it does.

#19 Posted by BraveToaster (12588 posts) -
@Mikemcn said: 

@Axxol said:

She was the only teammate to die for me. I didn't do her Loyalty Mission and I chose her to escort a few people back to the ship.

Did that cause some of the other crew to die though? I think it does.

#20 Posted by Kyle (2324 posts) -

@Aronman789 said:

Dude, Jack is awesome.
#21 Posted by OmegaChosen (646 posts) -

Don't get the new armor. The Oculus lasers will get her.

#22 Posted by ProfessorEss (7467 posts) -

I couldn't be bothered with her.  
 
As far as I'm concerned she can do the same thing in ME3 that she did for me in ME2 - rot all alone in the belly of the Normandy.

#23 Edited by Mikemcn (7005 posts) -

yea so... in my quest to kill Jack. I lost Legion. I made Jack lead the 1st fireteam hoping she'd get snuffed, and Legion ended up getting killed because shes an idiot and can't keep her shit together. He died opening the doors for us, Jack killed him, she has to pay. Shes so evil she manipulated me into putting legion in harm's way. She has to be stopped.

DAMN YOU JACK!

Oh, and Tali died too. Now, im doing an insanity playthrough though, i'll try and ignore Jack completely if possible.

#24 Posted by Chop (1999 posts) -

D: 
 
Jack is the best Mass Effect character. 

#25 Posted by rmanthorp (4043 posts) -

@Chop said:

D: Jack is the best Mass Effect character.

She is up there. Haters gonna hate.

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#26 Posted by PeasForFees (2411 posts) -
@Mikemcn: Just shove her in the tube.
#27 Posted by Sauson (561 posts) -

My evil Shepard totally tapped that.

#28 Posted by laserbolts (5337 posts) -

I really liked her loyalty mission and I thought she was a great character. Mordin was the only one to die for me and he was the one I wanted to survive more than anyone. I tried it a few times but he keeps dying.

#29 Posted by Crash_Happy (737 posts) -

@Ahmad_Metallic: Oh man you did bad!

Killing someone specific should be easy enough, no loyalty mission and chuck them into danger in the last mission. How you avoid collateral damage though I'm not sure. If she escorts the crew back and dies do they all die too?

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#30 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

It's weird how that stuff works our, I failed talis loyalty missOn on purpose and she survived while I lost around 5 loyal people

#31 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -
@laserbolts
I really liked her loyalty mission and I thought she was a great character. Mordin was the only one to die for me and he was the one I wanted to survive more than anyone. I tried it a few times but he keeps dying.
Send him with the crew back to the ship,
#32 Edited by MikkaQ (10326 posts) -

@Mikemcn said:

Im doing an evil Female shep playthrough, and I want to do something I couldnt do on my first playthrough, kill off jack. Shes annoying and whiney and mostly just a psychopath, so now I need to ensure that in Mass Effect 3 she won't make any appearances.

Rather than go through complex guides (Very few of which go over how to kill someone in particular), I'd like to know how I could go about removing her from my team. Did anyone lose her?

Yeah dude I managed to lose her by starting to romance Miranda (Which doesn't have much to do with it but...), then later in the game when they fight and you can pick a side or just end the conflict with your paragon or renegade points, I picked Miranda.You lose Jack's loyalty.

Later on the suicide mission she died, kinda out of nowhere. Good riddance I say. I made a perfect runthough after, but am tempted to import the one where jack dies.

I think alternatively you could simply not do her loyalty mission.

#33 Posted by NTM (7516 posts) -

Not doing one of her loyalty missions, and not upgrading part of the ship might work, but not sure that'd be a good idea 'cause it may kill Legion and Thane as well. I'm not sure how to kill her off in the suicide mission other than assigning her to something she's weak at.

#34 Posted by Jazz2 (151 posts) -

She's not that bad i think :(

#35 Posted by laserbolts (5337 posts) -
@Dany
@laserbolts
I really liked her loyalty mission and I thought she was a great character. Mordin was the only one to die for me and he was the one I wanted to survive more than anyone. I tried it a few times but he keeps dying.
Send him with the crew back to the ship,
Will try this at some point this weekend thank you kindly.
#36 Posted by Mikemcn (7005 posts) -

@NTM said:

Not doing one of her loyalty missions, and not upgrading part of the ship might work, but not sure that'd be a good idea 'cause it may kill Legion and Thane as well. I'm not sure how to kill her off in the suicide mission other than assigning her to something she's weak at.

I think Legion died because I ended his loyalty mission by killing all the geth. Tali died because I revealed who her father truly was in her loyalty mission. If you end their missions in a negative manner I think thats part of what decides how the suicide mission plays out.

#37 Edited by Dany (7887 posts) -

@Mikemcn: Well Tali survived for me and i failed her loyalty mission.

I think a sure fire way to get rid of jack is to choose a weak biotic to hold hte biotic barrier in the tunnels, like thane or miranda. Have jack in your squad along with someone who is loyal. At the end of that bit, someone has to die and most reasonably it should be the unloyal person.

@laserbolts said:

@Dany
@laserbolts
I really liked her loyalty mission and I thought she was a great character. Mordin was the only one to die for me and he was the one I wanted to survive more than anyone. I tried it a few times but he keeps dying.
Send him with the crew back to the ship,
Will try this at some point this weekend thank you kindly.

THe reason why that happens is that you don't have enough 'strong forces' to stop the collectors, like grunt, zaeed, garrus or miranda then the weakest person gets axed. FIrst mordin then tali

#38 Edited by Ninja (538 posts) -

Don't know who made this, hope it helps. Oh crap, resolutions is too low, just search for a table that shows you results for the suicde mission.

#39 Posted by SteamPunkJin (1286 posts) -
@Ninja said:

Don't know who made this, hope it helps. Oh crap, resolutions is too low, just search for a table that shows you results for the suicde mission.

Any chance you have a link to a readable version? I'm quite interested in viewing this chart.
#40 Posted by Ninja (538 posts) -
#41 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

@Ninja: Damn, that is amazing

#42 Posted by SuperSambo (2880 posts) -

I killed her off.

Felt gooood.

#43 Posted by Mikemcn (7005 posts) -

@SuperSambo said:

I killed her off.

Felt gooood.

It feels real bad to see her survive.

#44 Posted by SuperSambo (2880 posts) -

@SteamPunkJin said:

@Ninja said:

Don't know who made this, hope it helps. Oh crap, resolutions is too low, just search for a table that shows you results for the suicde mission.

Any chance you have a link to a readable version? I'm quite interested in viewing this chart.

Wait, Shepard can die?

I wonder how that will work out for ME3.

#45 Posted by Mikemcn (7005 posts) -

@SuperSambo said:

@SteamPunkJin said:

@Ninja said:

Don't know who made this, hope it helps. Oh crap, resolutions is too low, just search for a table that shows you results for the suicde mission.

Any chance you have a link to a readable version? I'm quite interested in viewing this chart.

Wait, Shepard can die?

I wonder how that will work out for ME3.

You can't import that save I dont think. Shepard dies, humanity dies. I might try that ending.

#46 Posted by TheHT (11661 posts) -
@PhatSeeJay said:

Didn't we have one of these weird "this girl must die" topics a while back? Oh wait that was Samara.

D:
 
Samara's the coolest female in ME2.
#47 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

@Mikemcn: You won't be given an opportunity to import that save. If you try then I'd assume it will spit back "Shepard is dead, can't import"

#48 Edited by SteamPunkJin (1286 posts) -
@Mikemcn said:

@SuperSambo said:

@SteamPunkJin said:

@Ninja said:

Don't know who made this, hope it helps. Oh crap, resolutions is too low, just search for a table that shows you results for the suicde mission.

Any chance you have a link to a readable version? I'm quite interested in viewing this chart.

Wait, Shepard can die?

I wonder how that will work out for ME3.

You can't import that save I dont think. Shepard dies, humanity dies. I might try that ending.

Your story ends and you cannot import it into ME3, the final cut scene
#49 Posted by Hizang (8532 posts) -

Jack's dope! I only had Miranda die, hate that bitch!

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#50 Posted by MackGyver (583 posts) -

I mostly played Paragon but when Miranda and Jack are fighting in the conference room, choose to side with Miranda (even though that's a Paragon choice.) Then when doing the suicide mission at the end, Jack dies. That's how my playthrough went.

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