Maybe I was the only one to notice?

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#1 Edited by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -

That almost every gender in the Mass Effect universe seems to be asexual? I've never seen a female Salarian, Turian, Volus, Batarian, Krogan, etc... that I can ever think of. The only race (other than human) that I can remember seeing both sexes is Quarian. Am I the only one that noticed that? 
 
EDIT: Okay maybe nobody actually understands what I mean. I said SEE. I never SAW any of the other genders. Just because the lore of the game says they exist doesn't mean we ever got to see any of them. Can anybody tell me what a female Turian looks like? Salarian female? Ever notice every character you SEE in the game except for Asari, Humans and some of the Quarians are male?

#2 Posted by fwylo (3556 posts) -

SPOILERS

#3 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

There are female Krogans. You should probably pay attention next time.

#4 Posted by JoyfullOFrockets (1177 posts) -

It's an experiment to see if we'd crave for naked Krogan women.

#5 Posted by takua108 (1478 posts) -

IIRC, Asari are the only one-gender race in the Mass Effect universe.

#6 Posted by 02sfraser (847 posts) -

There are female Krogans and it says all Asari are female. Pretty sure I have come across female Salarians as well but not sure.

#7 Posted by LiquidPrince (15850 posts) -

The Rachni Queen is a female... hence the name.

#8 Posted by sixpin (1286 posts) -

Salarians have females. There is a bachelor party for one in the bar on Illios I believe. If you listen in on the conversation he says it was an arranged marriage because they treat marriage like business deals or something to that effect.

#9 Edited by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -
@fwylo said:

" SPOILERS "

Spoilers how? 

@Axxol said:

" There are female Krogans. You should probably pay attention next time. "

I said see. Did you ever SEE a female Krogan? I know they exist. But there was never one in the game. You were told that Santa was real. Doesn't mean he was.
 

@takua108

said:

" IIRC, Asari are the only one-gender race in the Mass Effect universe. "

Ah. I forgot about that.
#10 Posted by KarlPilkington (2685 posts) -

You are wrong. End.

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#11 Edited by Dylabaloo (1549 posts) -
@Shadowsquire said:  Asari are genderless, Turian, Salarian and Krogan women are mentioned in dialog and as for Volus and Batarian.
  
  Who could love a face like this. 
  

#12 Posted by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -
@Dylabaloo: Yea but were any of them actually anywhere to be seen in the universe? No?
#13 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -

We've seen female Krogan and Salarian. I thought, even, that I remembered a female Turian. And yes, there are no male Asari. (How could you have missed that point in the first game?) There haven't been many Volus and Batarians in the game, so I'm not surprised. But, then, there simply might not be all the much difference (like with the Krogan), so maybe we saw them and just didn't know. After all, Mordin tells us that there is more genetic diversity in humans than aliens, and maybe that extends to more significant differences in how the sexes look. I mean, just look at the sex diversity in animals. Evolution doesn't necessarily favor massive differences in sex. Or, perhaps, there actually are differences modeled in the game characters and we just don't see it. We haven't seen many naked aliens after all. Not that any of us know what the genitals of a Volus male look like, let alone a female.

#14 Posted by TheSeductiveMoose (3617 posts) -

I don't think they were included in ze games.

#15 Posted by eroticfishcake (7782 posts) -

I'm just surprised that no one has ever mentioned that story in DA: Origins is pretty much the same as ME2's. Granted, DA came out after ME2 did but even then the story was pretty bland. You're a Grey Warden/Ex-Spectre going around Ferelden/Universe gathering an army/specialists in order to destroy the Darkspawn/Reapers. The only reason why I let them get away with it is because they can make interesting characters. 

#16 Edited by AlwaysBeClothing (1446 posts) -

If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.
 
Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up.
 
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THAT'S SPECIESIST!

#17 Edited by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -
@haggis said:

" We've seen female Krogan and Salarian. I thought, even, that I remembered a female Turian. And yes, there are no male Asari. (How could you have missed that point in the first game?) There haven't been many Volus and Batarians in the game, so I'm not surprised. But, then, there simply might not be all the much difference (like with the Krogan), so maybe we saw them and just didn't know. After all, Mordin tells us that there is more genetic diversity in humans than aliens, and maybe that extends to more significant differences in how the sexes look. I mean, just look at the sex diversity in animals. Evolution doesn't necessarily favor massive differences in sex. Or, perhaps, there actually are differences modeled in the game characters and we just don't see it. We haven't seen many naked aliens after all. Not that any of us know what the genitals of a Volus male look like, let alone a female. "

I had forgotten about the Asari thing, but if you remember a female Turian, where in the game were they? I sure as hell have never seen one. I just find it weird to create a universe with so little female characters. Its like they're all hiding in their houses washing the dishes and making the dudes sammiches. 
 
@AlwaysBeClothing said: 

" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.  Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up. "


I'm actually pretty sure that the rep was a guy and thats why the other two were bothering him. But I'm going to go back and check when I get home. You might be right. 
#18 Posted by melcene (3056 posts) -
@eroticfishcake said:
" I'm just surprised that no one has ever mentioned that story in DA: Origins is pretty much the same as ME2's. Granted, DA came out after ME2 did but even then the story was pretty bland. You're a Grey Warden/Ex-Spectre going around Ferelden/Universe gathering an army/specialists in order to destroy the Darkspawn/Reapers. The only reason why I let them get away with it is because they can make interesting characters.  "
DA came out before ME2 actually. 
 
But even if they are the same, I think they satisfy two completely different subgenres.  Some people enjoy one or the other a lot more when it comes to Sci Fi and Fantasy.
#19 Posted by eroticfishcake (7782 posts) -
@melcene: Ah my bad. But yeah I was just referring to the basic story which I found to be so-so. Everything else in both games are great though (apart from some animations, modelling and other tit-bits but that's a different story.)
#20 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -
@Shadowsquire said:
" @Axxol said:

" There are female Krogans. You should probably pay attention next time. "

I said see. Did you ever SEE a female Krogan? I know they exist. But there was never one in the game. You were told that Santa was real. Doesn't mean he was.
 
Bringing Santa into this doesn't strengthen your statement. Just because you can't see air doesn't mean it isn't real.
#21 Edited by DeeGee (2116 posts) -
@eroticfishcake:  Dragon Age came out before Mass Effect 2.
#22 Posted by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -

It's a tactic on their side. They keep the women secluded for so long that we'll accept pretty much any appearance on them once they roll them out. 

#23 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -
@Shadowsquire:  It's possible the Turian I'm thinking about was in one of the Mass Effect books, now that I think about it more.
#24 Posted by hinderk (685 posts) -

One of the Mass Effect comics has a female Turian and I think the first book has female salarian and batarian characters.

#25 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -
@Shadowsquire said:
@AlwaysBeClothing said: 

" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.  Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up. "

I'm actually pretty sure that the rep was a guy and thats why the other two were bothering him. But I'm going to go back and check when I get home. You might be right.  "
I'm pretty sure that that one Krogan is male.
 
As far as I know, you are right. Besides quarians and humans we only see one gender per race in game.
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#26 Posted by KillyDarko (1888 posts) -
@AlwaysBeClothing said:
" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.
 
Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up.
 
You're not making it up, that is absolutely correct :)
#27 Posted by Gamer_152 (14054 posts) -

No, many, many people have brought up this point before.

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#28 Posted by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -
@Axxol: I never said they weren't real. I just said why don't we see any in the game at all?
#29 Posted by Zealousadonis (133 posts) -

The female versions of those species are mentioned throughout the game, so they definitely aren't asexual. They don't actually appear in the game though, I assume because it would mean the developers would need to create a new body type for each of them. It is the same excuse most FPS games use for not having any women in them. An entirely new body type takes quite a bit of work to create. If they can tell their story without showing a female turian or krogan and just mentioning them, it saves some effort. There are already quite a few body types for all the different aliens.

#30 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4580 posts) -

Well, considering there are no kids, maybe there's some massive female death event that everyone is too traumatized to talk about...

#31 Posted by MystDragon3k (123 posts) -

Commander Shepard is a soldier, neck deep in mercenaries and monsters any given day of the week. The few times hes in civilized areas where there's even a chance of seeing a female, its usually a human colony, or the grungy under-streets of Omega where being a woman is probably a bad idea.
 
There's no question that there are females to these races (Krogan female camp, Garrus' spar buddy, the salarian bachelor party) but I think the perspective limits just how long we would see such individuals, and thus, Bioware didn't want to go through the trouble of designing, making, and implementing a Turian female model, when you spend 25 plus hours of gameplay shooting robots and mercenaries.

#32 Posted by yevinorion (691 posts) -
@eroticfishcake said:
" I'm just surprised that no one has ever mentioned that story in DA: Origins is pretty much the same as ME2's. Granted, DA came out after ME2 did but even then the story was pretty bland. You're a Grey Warden/Ex-Spectre going around Ferelden/Universe gathering an army/specialists in order to destroy the Darkspawn/Reapers. The only reason why I let them get away with it is because they can make interesting characters.  "
This is pretty much a standard plot for all sorts of things, not just games. Seven Samurai was probably one of the earliest works to make use of the concept, but you could list off tons of movies/games that follow the same sort of plot.
#33 Posted by endaround (2138 posts) -
@Gamer_152 said:
" No, many, many people have brought up this point before. "
Yes.  They don't exist because Bioware had trouble making distinct models of each gender for the races.  Now Krogan have a backstory, but no reason why Turians aren't around except they couldn't get a model together.
#34 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Shadowsquire said:
" @Axxol: I never said they weren't real. I just said why don't we see any in the game at all? "
Yes you did, you said they all seem to be asexual. Which would tell me that you thought they didn't exist.
#35 Edited by Tennmuerti (8010 posts) -
@KillyDarko said:

" @AlwaysBeClothing said:

" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.
 
Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up.
 
You're not making it up, that is absolutely correct :) "
Sigh.
People should really stop repeating this false information.
The representative to the female clan on Tuchanka is male.
If you have killed Wrex then his brother flat out tells you this.
You are also told that females are far too valuable to go outside their camps and they have male representatives.
#36 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Tennmuerti said:
" @KillyDarko said:
" @AlwaysBeClothing said:
" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.
 
Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up.
 
You're not making it up, that is absolutely correct :) "
Sight. People should really stop repeating this false information. The representative on Tuchanke is male. If you have killed Wrex then his brother flat out tells you this. "
This. That is not a female. It's said that hes a male, and it's repeatedly said that females are only allowed in their own camps.
#37 Posted by Agent47 (1894 posts) -
@Shadowsquire: There is actually one female Krogan in Tuchanka that you can see.I think she is dead though can't recall too wel..
#38 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7613 posts) -

Yeah, other genders for the races are pretty much all mentioned in both games. 
You don't actually see them but you're definitely not the first to point this out. 
 
@Agent47 said:

" @Shadowsquire: There is actually one female Krogan in Tuchanka that you can see.I think she is dead though can't recall too wel.. "
Yeah, but you never actually see her, she's covered by a blanket.  Though it is said that female krogan's are very rare, so it at least makes sense that we never see them.  
#39 Posted by Sweep (8826 posts) -

There is certainly female Krogans but my understanding is that they are so rare and highly prized because of the Genophage that they are kept under high protection and are used entirely for breeding. That's why you never see any. 
 
 
I would like to see some Turian females. That could be interesting. If you play as Lady Shepard and romance Garrus (As I did) he comments "If you were Turian I'd be complimenting your waist or your fringe.
 
That whole scene is deeply awkward and I encourage everyone to go and watch it.

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#40 Posted by canucks23 (1087 posts) -

I'm pretty sure there are female's of other races, it's just that they don't want to have to spend time modeling them/thinking of what they'd look like or something.

#41 Posted by KillyDarko (1888 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" @Tennmuerti said:
" @KillyDarko said:
" @AlwaysBeClothing said:
" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.
 
Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up.
 
You're not making it up, that is absolutely correct :) "
Sight. People should really stop repeating this false information. The representative on Tuchanke is male. If you have killed Wrex then his brother flat out tells you this. "
This. That is not a female. It's said that hes a male, and it's repeatedly said that females are only allowed in their own camps. "
Sorry guys, my bad. I played ME1 a lot more than ME2, which I only played once. And for some reason I really really had this impression about that Krogan representative.
Thanks for correcting me :)
#42 Posted by Meowayne (6084 posts) -

Video gamers cannot handle and simply do not want non-sexualized female characters.

#43 Posted by Yummylee (21287 posts) -
@Meowayne said:
" Video gamers cannot handle and simply do not want non-sexualized female characters. "
Which would still include you of course.
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#44 Posted by Shadowsquire (362 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" @Tennmuerti said:
" @KillyDarko said:
" @AlwaysBeClothing said:
" If I recall there is a female Krogan on sunny Tuchanka.  Up in the area near the Urdnot Shaman.  There are 2-3 representatives of other Krogan clans and one of them represents the female Krogans.  Thus it stands to reason that their representative is also a female krogan.
 
Its been awhile though so I could be remembering it wrong/making stuff up.
 
You're not making it up, that is absolutely correct :) "
Sight. People should really stop repeating this false information. The representative on Tuchanke is male. If you have killed Wrex then his brother flat out tells you this. "
This. That is not a female. It's said that hes a male, and it's repeatedly said that females are only allowed in their own camps. "
Yea I just went back and checked. It's a guy.
#45 Posted by JJWeatherman (14557 posts) -
@TheSeductiveMoose said:
" I don't think they were included in ze games. "
Sexism! Scandal! Call Fox News!
#46 Posted by TBird13 (107 posts) -

You see a dead female krogan in Mordin's loyalty mission.  That's it for female krogans seen in game. 
I don't think you've ever seen female salarians or turians in game, because, hmm, maybe those species are just really sexist?  

#47 Edited by McFly (63 posts) -

BioWare are SPECIESIST, SEXIST and MISOGYNIST! They obviously want us to think all female aliens are busy at home making babies and space samiches.  
 
Actually, it's probably more of a resource issue than anything else. Creating art and voice assets for all alien species would take more time than it's worth.
 

#48 Posted by Malakhii (1443 posts) -
@Dylabaloo said:
" @Shadowsquire said:  Asari are genderless, Turian, Salarian and Krogan women are mentioned in dialog and as for Volus and Batarian.
  
  Who could love a face like this. 
  

"
I imagine Tali looking something like that but with mandibles. 
#49 Posted by AlwaysBeClothing (1446 posts) -
@Tennmuerti: 
Who would ever kill Wrex?  NOW WHO'S BEING CRAZY.
 
Alos yeah, I saw online that people agree its a male.  C'est la vie
#50 Posted by Rayfield (2097 posts) -

I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE DUDES OR CHICKS ALL I KNOW IS THAT I WANNA HANG WITH SOME HANAR

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