Shepard as a Biotic *spoilers maybe*

#1 Posted by yogetoutdaway (126 posts) -

Does anyone else feel that it's almost impossible to play Shepard as a biotic if you are concerned with the roleplaying aspect of the game? What I mean is, if Shepard was in fact a biotic, it would stand to reason that he would be the strongest biotic on the team. If that were the case, then what would be the need for squad members like Jack and Samara? And why isn't there a single event in the game that showcases Shepard's talents outside of gameplay? The scene in LotSB comes to mind, the part where Shepard is mid-air wrestling with Vasir seems like the perfect opportunity to show him using some of those skills if he's the appropriate class, yet all he seems capable of are punches and kicks while Vasir attacks with her powers. Kinda breaks the illusion.

#2 Posted by Yummylee (21498 posts) -
#3 Posted by 02sfraser (847 posts) -

You're probably right but it would have been weird if you weren't able to play one of the big classes the game has. If you saw biotic characters firing shit, you would be annoyed that you couldn't also take part in the action. I personally wouldn't play the class but I would find it really weird if the option wasn't there.

#4 Posted by Sweep (8844 posts) -

I don't know how far into the game you have played but towards the end you are given a lot of ability-specific tasks all at once, that require a range of different characters to perform. Shepard can't do everything by himself!

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#5 Posted by Undeadpool (4923 posts) -

I don't see why Shepard is automatically the best at everything. The thought never occurred to me.

#6 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -

Even if he's good at something, he's a leader above all and needs to do many things, most of his squad often solely focusses on murder stuff while Shepard takes care of most of the rest.
 
I agree with the LotS cutscene but hey, it never bothered me before that so I'm not gonna let it lessen my experience now.
Mass Effect already does so much more then other games, it can't go wrong in my book.

#7 Edited by cheapandtacky (128 posts) -

Shepherd doesn't use biotics in cinematics fot the same reason that he always uses a pistol in them. No one bothered rendering individual cutscenes for every class/skill/weapon combination. 
 
I don't like the biotic use in cutscenes, they always look awesome but then you use the character ingame with nothing like the same effects.
#8 Posted by yogetoutdaway (126 posts) -
@cheapandtacky:  Well the funny thing is, while there's a distinct lack of biotic abilities in the cinematics, there are ample instances that depict Shepard having great skill with weapons and hand-to-hand combat. This breaks the continuity if for example one played a Vanguard, and saw that Shepard clearly seems to be better at using guns and his fists. Some things that come to mind include the part where Shepard snatches Garrus's sniper and shoots the head of a mech, a scene where he roundhouse kicks a varren, and lets not forget those epic falcon punches on the Shadow Broker. I mean, if Shepard can send out a shockwave with a hand gesture, what business does he have going through the effort of assuming a fighting stance before kicking a varren.
#9 Posted by cheapandtacky (128 posts) -
@yogetoutdaway:
Because no matter what class he is, he's still a highly decorated soldier.
#10 Posted by mazik765 (2315 posts) -
@cheapandtacky said:
" @yogetoutdaway: Because no matter what class he is, he's still a highly decorated soldier. "
This. The OP is making some HUGE assumptions without any real evidence. Like just because he has biotics makes him incapable of any other martial abilities, or just because Shepard is a biotic user he is the automatically the most powerful biotic user. Where does that logic come from? By this logic couldn't you make that case about any class? Like if you roll engineer than having Tali is pointless because Shepard is better. Or if you're a solder than having Grunt is pointless. Not really sure how you got this idea that Shepard = best at whatever he does.
#11 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -
@mazik765 said:
" @cheapandtacky said:
" @yogetoutdaway: Because no matter what class he is, he's still a highly decorated soldier. "
This. The OP is making some HUGE assumptions without any real evidence. Like just because he has biotics makes him incapable of any other martial abilities, or just because Shepard is a biotic user he is the automatically the most powerful biotic user. Where does that logic come from? By this logic couldn't you make that case about any class? Like if you roll engineer than having Tali is pointless because Shepard is better. Or if you're a solder than having Grunt is pointless. Not really sure how you got this idea that Shepard = best at whatever he does. "
This is a problem with all class-based RPGs with the option of choosing teammates. Like if you play an RPG as a mage, and there are mage options for your team. You're less likely to pick them because you've already got those bases covered. It's why such games always have at least one of every major class type. The cutscenes are designed to split the difference, in this case favoring Shepard's ability with guns because they are universal across character types. The idea that this somehow breaks the game's visuals or is a problem unique to Mass Effect 2 is silly.
 
The truth is, you can't max out Shepard's abilities no matter what class he is. So having Grunt along with you, for instance, if you're a Soldier, still makes a difference depending on how his skills are upgraded (like, having one Soldier upgraded with squad incendiary).
#12 Posted by Delicious_Brains (170 posts) -

I have to pick to play as a soldier in my main playthrough because it just annoys me that no-one makes any reference to you being an amazing biotic, or provide any further background on it. Like speaking with Kaidan in ME1 and ME2 in general.

#13 Edited by otaku313 (22 posts) -
@Delicious_Brains said:

" I have to pick to play as a soldier in my main playthrough because it just annoys me that no-one makes any reference to you being an amazing biotic, or provide any further background on it. Like speaking with Kaidan in ME1 and ME2 in general. "

In Mass Effect 1 they do mention(if your an Adept) that Kaiden has L2 implants and Shepard has L3(which are better)  So the game acknowledges that hes a biotic on some level. 
  @mazik765 said:

" @cheapandtacky said:

" @yogetoutdaway: Because no matter what class he is, he's still a highly decorated soldier. "
This. The OP is making some HUGE assumptions without any real evidence. Like just because he has biotics makes him incapable of any other martial abilities, or just because Shepard is a biotic user he is the automatically the most powerful biotic user. Where does that logic come from? By this logic couldn't you make that case about any class? Like if you roll engineer than having Tali is pointless because Shepard is better. Or if you're a solder than having Grunt is pointless. Not really sure how you got this idea that Shepard = best at whatever he does. "
Agreed. How is Shepard with maybe 20-30 years max of being a biotic be better than Samara who is an Asari to begin with and has centuries of experience? As for his clas specific abilities begin shown in-game, that would be cool but it doesnt bother me. Imagine how large the game would be and how much time and effort it would take,with all those different combos for every cut scene.
#14 Posted by mordukai (7150 posts) -

I disagree. What makes Shepard so unique is his/hers leadership skills and an almost un-breakable will. Shepard doesn't have to be the strongest anything only to be an inspiration to the people working with him. You'll be amazed what a good leader can inspire people to do. 

#15 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

Unlike Samera or Jack, Shepard has all of the biotic abilities.

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