okay, so, this was sarcasm if you couldn't tell. Basically, from what I understand, you can get some bonus... armor? clothing? from playing the demo or something. Now, male shepard gets this sweet ass leather jacket

it's p. sweet. I would wear that jacket, I think most people would wear that jacket, makes you look like you're a space greaser or something (space ponyboy)

here's what females get

LADIES WEAR DRESSES RIGHT? EVEN WOMEN WHO GO INTO COMBAT AND SAVE GALAXIES, RIGHT? HAHA YEAH MAN *fist bump*

now, lots of people got angry at me for saying "oh that reversible cover is even worse than not including it at all" but this is just blatant, pandering, sexist, terrible and indefensible. This would be okay, if either femshep got the jacket or male shep got a tuxedo or something to show that this is just evening wear, but you could fight in that leather jacket, I am PRETTY SURE you cannot fight very well in a cocktail dress.

edit: mods please lock this I should have known better to post this here

But those are just casual dressing to wear only on the ship, correct? Of course she wouldn't be wearing that in combat; neither would the male Shepard. What's wrong with it? The fact that she's a woman wearing a dress? Women don't wear dresses?

I'm playing femshep and I wish she got that sweet jacket instead too

I mean same thing happened in ME2 with the Kasumi DLC, maleshep got a suit and femshep got a dress, but since they were infiltrating a big party it made alot of sense, this doesn't. I mean if this was just casual ship clothes it would, but I'm guessing she wears that into combat in the first level

But you don't HAVE to wear it if you don't want to, problem solved

we're the tunnel snakes

Oh, I thought this was about that From Ashes thing. (I'll admit that I don't know what that's about.) Yea, a dress does look pretty dumb in a sci-fi setting, like you can't have dresses and lasers in the same universe.

@FluxWaveZ said:

But those are just casual dressing to wear only on the ship, correct? Of course she wouldn't be wearing that in combat; neither would the male Shepard. What's wrong with it? The fact that she's a woman wearing a dress? Women don't wear dresses?

You have just as much info as I have, but you would not wear that dress just for walking around the ship either

@Venatio: that's not a good argument either. Yeah, I don't HAVE to go buy the 13-2 beach party outfit for serah, that doesn't change the fact that it's there (and terrible)

Well that's dumb. Why can't my male Shepard have a dress too?

@Animasta: if your gonna kill some reapers you might as well look good doing it

Yeah, I'm sure that women who go into combat and save galaxies never wear dresses.  That's not in any way as presumptuous as what you are accusing Bioware of.

I really, really wish this site had an ignore feature.

@Animasta: Are you sure that these two outfits are equivalent? I've been willing to defend BioWare for a lot of the stuff they do, but if this is true, I really don't know what to say.

Femshep wants to feel pretty?

Alright, you got me here. This made me chuckle a little bit.

Side note: Is it just the angle of the shot, or does her body look really disproportionate? Abnormally small upper body (NOT talking breast size here just in case people try to lynch me) and overly muscular/thick legs with hips that start way to far up her torso?

I think ill pass on being outraged on this, thanks.

Also, they both look dumb.

@FluxWaveZ said:

@Animasta: I don't know if I would; I'm not a woman. Why is it totally unrealistic that FemShep would wear a dress?

you honestly think you could relax in that thing? also you missed the high heels too, which are not conductive to relaxing.

ALSO I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT SHE CAN NOT WEAR A DRESS. She wore a dress in the Kasumi mission but I didn't care because Male shepard was wearing a tuxedo, and it was totally valid because they were going to a fancy dress party.

Pretty sure that's the dress from the Kasumi DLC, or close enough. Also I want that jacket in real life!

@Abyssfull: colors are different but yeah it's the same dress

yeah I agree with the dress it's kinda dumb that male Shepard gets that sweet ass jacket and lady Shepard gets...well a dress, what ladies can't wear sweet jackets and looking at that picture it looks really out of place like "hey Shepard let's go back to my place after saving the universe and drinks."

@Grelik: People are into thunder thighs these days, I think.

On Topic: This made me laugh and I'd totally buy that leather jacket if I could.

I love jumping on a Mass Effect hate train whenever one comes my way but women do wear dresses when they wanna look all fancy. Nothing sexist about the fact that women in our society wear slutty/tight clothes for casual wear and revealing clothes for fancy wear. 
 
Do you see any girls in buses, schools or on the street who wear regular non-tight non-sexual clothes? I doubt it. Do you see any women in celebratory or fancy atmospheres or events not wearing revealing dresses? I doubt it.

I don't get how this is "sexist" just because they want to be treated equal doesn't mean they need to throw their needs to do girly things under the bus. Every woman wants to FEEL like a woman sometimes. Women wear dresses and a good number of them like to dress up. The only way it could qualify as being "sexist" is if they used that oufit to overtly sexualize femshep so leering nerds could oogle her. It looks like a fairly conservative attire so honestly I don't see the issue.

I hope this game has a dickgirl option or I'm calling my local congress woman.

Mmm, damn, girl.

Not slutty enough to interest me.

@AhmadMetallic: that leather jacket is not fancy; they are different items of clothing for different purposes. that leather jacket is for looking badass and is definitely casual in nature, that dress can not be considered in any way casual.

@Animasta said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@Animasta: I don't know if I would; I'm not a woman. Why is it totally unrealistic that FemShep would wear a dress?

you honestly think you could relax in that thing? also you missed the high heels too, which are not conductive to relaxing.

If I were using a FemShep I'd want the leather jacket too, but now you're just grasping at straws.

@Demoskinos said:

I don't get how this is "sexist" just because they want to be treated equal doesn't mean they need to throw their needs to do girly things under the bus. Every woman wants to FEEL like a woman sometimes. Women wear dresses and a good number of them like to dress up. The only way it could qualify as being "sexist" is if they used that oufit to overtly sexualize femshep so leering nerds could oogle her. It looks like a fairly conservative attire so honestly I don't see the issue.

This is the same guy complaining that there being 2 different box arts you can flip, 1 for male Shepard, and one for female Shepard is sexist and an outrage.

So yeah...

You're a man, so why are you offended?

And of course this is the only piece of clothing BioWare allows you to wear if you're playing as a lady. In fact, why are you wearing shoes?

Another case where BioWare would've been better off giving the audience nothing. No Prothean character, no anger. No choice of casual clothes, no anger.

It's not even a nice looking dress or a formal military outfit or anything. It looks like she's wearing a fucking garbage bag. Give her the leather jacket.

@AhmadMetallic said:

Do you see any girls in buses, schools or on the street who wear regular non-tight non-sexual clothes? I doubt it. Do you see any women in celebratory or fancy atmospheres or events not wearing revealing dresses? I doubt it.

You're kidding me, right? You've never seen a woman wearing a t-shirt and pants? What are you, James Bond?

@Animasta said:

@AhmadMetallic: that leather jacket is not fancy; they are different items of clothing for different purposes. that leather jacket is for looking badass and is definitely casual in nature, that dress can not be considered in any way casual.

It's not casual, but I must say that it's stylish. And when FemShep isn't running around, saving the galaxy from Reapers and other assholes, who's to say she doesn't feel like being a classy lady?

I'm more bothered by the fact that Bioware still can't render people. They look so damn plastic it's not funny. I mean, they've managed to look Chobot even more ugly to look at and I didn't think that was possible. That is a sweet ass leather jacket though. The dress is kinda icky though. But eh, I think you're looking into this a bit to much.

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@AhmadMetallic: that leather jacket is not fancy; they are different items of clothing for different purposes. that leather jacket is for looking badass and is definitely casual in nature, that dress can not be considered in any way casual.

It's not casual, but I must say that it's stylish. And when FemShep isn't running around, saving the galaxy from Reapers and other assholes, who's to say she doesn't feel like being a classy lady?

Nothing wrong with having both though. It'd be nice to have the option.

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@AhmadMetallic: that leather jacket is not fancy; they are different items of clothing for different purposes. that leather jacket is for looking badass and is definitely casual in nature, that dress can not be considered in any way casual.

It's not casual, but I must say that it's stylish. And when FemShep isn't running around, saving the galaxy from Reapers and other assholes, who's to say she doesn't feel like being a classy lady?

then give maleshep a tuxedo.

@BraveToaster: also I'm not a man but men are offended by this too

why is everyone over reacting to every little thing for this game. its an optional piece of clothing for pete's sake

@AhmadMetallic said:

Do you see any girls in buses, schools or on the street who wear regular non-tight non-sexual clothes? I doubt it. Do you see any women in celebratory or fancy atmospheres or events not wearing revealing dresses? I doubt it.

You're kidding me, right? You've never seen a woman wearing a t-shirt and pants? What are you, James Bond?

Whatever. Women wear dresses. They do, even in 2012. Ideally you could get both costumes for both genders, but I can't see them doing that.

does she literally have to wear nothing but a bra for her natural combat attire before people call it sexist? christ

@Animasta said:

@BraveToaster: also I'm not a man but men are offended by this too

You were born a male. No matter how many operations you get, you'll still be a male.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Alkaiser said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

Do you see any girls in buses, schools or on the street who wear regular non-tight non-sexual clothes? I doubt it. Do you see any women in celebratory or fancy atmospheres or events not wearing revealing dresses? I doubt it.

You're kidding me, right? You've never seen a woman wearing a t-shirt and pants? What are you, James Bond?

Tight jeans and tight semi-revealing tops. t-shirts on a girl? aged 15+? I haven't seen one in real life (and I travel a lot everyday) in long years. Nor do I see any on the facebook of foreign girls or the random youtube videos.

Really? So you've never met somebody's mom?

@Animasta: Does she have to dress like a man for it not to be sexist?

does she literally have to wear nothing but a bra for her natural combat attire before people call it sexist? christ

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Alkaiser said:

@AhmadMetallic said:

Do you see any girls in buses, schools or on the street who wear regular non-tight non-sexual clothes? I doubt it. Do you see any women in celebratory or fancy atmospheres or events not wearing revealing dresses? I doubt it.

You're kidding me, right? You've never seen a woman wearing a t-shirt and pants? What are you, James Bond?

Tight jeans and tight semi-revealing tops. t-shirts on a girl? aged 15+? I haven't seen one in real life (and I travel a lot everyday) in long years. Nor do I see any on the facebook of foreign girls or the random youtube videos.

Really? So you've never met somebody's mom?

@BraveToaster said:

@Animasta said:

@BraveToaster: also I'm not a man but men are offended by this too

You were born a male. No matter how many operations you get, you'll still be a male.

well thanks for being an asshole but that still has nothing to do with the topic at hand

@AhmadMetallic: damn I can't argue with that. only that the leather jacket is radical and the dress is not.

So you have problems with heroic women wearing dresses, but you are okay with Serah wearing a Hilton-esque outfit through her entire adventure to save TIME AND SPACE?(Or how about macho ass Lightning wearing a miniskirt in her original costume?)

@Dallas_Raines said:

So you have problem with heroic women wearing dresses, but you are okay with Serah wearing a Hilton-esque outfit through her entire adventure to save TIME AND SPACE?(Or how about macho ass Lightning wearing a miniskirt in her original costume?)

I never said anywhere I didn't (besides, I had more of a problem with Vanille's outfit than lightning), it's possible to like things while accepting their flaws.

@Animasta: Cool pilots who wear leather jackets take them off when they get into their F15s, just sayin....maybe Shepard just came back from a "welcome back to Earf" party when Anderson called him/her....

How many Bioware threads can the GB community make in the next 10 days? Don't dissapoint me guys!

Also, Male Shep looks pretty manly and sexy in that jacket with his beautiful, EXCLUSIVE model-man face, so I guess this means BioWare hates men.