Don't cheat on the Shadow Broker. (Minor spoilers)

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#1 Edited by PoisonJam7 (335 posts) -

****Some minor spoilers from ME2 and the early stages of 3 follow****

So, my Shepard been romancing Liara since ME1, and after taking a brief detour with Thane in ME2 I told her at the beginning of ME3 that it was over and I wanted to focus on a relationship with her exclusively. (I have always played a FemShep btw.) I guess she couldn't really blame me for having a fling with Thane; I mean, the man WAS dying and all...Plus, she was too chicken to join our little suicide mission in ME2, so I was left with no other appealing options.

Now, unfortunately for Liara (and later, me), my yeoman Samantha Traynor sent Shepard an email asking to come up to her cabin for what I thought was going to to be a friendly game of chess. Someone this promptly took a turn for the unexpected and I soon found myself watching the two potential chess-mates having weird lesbian shower sex. "Hmm..." I thought. What happened to the chess game?

So, after this little affair, I immediately went down to talk to Liara in the crew quarters; I guess I was feeling guilty? But really, I was just checking to see if I pissed her off and if I had ruined my relationship chances with her. She gave me a canned response like "Hello Shepard" or something like that, so I went on my way thinking everything was fine. I had gotten away with my little affair. So, I continued on with the task at hand, which at the time was to go to the Citadel and talk to the Salarian councilor, etc, etc..Well, after that went through, I again, went to talk to Liara just to be absolutely sure I was still okay. Another canned response. So it seemed I really was going to get away with it. The computer is too dumb to know that I cheated on my romancing choice, I thought. Next, I continued to do some misc missions.

Seven and a half hours and several missions later, I go down to talk to Liara like I normally do for all crew members after a mission. She greets me with this: "I heard about you and Samatha, Shepard." "Oh fudge!" I'm thinking. She then says something about how she isn't interested in games anymore and that it is effectively over between us. Shepard mutters something inconsequential, and I'm just sitting there slack-jawed, cursing myself in my head. I just wasted 7 and a half hours of game play all because I had lesbian shower sex with my yeoman during what was supposed to be a fun filled night of chess!

So, now I'm re-playing through these seven and half hours again, constantly thinking to myself how stupid I was. I guess i should have known better. I mean, she IS the Shadow Broker. She was bound to have found out. Long story short, and some advice to Shepard's with wandering eye's: Don't cheat on your main romance partner. It only leads to heartache.

I also find this strange, because I was able to cheat on Thane in ME2 with my other yeoman at the time, Kelly Chambers. I was also able to do some necking with him in ME3 when he first shows up in the hospital, which Liara never found out about. Unless I learn 22 hours down the line that she does in-fact find out about that and I'll have to basically restart the whole game. I guess Bioware figured out that we were having flings with our yeoman and put a stop to it in ME3. Time that should have been spent writing a better ending, from what I gather. (No spoilers please, I still haven't finished 3...I'm too busy cheating of my partners and finding out that they don't like that and having to replay massive segments of game play.)

The end.

#2 Posted by tobygw (580 posts) -

You crazy.

Gettin it on with eccentric and exciting Specialist Traynor > Relationship with dull naggy housewife Liara

#3 Posted by Dany (7887 posts) -

Liara is the canon LI for Mass Effect. Sticking it with her in ME1, Shadow Broker and ME3 provided some of hte best moments in the series.

#4 Edited by Rolyatkcinmai (2684 posts) -

@PoisonJam7 said:

after taking a brief detour with Thane in ME1

How did you get Thane in ME1? CHEAT CODES?

#5 Posted by Bocam (3706 posts) -

@Rolyatkcinmai: Time travel

#6 Posted by DEMONOLOGY_24 (521 posts) -

ya don't you just hate unexpected lesbian sex

#7 Posted by august (3833 posts) -

Chess means sex.

#8 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4669 posts) -

I saw that scene with Specialist Traynor on YouTube, and I facepalmed. It felt like the most pandering thing Bioware has ever done.

And them mufuckas pander.

#9 Posted by devotfeige (116 posts) -

I'm just lost as to how you "accidentally" get the shower scene. You're given a pretty obvious choice between "HEY WHY DON'T YOU GET NAKED" and "So, chess, right!? Chess is awesome!"

#10 Posted by MiniPato (2727 posts) -

@devotfeige said:

I'm just lost as to how you "accidentally" get the shower scene. You're given a pretty obvious choice between "HEY WHY DON'T YOU GET NAKED" and "So, chess, right!? Chess is awesome!"

I thought I was choosing chess. I don't exactly remember what the options were, but I do remember them being pretty damn ambiguous about it and was unexpectedly greeted with weird polygonal shower sex.

#11 Posted by Kikarote (27 posts) -

You dont need to replay 7hours, I was with Liara in the ME1, then Thane in ME2, and back to Liara in the ME3, but in the beginningof the game, in the citadel, I accidentally kiss Thane ( "lets go somewhere private" wasnt for chat), she confronted me, but then we made peace later, and got the sex scene and achievements...

Sorry about the english, brazilian here...

#12 Edited by Irvandus (2875 posts) -

@Bocam said:

@Rolyatkcinmai: Time travel

Nah not until Mass Effect The New Generation.

You play as Jeff and EDI's half robot son. The only real recurring character is a senile Garrus who has taken over as the ships chef, in his mind though he is still fighting the reapers.
#13 Posted by StrainedEyes (1323 posts) -

@MiniPato said:

@devotfeige said:

I'm just lost as to how you "accidentally" get the shower scene. You're given a pretty obvious choice between "HEY WHY DON'T YOU GET NAKED" and "So, chess, right!? Chess is awesome!"

I thought I was choosing chess. I don't exactly remember what the options were, but I do remember them being pretty damn ambiguous about it and was unexpectedly greeted with weird polygonal shower sex.

If you offer to let her use the shower, while she's in there it gives you a clear prompt of "Get in with her" or "Don't get in".

#14 Posted by Grixxel (764 posts) -

@Irvandus said:

@Bocam said:

@Rolyatkcinmai: Time travel

Nah not until Mass Effect The New Generation.

You play as Jeff and EDI's half robot son. The only real recurring character is a senile Garrus who has taken over as the ships chef, in his mind though he is still fighting the reapers.

I'm going to hold you to that!

#15 Posted by 137 (481 posts) -

here's a huge tip, doesn't matter who you fuck once you get to the end of the game.

#16 Posted by TEHMAXXORZ (1199 posts) -

@Bocam said:

@Rolyatkcinmai: Time travel

Reverse FTL travel.

#17 Posted by Delta_Ass (3274 posts) -

Chess always leads to trouble.

#18 Edited by Ghostiet (5242 posts) -

Don't worry - unlike Samantha, Allers is inconsequential, as long as you can live with tapping Jessica Chobot.

#19 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7614 posts) -

Samantha gets you the achievement, that should have tipped you off right there. Unlike Kelly, she's a serious relationship option.

Plus you should always be suspicious when lesbians invite you for private "chess" games.

#20 Posted by Superfriend (1540 posts) -

Dude, there still was an option for "just play chess" or something, because in my game nothing happened between Shep and Not-Kelly. They were just playing holo chess.

So basically, you screwed up and should have known better than cheating on the Shadow Broker!

#21 Posted by phampire (284 posts) -

chess is the new coffee

#22 Posted by AndrewB (7568 posts) -

It's Bioware. Chess always means sex.

Actually, my Shepard actually played a game of chess without having sex. I also had a private interview with Diana Allers *cringe* without having sex. I could continue down this line for two other characters that tried to get between myself and Liara, but I won't.

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#23 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -

And that's exactly what's wrong with you men.
 
When you are in a relationship you never ever pick the option where you shower with your assistant/yeoman.

#24 Edited by pweidman (2319 posts) -

Yeah, I remember the dialogue w/Traynor as a pretty clear choice. Sex or chess was offered pretty bluntly me thinks. I passed in hopes of somehow fixing my very early response to Liara that we were finished due to my new relationship w/Jack in ME2, who....well let's just say that she was a dead end for me ;). Never got back into Liara's good graces. Next playthrough I guess.

Never got any options to bed Allers, and glad I didn't because I found her rather repulsive on a couple levels...just eewwww.

#25 Posted by Swoxx (2988 posts) -

@tobygw said:

You crazy.

Gettin it on with eccentric and exciting Specialist Traynor > Relationship with dull naggy housewife Liara

I agree. But for some reason I was stupid enough to think that I could cheat and get away with it when I'm involved with the fucking shadow broker.

#26 Posted by AlexanderSheen (4965 posts) -

@Delta_Ass said:

Chess always leads to trouble.

Knowledge and chess leads to intimacy. Everybody knows that. Ask the P4 ER, he'll say the same.

#27 Edited by Brendan (7734 posts) -

I kissed Miranda by accident at the beginning of ME 3, then I went back and cut it off. I crushed her damn heart, man. Seriously, it was rough stuff.

Honestly though, the romance stuff is not even the thing that gets to me emotionally about the three game continuity. It's seeing the scenes with me and Garrus after playing through almost three games with him that makes me all misty eyed. BROS FOR LIFE, GARRUS. BROS FOR LIFE.

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#28 Posted by Harkat (1101 posts) -

I romance'd Liara in ME1, then Tali in ME2. When I played Shadow Broker, Liara was not happy about it, and at the end of the DLC we had a little closure chat that strongly implied our romantic relationship was done.

BUT THEN, when I meet her again in ME3, she acts like as if that conversation never happened and again asks about me and Tali's ME2 relationship, which I then say is over. So, then, I stayed loyal to Liara through ME3 and got to have dream sex once again.

#29 Edited by PoisonJam7 (335 posts) -

Oh I knew full well what I was getting into. Namely the shower with another woman, but I thought I could get away with it, see? Like with Kelly Chambers in ME2.

If only Tali was a lesbian...I wouldn't have to deal with this nonsense. And no, playing as a Male Shepard isn't an option. I can't stand that fool.

#30 Posted by rjayb89 (7720 posts) -

Loved bringing in Liara on my first mission with Tali. Shepard and Tali really rub it in.

#31 Edited by SmasheControllers (2547 posts) -

Once you go blue, you stay true. Excepted for the achievement in ME2.

#32 Edited by Yummylee (21475 posts) -

Goddamnit, I did the same thing too! Only I knew full well what was coming (AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH), I just never knew it was actually going to be a committed relationship and I figured she was only there to give me lap dances like Kelly. I felt bad, and it felt awkward how quickly things are brushed over and how me n Samantha are like a pair of rabbits all of a sudden. I wish there would of been a conversation or something so I could back out of it. My own fault for being such a whore. I shouldn't of gotten all cozy with Kelly either. Shame, because the Liara romance is genuinely pretty touching.

For my second playthrough, I've imported my fellow who also boned up some blue bunions, but then switched to Tali in ME2 and stayed true with Tali for ME3. So far there's a lot more innuendo (especially during the Geth dreadnought)... it's kinda awkward actually. Shepard more than ever sounds like some school boy; I half expect they'll be passing each other notes during debriefing.

#33 Posted by Atary77 (502 posts) -

This is my gripe with how the romance options work is that, you talk to anyone and you want to be Paragon it just automatically seems like you're hitting on them. Which is pretty stupid. You should be able to be friendly with these folks without wanting them as a love interest at all.

#34 Posted by big_jon (5723 posts) -

The "love" scenes in Mass effect are so bad.

#35 Posted by ShaggE (6402 posts) -

I keep seeing these names that aren't Tali... weird...

#36 Posted by Divina_Rex (351 posts) -

As said before, there was an option to just play chess. Also, I cheated on Liara with Tali but Liara never got really angry about it.

#37 Posted by Brodehouse (9778 posts) -

Sorry, sweetheart I didn't think it was going to be this big 'thing'. I just thought it would be some fun on the side! I mean, uh, I didn't even want to, I thought we were playing chess and then the next thing you know I was eating her pussy! I didn't have a choice! You have to believe me!

You say you're a female Shepard, but your bullshit excuses reveal you as a full blown dude.

#38 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4691 posts) -

"Weird lesbian shower sex," you say...

#39 Posted by DrDarkStryfe (1104 posts) -

Very upset that you can screw up a Tali romance very easily. She appears so late in the game, and you can romance a handful of people before you run into her again.

#40 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

I stuck with Liara because she's awesome and I was suspicious about Traynor. I thought there was going to be an insider threat on the Normandy in my first playthrough.

#41 Posted by jillsandwich (762 posts) -

You have to stick with Liara man. Liara's romance scene is the only one in ME3 that doesn't look awkward, and IT'S GOT SIDEBOOB.

#42 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

@tobygw said:

You crazy.

Gettin it on with eccentric and exciting Specialist Traynor > Relationship with dull naggy housewife Liara

You crazy! Them Asari can get you off right IN YOUR BRAIN. Did you see the Liara skin-e-max scene? She literally bangs Shepard's brains out. Now if Asari were real... you'd never go back to Humans, no matter what. Asari are SEX AND DRUGS rolled into one.

#43 Posted by Gatehouse (601 posts) -

Like so many here, I had to stay true to Ol' Blue. Even had to let down Garrus.

Might not be so nice with GuyShep though, he's just a big slut.

#44 Posted by sickVisionz (1268 posts) -

I actually dumped Liara for Tali and regretted it a lot. Liara grew up a lot from me banging out some easy broad in ME1 to her joining me in ME3. I dumped her early in ME3 but after the first serious conversation that I had with her it became very clear that I had made a grave error. Liara has massive character growth from the giddy nerd I fucked in ME1. The chats on the Citadel and about her time capsule made me really feel regret about having broken up with her, especially when it was with my "William Sheperd" who I try to make do everything I would do in real life. It's probably asking too much since this is an action rpg and not a romantic harem drama rpg, but I really wish they didn't ask me to make that hard choice so early. When Tali came back, after frickin abandoning me forever, she was still really silly and goofy and like a high school girl and that was just... ughh. No. Tali seems like the worst option. Every other female I had conversations with seemed like a way better choice for my Shepherd and the way the voice actor says his dialog it often sounds like he's trying to make a pass at them, but alas, the romance options are limited.

But anyways, yeah. Don't cheat on the Shadow Broker.

#45 Posted by benspyda (2032 posts) -

@TEHMAXXORZ said:

@Bocam said:

@Rolyatkcinmai: Time travel

Reverse FTL travel.

Scotty you need to implode the engines.

#46 Posted by benspyda (2032 posts) -

Staying loyal to Miranda was a let down.

#47 Posted by JeanLuc (3577 posts) -

@Dany said:

Liara is the canon LI for Mass Effect. Sticking it with her in ME1, Shadow Broker and ME3 provided some of hte best moments in the series.

No there isn't a canon LI.

but yeah your basically right.

#48 Posted by GS_Dan (1402 posts) -

I did exactly the same thing, minus Thane. :|

#49 Posted by Marz (5648 posts) -

that's why you have a relationship with Diana Allers and then romance Liara because you are discreet about your indiscretion(yes i tested it and was able to romance liara after a fling with allers)..

#50 Posted by pyromagnestir (4283 posts) -

As my first playthrough is with a male shep, who told Liara up front "Whoa lady, I'm not a one woman/unisex blue alien with boobs thing man." (although I did look up the possible romance options afterwards and thought hmmm... that might've been a tragic mistake) I had to do a little, ahem, research to see the scene in question and I'm gonna have to call bs on the whole "Really I only thought we were going to play a game of chess!" defense. You are a horndog admit it!

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