Tali's Face - taken from stock image.(Spoilers)

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#1 Edited by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
#2 Posted by DrDarkStryfe (1148 posts) -

Trust me, they had to pay to get it into the game.

Hilarious that it is a stock photo.

#3 Posted by Drakoji (230 posts) -

There's already a thread for that.

#4 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -
@DrDarkStryfe said:

Trust me, they had to pay to get it into the game.

Hilarious that it is a stock photo.

"Since the original release of Neverwinter Nights, several in-game portraits have been modified in patches due to their having been copied from outside sources. In another instance, the Canadian Red Cross complained to BioWare about the appearance of the Red Cross symbol on the in-game item "Healer's Kit", as part of a long-running attempt to discourage misuse of the symbol. This resulted in the Red Cross symbol being removed from the Healer's Kit through patches. "
#5 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
@LordXavierBritish said:
@DrDarkStryfe said:

Trust me, they had to pay to get it into the game.

Hilarious that it is a stock photo.

"Since the original release of Neverwinter Nights, several in-game portraits have been modified in patches due to their having been copied from outside sources. In another instance, the Canadian Red Cross complained to BioWare about the appearance of the Red Cross symbol on the in-game item "Healer's Kit", as part of a long-running attempt to discourage misuse of the symbol. This resulted in the Red Cross symbol being removed from the Healer's Kit through patches. "
Hey no problem, they can just retcon it in some DLC!
#6 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

what is the big deal, would you rater them hire an model, what is the difference

#7 Posted by ajamafalous (12165 posts) -

lol

#8 Posted by EastboundSpider (94 posts) -

@SlightConfuse: It's really, really lazy and half-assed.

Much like the rest of Bioware. :)

#9 Posted by Drakoji (230 posts) -

@SlightConfuse: I would rather have a in-game model.

#10 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4988 posts) -

Kind of lazy but I'm OK with it.

#11 Posted by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

You know the dude that put that there was telling everyone he could he needed content for that picture.

#12 Posted by DrDarkStryfe (1148 posts) -

@SlightConfuse: The issue is that Bioware put zero thought into a central character in the series. To dangle something in front of people the idea that Quarian's wear masks constantly, and then never show those people what they look like is bad enough, but something like this makes it look like it was a zero hour decision.

#13 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

@DrDarkStryfe: i highly doubt it was as half assed as people are saying, im sure they had an idea of what she looked likefrom the beginning, i see no difference between this and hiring a model likeness for her. They did the dame thing for male his in game model is really close to the real life one.

@Drakoji: i have not played the game yet, maybe there is one?

#14 Posted by Intro (1212 posts) -
#15 Posted by Overbite (210 posts) -

So not only do they reveal a masked characters looks, they didn't even put any thought or effort into it. Let's just make the lady in this stock photo purple and give her glowing eyes and a weird hand. Instant Tali.

#16 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
@DrDarkStryfe said:

Trust me, they had to pay to get it into the game.

Hilarious that it is a stock photo.

About £100, if the link isn't lying. It meant they could spend money on more important things, like Jessica Chobot, launching copies into trees and pc gamepad support. 
#17 Posted by Deusx (1910 posts) -

@SlightConfuse: The big deal is that as a designer it is very bad to use assets that aren't your own. It's stealing even if you pay for them. At least that's what most designers would tell you.

#18 Edited by Drakoji (230 posts) -

@SlightConfuse: I saw some scenes that would indicate that no, you never see her face in-game.

#19 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
@Intro: I can go one better 
#20 Posted by _Zombie_ (1462 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@Intro: I can go one better

I swear, if that's real and Bioware actually sunk that low.. I'm going to laugh my ass off.

#21 Posted by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

Do you know how hard it is to make a planet in photoshop, fuck that. Just have the intern search it on google for an hour.

#22 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
@zombiebigfoot: The profile hahahafire has one comment in two years, the one in that picture. Think of that what you will.
#23 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish: Doesn't seem to have anything on it now.

#24 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
#25 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1146 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish: Oh wait. I did that wrong. I thought hahafire was the guy who did the image for some reason and was then confused when nothing was there. Ha. My bad!

#26 Posted by xyzygy (10079 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

Do you know how hard it is to make a planet in photoshop, fuck that. Just have the intern search it on google for an hour.

These people are creating a multimillion dollar video game. I'm sure they have the resources to slap a planet together in some drawing program.

#27 Posted by FengShuiGod (1492 posts) -

@xyzygy said:

@Dagbiker said:

Do you know how hard it is to make a planet in photoshop, fuck that. Just have the intern search it on google for an hour.

These people are creating a multimillion dollar video game. I'm sure they have the resources to slap a planet together in some drawing program.

:| Seriously? Bro....sit down. I need to tell you something about the world.

#28 Posted by _Zombie_ (1462 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@zombiebigfoot: The profile hahahafire has one comment in two years, the one in that picture. Think of that what you will.

Believe me, I already am..

#29 Posted by Arker101 (1472 posts) -

See everyone, Bioware really does care! They use royalty free images and google image search just like us normal folk.

#30 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2341 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@Intro: I can go one better

Looks similar and has the same theme, but its not the same picture, unlike the Tali pic.

#31 Posted by CrimsonNoir (403 posts) -

It's not the same image, so they at least took the time to recreate it. So it's probably not illegal, just shady.

#32 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2341 posts) -

Pretty much yeah

#33 Posted by Vorbis (2750 posts) -

Saddest part is that there is tons of Tali fanart out there that do a much better job of making her look alien without being ugly, yet they just went with shopping a picture of some random model.

#34 Posted by Three0neFive (2304 posts) -

@Intro said:

Was going to post this exact image. They even copied the way there's one slightly bigger tree on the left 1/3rd of the planet.

Pretty low, if you ask me. I already didn't think much of Bioware after their last year or two, but this gives me a whole new level of disgust. :/

#35 Posted by Itwastuesday (986 posts) -

I was kind of hoping she would be some horrifying leech/sac/gelatin creature or something. OH WELL THX BIOWARE

#36 Posted by galkaeater (2 posts) -

@Deusx said:

@SlightConfuse: The big deal is that as a designer it is very bad to use assets that aren't your own. It's stealing even if you pay for them. At least that's what most designers would tell you.

I would Disagree stock photos and textures from CG textures and other similer sites are used all the time in game devolpment, Its definatly not stealing if they pay for it I mean come on now.

While I quite frankly don't give a damn about talis mug, an ingame reveal of her taking her mask off and showing her face would of been alot more effective than a photo, stock image or not, although that would of required more work from different people modeling, rigging and animating.

Or maybe they should of saved time, money and the tears of fans and not bothered at all with her face.

#37 Edited by Jay444111 (2441 posts) -

tali has three fingers... that pic does not. that is not tali obviously. I win.

#38 Posted by Lazyaza (2212 posts) -

Yeah I already raged about this on another forum, man Bioware. I mean didn't expect anything amazing with Tali's required reveal at long last, but for them to be so blatantly lazy with it, not even making it part of the game proper urgh. And after listening to the bombcast sounds like I should be getting ready to be disappointed by ME3 for a number of other reasons too. Fucking hell.

#39 Posted by aspaceinvader (257 posts) -

If that's what tail looked like then yes I would.

#40 Posted by Vegetable_Side_Dish (1733 posts) -
@SomeDeliCook: Does that make it original? Because they shifted a few trees around?
#41 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4833 posts) -

I'm conflicted. On one hand it seems completely lazy. Instead of actually modeling her face in game, they took a stock photograph, photoshopped it, and stuck it on a random in-game object. All the time they spent on every other female in the game (what was the budget on Miranda's ass? And who picked out Ashley's sexy lingerie?) and you're telling me they couldn't model one face? I call bullshit. I think keeping it a secret would've been better than this.

On the other hand, it's ultimately not that big of a deal considering Bioware themselves don't seem to place too much importance in that scene.

#42 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2341 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish said:

@SomeDeliCook: Does that make it original? Because they shifted a few trees around?

Didn't say it was original. I said it isn't the same exact picture. They atleast made a different picture instead of just applying effects like the Tali pic.

#43 Posted by James_Giant_Peach (751 posts) -

Speaking from an artist's perspective, those pictures are nothing alike.

#44 Posted by charlie_victor_bravo (1048 posts) -

As an amateur photographer who sells photos on Getty Images, it is fantastic to see them using material from stockphoto shops. As a gamer I am really appalled that Tali has such a human face and that makes it seem like they are really lazy. If this was Ashley's photo, it would be perfectly fine.

#45 Posted by GS_Dan (1397 posts) -

@Vegetable_Side_Dish: The art on the planet is different, as are the trees and shit. It's probable that they took 'inspiration' from it, but they didn't just copy paste.

#46 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4860 posts) -

Oh wow, Bioware.

#47 Posted by Atary77 (502 posts) -

Me personally I was just hoping for something that looked more Alien

#48 Posted by Village_Guy (2667 posts) -

It seems like I am the first to come in and say that I think this is fake (at least directly). But hey, I haven't played the game yet so I could be wrong.

#49 Posted by Jimi (1126 posts) -

Fucks sake, I wanted Tali to be a horrific slug beast...

#50 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

Oh, man. Way to go, Bioware.

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