New character advice...

#1 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -

I played through Mass Effect once around the time it first came out, but I just saw the game on my shelf and I'm thinking of giving it another playthrough. Now, I vaguely remember that there is a feature where you can choose a skill from your previous character class and have it carry over to your new character, even though that class normally would not have been able to use that skill.

Is there anything else I need to know? Which classes are the best to take to level 60? Any general leveling strategies or anything like that? I'm looking to build a fun, overpowered character and I really like using the force powers, uhh I mean biotics. What about the achievements and how they evidently unlock skill trees for use in all future characters, any input on that?

Thanks!

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#2 Posted by suneku (2997 posts) -

Go with Adapt then. They are full biotics and you can still level up guns to be as deadly, preferably pistol or AR. That was probably the one I had most fun with. Vanguard is also good as it's a mix of soldier and Adapt.

#3 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@suneku: Do you know how the new game plus works with multiple playthroughs? Like...would it be better to start one playthrough with a class I didn't necessarily want to play just in order to get one of their skills for the next game? I don't remember exactly how all that worked.
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#4 Posted by EpicSteve (6479 posts) -

Soldiers are probably the easiest characters to use. With new game plus everything moves over, however, you have to re-assign all your characters skill points. 

#5 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -

I think I played an Adept last time, it's been so long I don't remember. What I do remember is my character used pistols and had lift, singularity, and push...that's about all I can recall. I think it was an Adept.

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#6 Edited by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
@MB: Sounds like you played as a Vanguard. If were an Adept you would have had a lot more abilities. :)
#7 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@Agnogenic: Nope, I just looked at the ME page and I definitely played as an Adept because I had Singularity, and Vanguards don't get Singularity. At least according to the wiki.
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#8 Posted by ZombieHunterOG (3530 posts) -

what i did is played as a solider first to get the ability to use assault rifles with any class and then a made a full biotic character  that can used that skill. its really really good 

#9 Posted by Death_Unicorn (2838 posts) -

If you unlocked an achievement say the one for killing ___ many people with the shotgun, when you start a brand new playthrough you will be able to use the shotgun with a class that normally wouldn't be able to. I don't remember if it's one weapon along with one power, or just one ability in general. Overall, if you aren't playing as a soldier, the assault rifle makes everything easier.

#10 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -

Interesting...it sounds like it may be worth playing through the game as a Soldier and then unlocking a weapon skill for a pure biotics/tech character during my next playthrough.

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#11 Posted by ZombieHunterOG (3530 posts) -
@MB said:
" Interesting...it sounds like it may be worth playing through the game as a Soldier and then unlocking a weapon skill for a pure biotics/tech character during my next playthrough. "
its really is, also on high difficulty plays you can do some pretty badass stuff such as trapping your enemies in a gravity field that spins them around the room and then use overkill with your assault rifle and gun them all down before they hit the ground. 
#12 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@ZombieHunter: Cool, thanks for the input. I started a Soldier.
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#13 Posted by Origina1Penguin (3500 posts) -

The skills not normally available are unlocked from achievements.  This is stated on the GB Overview page for the game if you want to see which unlockables are tied to each achievement.  It comes right after the "Classes" section.

#14 Posted by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
@MB: My bad. :p I remember playing through Mass Effect a bunch of times to try and get all the achievements... what a painful journey after the third time.
#15 Posted by ZombieHunterOG (3530 posts) -
@MB said:
" @ZombieHunter: Cool, thanks for the input. I started a Soldier. "
its been a while since i played but you definitely  want to get the skill immunity as soon as you can, and when you get the chance to upgrade your class from solider to drop trooper or shock trooper choose the one that makes immunity better and increases you damage resistance, Immunity is by far the best skill in that game making you near unkilliable if you max it out.
#16 Posted by bandresen (67 posts) -

I started with an Adapt until I unlocked the Singularity ability and then created a Vanguard that had Singularity.

So you have nearly every Adapt power (Only one is missing, IIRC), plus medium armor and shotgun if you like that.

#17 Posted by Brundage (371 posts) -

no point to get to 60, your lvl doest carryover to second game

#18 Posted by Origina1Penguin (3500 posts) -
@ZombieHunter said:
" @MB said:
" @ZombieHunter: Cool, thanks for the input. I started a Soldier. "
its been a while since i played but you definitely  want to get the skill immunity as soon as you can, and when you get the chance to upgrade your class from solider to drop trooper or shock trooper choose the one that makes immunity better and increases you damage resistance, Immunity is by far the best skill in that game making you near unkilliable if you max it out.
"
Yeah, Immunity + Shock Trooper + Adrenaline Rush = Invincible.
#19 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
@MB: Here's a tip if you're trying to get the AR achievement quickly so you can make your Adept/Engineer.  Once you've gotten control of the Normandy, go to the Attican Beta cluster.  Admiral Hackett will give you a mission and you'll need to go to the planet Eletania in the Hercules system.  Once you get there and find the downed probe, your map will update and show some monkey colonies.  Drive to one of the colonies and save the game.  You can kill all the monkeys with your AR and reload the save as many times as you want.  It all counts towards the achievement.  Quickest way to get it. 
#20 Posted by cc23574 (665 posts) -

You should play as a Vanguard,later in the game you can choose a new 'skill'.If you pick the 'skill' to use the assault rifle,you're unstoppable!

#21 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@EvilTwin: So you're saying I should just use Soldier long enough to unlock the Assault Rifle achievement, then start over with a new character?
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#22 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
@MB said:
" @EvilTwin: So you're saying I should just use Soldier long enough to unlock the Assault Rifle achievement, then start over with a new character? "
No, I just thought that's what you were doing.  In which case that is the fastest way to do it.  But, from my experience with all the classes, the soldier is actually the least enjoyable.  He relies on shooting which I think is the weakest part of the combat, whereas my overpowered level 60 Adept doesn't even need to fire a shot if he equips his cohorts with decent weapons. 
#23 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@EvilTwin: I guess it is. I'm already remembering having a lot more fun using my force powers as an Adept compared to shooting with this Soldier. I think I'll take your advice and then start a new character with the assault rifle skill.

Do the carryover skills stack? Like, can I start an Adept once I unlock the AR achievement, finish the game, and then start a Vanguard with both the assault rifle skill and something from the Adept line?
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#24 Posted by Shadow (4977 posts) -

Speaking as someone with all achievements in the game, Vanguard + Singularity = AWESOME

#25 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@Muttinus_Rump: I was under the impression that as long as I got the Assault Rifle achievement, all subsequent characters would have that skill available to train. Is that not the case?
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#26 Posted by jakob187 (21645 posts) -

Is this the thread where I admit that I've never played Mass Effect?    >.>   <.<   O.O


Because I haven't.
#27 Posted by Muttinus_Rump (814 posts) -

Sorry man, I deleted my post when I realised everyone above me had said the same thing. But yeah, that's the case, did I say anything otherwise?

#28 Posted by Lies (3866 posts) -
@MB said:
" @Muttinus_Rump: I was under the impression that as long as I got the Assault Rifle achievement, all subsequent characters would have that skill available to train. Is that not the case? "
No, that's not quite how it works. When you get a weapon or power achievement, you unlock the ability to give that skill to new characters. But a new character only gets ONE bonus skill- i.e., if you carry over the Assault Rifle talent, you can't choose another bonus skill. The achievement unlocks for bonus talents don't stack, you only get to choose one bonus talent on each new character.

The passive abilities you get from the Ally achievements and other achievements DO stack, but you can only choose one bonus talent for each character.
#29 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -
@Lies: Cool man, thanks for clearing that up for me. I think I'm going to get the Assault Rifles achievement and then start over as one of the Jedi classes.
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#30 Posted by EvilTwin (3324 posts) -
@MB:  As Lies said, only one bonus talent per character, period. 
#31 Posted by MB (12049 posts) -

Update...I'm playing an Adept with the assault rifle skill. Lots of fun so far! The AR really makes a difference in how fun this class is to play compared to the last time I went through with only a pistol.

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#32 Posted by suneku (2997 posts) -

Yeah the AR is badass with Adept. I'm probably going to remake my character like that again before ME2 comes out.

#33 Posted by GameFreak315 (151 posts) -

Hey, just want to say this thread helped me out, too!  I'm going to start a new game soon, and I wasn't aware that skills would carry over from one game to the next.  I played a Soldier the first time around, I'm thinking about going Adept now so I can actually use some Biotics.  Thanks!  :)

#34 Edited by pweidman (2302 posts) -

Great info in this thread...makes me want to break out ME and finish my second playthrough(soldier), or start a brand new character as I already have the AR achievement.  Vanguard or Adept would be my quandry.  I played the soldier to 55 so far, and always rolled w/tech and biotic characters instead....did I miss out on some great fun?

#35 Posted by GameFreak315 (151 posts) -
@pweidman:
That's what I'm wondering, and I plan on finding out.  I remember playing KOTOR for the first time and being sort of intimidated by all the technical stuff, since it was my first actually RPG.  After I got comfortable with the combat, I went back and became a Sentinel.  I really enjoyed the force powers in that game, to my surprise, and I'm hoping this experience will be as fun.  (I'm sure it will.)
#36 Posted by GameFreak315 (151 posts) -

Bummer, looks like I can't change the class of my existing character when I start a new game.  Now I have to decide on using the same character and getting the Hardcore and level 50/60 achievements, or make a new one so I can use Biotics for a change of pace, and all those "Use [x] 75 times" achievements."  Lame.  :P

#37 Posted by sickVisionz (1268 posts) -
@Brundage said:
" no point to get to 60, your lvl doest carryover to second game "
This is false unless all of my second runthroughs are experiencing a glitch where they start at the level the prior game ended at.
#38 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -
@sickVisionz said:
" @Brundage said:
" no point to get to 60, your lvl doest carryover to second game "
This is false unless all of my second runthroughs are experiencing a glitch where they start at the level the prior game ended at. "
I think they are talking about your level not carrying over to ME2, not your second playthrough of ME.
#39 Posted by sickVisionz (1268 posts) -

Ahh, I stand corrected.  I remember reading that.  It kinda sucks, but I don't mind it too much if you can at least keep the perks you earn or your weapons.

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