Buy the game. Doesnt work. Crack the game. It does?! WTF?

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#1 Posted by harinosho (593 posts) -

Okay, I bought the retail copy of Max Payne 3, four discs. Bought and paid for. After installing the game, it doesnt work. Thinking I did something wrong. I reinstall. Not a fast process. Anyway, same thing, runs the updates, but no go.

Check the net, a lot of problems with the game. tried all of em to get the game working, nothing. Then I get the idea" try cracking the game", never know right? I do it. and what do yo know. fucking game works. no problem. After a day and half trying to fix my problem, the people who cracked the game got it working.

Now seriously, what in the fuck is going on. I like buying my games. I like PC games, but what the hell, I had to crack the game to get it working? Does that make any sense at all?

#2 Posted by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

Im not going to say its your fault for buying a Rockstar PC port, but thats what happens when you buy a Rockstar PC port.

#3 Posted by AlexW00d (6189 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

Im not going to say its your fault for buying a Rockstar PC port, but thats what happens when you buy a Rockstar PC port.

The rest of the game is optimised as fuck. It's something to do with the shitty Rockstar community stuff that does it.

#4 Edited by sate2801 (344 posts) -

there's like 1 time I magically be able to get past the rockstar logo

then I activate the CD KEY, watched the first 30seconds of the game's cutscene, then crashed

I should have use the money to buy burnout paradise, or maybe MOH2010, or maybe both, damn it

#5 Posted by Robot_Moses (110 posts) -

It was the same story with the PC port of L.A. Noire. Game would never get past the menu screen/opening for me and lots of other folks until cracked. That's sadly how Rockstar's PC ports are.

#6 Posted by TooWalrus (13139 posts) -

@AlexW00d said:

@Dagbiker said:

Im not going to say its your fault for buying a Rockstar PC port, but thats what happens when you buy a Rockstar PC port.

The rest of the game is optimised as fuck. It's something to do with the shitty Rockstar community stuff that does it.

Yeah, I downloaded the Steam version, haven't had a problem yet- so far it seems pretty solid, and looks great.

#7 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

It's a fact, that from a technical aspect, cracks and fileshare games (as software) blow the DRM-ridden, activation-hoops-filled, registration-requiring out-of-the-box retail games. 
 
I'm not condoning piracy, you're asking "WTF", I'm saying it totally makes sense because that's how it is, pirated software works better and runs better than legitimate software. My game is being shipped as we speak, but if it gives me shit when it arrives I won't hesitate to get the superior EXE and play the damn game I've payed for and am unable to access. 
 
Social Club my ass.

#8 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

Other than that, Max Payne 3 on PC is pretty much a perfect, beautiful action game. Now if only these cutscenes weren't pre-rendered...

#9 Edited by zaglis (909 posts) -

So, as we are speaking about the quality of the port. I am so glad I didn't pre-(purchase) the game.
 
The mouse controls suck dick. They are accelerated to hell, the mouse sensitivity settings are a disaster and, THE BEST PART, when you enter bullet time the mouse slows down to a crawl, making  it impossible to aim. Meaning you have to avoid using bullet time...in Max Payne.

#10 Posted by Nilazz (607 posts) -

@Klei: The cutscenes are pre-rendered? :O

#11 Posted by FritzDude (2253 posts) -

Have you tried to run the game as admin or turned off the UAC in windows?

#12 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

@zaglis said:

So, as we are speaking about the quality of the port. I am so glad I didn't pre-(purchase) the game. The mouse controls suck dick. They are accelerated to hell, the mouse sensitivity settings are a disaster and, THE BEST PART, when you enter bullet time the mouse slows down to a crawl, making it impossible to aim. Meaning you have to avoid using bullet time...in Max Payne.

I'm a sucker for mouse controls, and the sensitivity here is fine. The acceleration too. Devs said multiple time that the mouse acceleration is linked to what weapon Max carries. Want perfect acceleration? Drop that 2-hand weapon you're carrying off-hand and use one pistol with both hands. As for the bullet time, its slow because it is chained to Max's slowy-behaviour during the effect. It doesn't make you avoid Bullet Time, it's just to make it more credible.

#13 Posted by The_Nubster (2053 posts) -

As long as you paid for the game, you have no moral obligations to use those discs. Rockstar got their money, you deserve to get your game.

#14 Posted by Old_Corncob (134 posts) -

I have had to do the same thing more times that I would like to admit.

Sometimes the game won't just fucking play.

So go get a torrent, download a crack, whatever. And Viola! you can play the game you bought.

Makes me wonder why I bought the game in the first place....................

#15 Posted by zaglis (909 posts) -
@Klei
 
Sorry, no. But that is a horse shit excuse and you know it.  ''Credible'' , ''bullet time'' and ''realism''? Unless you are Arma, you can go and fuck off. At the end of the day, your game has piece of shit mouse controls and your game is not fun to play. I almost pre-ordered it (if it wasn't for the 60$) just because Max Payne 1 and 2 had such an excellent mouse control.

So, at this state, I wouldn't even pick MP3 up for 5$.
#16 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@zaglis said:
@Klei:   Sorry, no. But that is a horse shit excuse and you know it.  ''Credible'' , ''bullet time'' and ''realism''? Unless you are Arma, you can go and fuck off. At the end of the day, your game has piece of shit mouse controls and your game is not fun to play. I almost pre-ordered it (if it wasn't for the 60$) just because Max Payne 1 and 2 had such an excellent mouse control.So, at this state, I wouldn't even pick MP3 up for 5$.
Well my game was just dispatched so I'll refrain from asking and just hope for the best ;O
#17 Posted by KillyDarko (1888 posts) -
@The_Nubster said:

As long as you paid for the game, you have no moral obligations to use those discs. Rockstar got their money, you deserve to get your game.

This man speaks the truth. I bought Assassin's Creed 2 back in the day, but then eventually decided to crack the shit out of it cause fuck always-on DRM. Also, my internet connection isn't exactly the most stable thing ever :(
#18 Posted by VooDooPC (313 posts) -

@Klei said:

Other than that, Max Payne 3 on PC is pretty much a perfect, beautiful action game. Now if only these cutscenes weren't pre-rendered...

The cut scenes aren't pre-rendered. I can hear my video card fan speeding up during the cut scenes, if they were pre-rendered my video card would be cooling down, not getting hotter.

#19 Posted by Subjugation (4718 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

Im not going to say its your fault for buying a Rockstar PC port, but thats what happens when you buy a Rockstar PC port.

@zaglis said:

So, as we are speaking about the quality of the port. I am so glad I didn't pre-(purchase) the game. The mouse controls suck dick. They are accelerated to hell, the mouse sensitivity settings are a disaster and, THE BEST PART, when you enter bullet time the mouse slows down to a crawl, making it impossible to aim. Meaning you have to avoid using bullet time...in Max Payne.

I have no idea what you guys are complaining about. Rockstar actually did a great job with the PC version of the game this time around, and the mouse controls are fine. Just bump sensitivity in whichever direction you please.

Anyway, I was expecting this to absolutely chug like GTA IV but it runs like butter maxed out ("maxed" out harharhar). The "awful Rockstar PC ports" stigma does not apply here. This is a solid version of the game and they deserve credit.

#20 Posted by Jayesslee (105 posts) -

I've installed and played the entire game, no problems.

#21 Edited by harinosho (593 posts) -

It's pretty dumb to have to do this, but if it allows me to lay the game, I will have to do it and I guess I will do this in the future if the games I buy are giving me shit.This whole anti-pirating gig is just making glad their are pirates that can overcome this problem.

#22 Posted by sate2801 (344 posts) -

@Jayesslee said:

I've installed and played the entire game, no problems.

doesn't mean others don't have the problem

#23 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -
@AhmadMetallic: Dude, piracy is wrong, and you shouldn't condone it.
#24 Posted by AlisterCat (5484 posts) -

@Nilazz said:

@Klei: The cutscenes are pre-rendered? :O

Unfortunately, yes. In engine, but still video.

#25 Posted by hoossy (932 posts) -

@harinosho:

Bigger question... how does it look!?

#26 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@TheDudeOfGaming said:
@AhmadMetallic: Dude, piracy is wrong, and you shouldn't condone it.
Since I didn't condone it and we're somewhat of forum buddies, I think you're only joking, but I wish you didn't because I almost got banned for condoning it in the past.  
To be clear, all I said was that fileshare software is easier to work and handle than legitimate software, tech-wise, which is simply a response to the OP's surprise.  
 
Yup, being in fear of getting banned from my favorite website is real fun :/
#27 Posted by harinosho (593 posts) -

@hoossy said:

@harinosho:

Bigger question... how does it look!?

Looks insanely beautiful, most of my settings on max, only thing i set medium is shadows and AA is off (I dont really like the blur). the water effects, the visuals... all done in 60 frames a second? It's like jesus said "wake the fuck up and look at this".. @AhmadMetallic said:

@TheDudeOfGaming said:
@AhmadMetallic: Dude, piracy is wrong, and you shouldn't condone it.
Since I didn't condone it and we're somewhat of forum buddies, I think you're only joking, but I wish you didn't because I almost got banned for condoning it in the past. To be clear, all I said was that fileshare software is easier to work and handle than legitimate software, tech-wise, which is simply a response to the OP's surprise. Yup, being in fear of getting banned from my favorite website is real fun :/

You get banned for something like that? That doesn't seem right..

#28 Posted by Subbeh (90 posts) -

I'm in the exact same boat as the OP. Spent over two hours trying to get my retail version running, cracked it and it was fine.

Unfortunately that doesnt allow me to enter my key and play legitimately so I guess I'll uninstall and hope they fix this pretty

soon.

#29 Posted by Dad_Is_A_Zombie (1225 posts) -

I'm a huge Rockstar fan but yeah... they don't do the PC very well.

#30 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

I assume the retail version ships with extra drm that the Steam version doesn't

#31 Edited by onarum (2018 posts) -

Yeah the steam version is working flawlessly for me, the only draw was to download freaking 30 GB...

Can you punch your cd-key on steam and use that instead?

#32 Posted by Zidd (1838 posts) -

I had a problem with game activation via the social club I found that waiting until the popup for the social club was on screen before I pressed anything made everything work properly. I'd rather they just use steamworks but they have their own crap to push on you just like EA and Ubisoft do.

#33 Posted by iAmJohn (6110 posts) -

@zaglis said:

@Klei: Sorry, no. But that is a horse shit excuse and you know it. ''Credible'' , ''bullet time'' and ''realism''? Unless you are Arma, you can go and fuck off. At the end of the day, your game has piece of shit mouse controls and your game is not fun to play. I almost pre-ordered it (if it wasn't for the 60$) just because Max Payne 1 and 2 had such an excellent mouse control.So, at this state, I wouldn't even pick MP3 up for 5$.

The mouse controls are fine, stop being a pussy.

#34 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@mosdl said:

I assume the retail version ships with extra drm that the Steam version doesn't

Well that's just GREAT!
#35 Edited by zaglis (909 posts) -
@iAmJohn
You ignorant twat. Just because you don't know any better doesn't mean the mouse controls are fine. If I wanted to play my games with shitty controls, I would play my games with a controller.
#36 Edited by Klei (1768 posts) -

@zaglis said:

@Klei: Sorry, no. But that is a horse shit excuse and you know it. ''Credible'' , ''bullet time'' and ''realism''? Unless you are Arma, you can go and fuck off. At the end of the day, your game has piece of shit mouse controls and your game is not fun to play. I almost pre-ordered it (if it wasn't for the 60$) just because Max Payne 1 and 2 had such an excellent mouse control.So, at this state, I wouldn't even pick MP3 up for 5$.

Why exactly did you need to be super aggressive when I answered to you in a totally civilized manner? I'm sorry, but if you didn't figured out yet that Rockstar tried a REALISTIC approach to Max Payne, then I don't know what to tell you. And yes, realistic. Credible movements, credible storyline, credible firefights. That's why you now use cover to take a breather and analyze where you're going to shootdodge next. Motion captured movement, realistic physical behavior, realistic gun behavior and all that. On top of that, they kept the shootdodge, which has also been motion captured. Mouse controls are fine, they respond to the character's movement. No, it's not super arcady like MP1 and 2 but I think it was pretty clear from the numerous videos we've had that it wasn't going to be alike.

Other than the shootdodge thingy, Max Payne 3 has one of the most realistic gunplay and gunfights seen in a non-military action game.

I don't know why I had to explain all this to you, really. You hate the game, fine, I'm sorry you spent your money on this, but then again, that's not my problem. You should have seen it coming.

#37 Posted by iAmJohn (6110 posts) -

@zaglis said:

@iAmJohn: You ignorant twat. Just because you don't know any better doesn't mean the mouse controls are fine. If I wanted to play my games with shitty controls, I would play my games with a controller.

Ahahahaha u mad bro? Cry some more, you whiny fucking idiot.

#38 Edited by zaglis (909 posts) -
@iAmJohn
 
Damn. ''u mad bro'' always wins any argument ever.
 

@Klei


Making the mouse controls accelerated and unresponsive on purpose doesn't make the game fun or realistic. It is fucking retarded. 
I was expecting top quality port with tight, 1:1 mouse controls, instead I get this unplayable mess.
#39 Posted by Feikken (221 posts) -
@zaglis
@iAmJohn
You ignorant twat. Just because you don't know any better doesn't mean the mouse controls are fine. If I wanted to play my games with shitty controls, I would play my games with a controller.
0 mouse problems here. Did you forget to adjust your settings?

Oh and you should stop talking out of your ass.
#40 Edited by Funzzo (834 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

Im not going to say its your fault for buying a Rockstar PC port, but thats what happens when you buy a Rockstar PC port.

Ok some people are having problems with this game so it must be because its a shitty rockstar PC port right? Well no thats bullshit I have a fairly old system with a good gpu and I have had no problems at all running this maxed out at 60 FPS. People blaming it on the fact that its a rockstar port need to shut the fuck up already.

@Robot_Moses said:

It was the same story with the PC port of L.A. Noire. Game would never get past the menu screen/opening for me and lots of other folks until cracked. That's sadly how Rockstar's PC ports are.

Another game I had no problem running on my old system. I didnt think the PC version of L.A Noire was all that bad. Its not like rockstar PC games are the only games that have problems on day one and need to be patched.

#41 Posted by Funzzo (834 posts) -

@zaglis said:

So, as we are speaking about the quality of the port. I am so glad I didn't pre-(purchase) the game. The mouse controls suck dick. They are accelerated to hell, the mouse sensitivity settings are a disaster and, THE BEST PART, when you enter bullet time the mouse slows down to a crawl, making it impossible to aim. Meaning you have to avoid using bullet time...in Max Payne.

Have you even tried changing the mouse controls. And your glad you didnt pre-purchase the game? So what you didnt pre-purchase it but you bought it anyway and now you dont like the way it controls? Are you just going off of shit you have heard about it or do you own it or what?

#42 Posted by Robot_Moses (110 posts) -

@Funzzo: You should probably consider yourself lucky, then. The past three Rockstar games for PC have been kinda busted for lots of people. Non-Steam versions of L.A. Noire are still notoriously difficult to log into because of the Social Club nonsense and it looks like the same story for Max Payne 3. The fact that there's other publishers than Rockstar that pass off bad PC port jobs as acceptable(*cough* THQ *cough*) doesn't make it okay for them to poopoo on their paying fans like this, especially when you consider that these are kinda the exact same problems GTAIV had on PC.

#43 Posted by Funzzo (834 posts) -

@Robot_Moses said:

@Funzzo: You should probably consider yourself lucky, then. The past three Rockstar games for PC have been kinda busted for lots of people. Non-Steam versions of L.A. Noire are still notoriously difficult to log into because of the Social Club nonsense and it looks like the same story for Max Payne 3. The fact that there's other publishers than Rockstar that pass off bad PC port jobs as acceptable(*cough* THQ *cough*) doesn't make it okay for them to poopoo on their paying fans like this, especially when you consider that these are kinda the exact same problems GTAIV had on PC.

Yes we all know the PC version of GTA4 was crap but people need to get over that and stop with all the "Well GTA4 port was crap so all Rockstar Pc games afre gunna suck" argument. Also I should say I am using the steam version of both LA Noire and Max Payne 3. Also I have had no problems with rockstars social club.

#44 Posted by Robot_Moses (110 posts) -

@Funzzo: The GTAIV port was bad, but then so were the non-Steam ports of L.A. Noire and now Max Payne 3. The Steam versions never had the login issues we are talking about, friend.

#45 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

@zaglis said:

So, as we are speaking about the quality of the port. I am so glad I didn't pre-(purchase) the game. The mouse controls suck dick. They are accelerated to hell, the mouse sensitivity settings are a disaster and, THE BEST PART, when you enter bullet time the mouse slows down to a crawl, making it impossible to aim. Meaning you have to avoid using bullet time...in Max Payne.

If you didn't buy the game...how do you know what the controls are like? Also, I just finished the game and had absolutely no problems with the controls. Smooth and precise as one could wish for.

#46 Posted by BigChickenDinner (766 posts) -

When he said "crack the game" my first thought was he snapped the disc a little bit....

.....maybe a little toothpaste.

#47 Posted by mr_ace (54 posts) -

i can't speak to the quality of the port, i'm sure it's great, but just like op, my game is completely bricked.

I've tried all their suggested fixes, but none of it works. If they don't bring out a fix in the next few days, I'm going to do the same and crack it

#48 Posted by Funzzo (834 posts) -

@Robot_Moses said:

@Funzzo: The GTAIV port was bad, but then so were the non-Steam ports of L.A. Noire and now Max Payne 3. The Steam versions never had the login issues we are talking about, friend.

Sucks to hear that. Can the retail game be activated on steam? maybe it fixes the problem?

#49 Edited by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

Not to put ALL the blame on the consumer but yeah, should have expected that with a Rockstar PC port, also you bought a PC game at retail, both of those things are very, very wrong.

I just wish they didn't suck so bad at PC ports. Vice City and San Andreas weren't awful.

#50 Posted by Subbeh (90 posts) -

LA Noire, the GTA games and Bully all ran great for me so Ive got no problem with Rockstar and their PC ports.

Whats really annoying me about this particular issue is that if I was a pirate I could be happily playing the game right now!

I cracked it, it worked (uninstalled to wait for a proper fix) and so the problem would seem to be with either the DRM or Socialclub, both of which the crack seems to take care of.

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