@Yummylee said:
@Sackmanjones said:
I've been trying to play them. They are very fun but definitely challenging. Honestly when Ryan said max is my fragile in 3, he clearly hasn't played the first one in awhile. Anyway I didn't finish em and still enjoyed Max Patne 3 immensely. From what I saw of 3 and what I've played of 1 there are just a few hooks that will grab you of you played the original. 3 is completely is own story so don't worry about it.
This here sums it all up pretty nicely. Also yeah, I agree about Ryan's ignorance concerning how consistently weak to... bullets... Max has been across the series. I seem to remember my time in Max Payne 2 being filled with a lot of improvisational cover-taking and the like. I think that was all glossed over because of how long it had no doubt been since Ryan played it, and since Max Payne is primarily known for its bullet time and shootdodging, that's all that apparently stuck in his mind when he thinks back.
Which is a shame, because while of all the issues he may have had with the different style and tone are just, his, and along with Patrick's, complaints concerning the gameplay are rather unfair. I can't wait to hear why Vinny of all people is also apparently super-down on the game, too.
The GB crew's coverage of the game has been pretty piss poor. Like you said, Max is extremely fragile in the first two, getting one-shotted from 30m away with a shotgun and the like. There's also Jeff saying that Max Payne should be all shootdodge all the time. If he really played the second one like that he played it wrong. With bullet time recharging over time and time slowing down a bit more with each kill, using regular bullet time was absolutely necessary in a lot of cases and more importantly fun! And just because there' wasn't an actual cover mechanic doesn't mean you were not using cover. Patrick is just being Patrick, aka "i didn't play it but its trash" type of comments he regularly throws around.
At least Vinny is always more reasonable and probably has good reasons why he doesn't like it. He's usually more considerate and better informed in his comments. Probably because he plays far fewer games and is a completionist with the one he plays.
And to answer the OP's question. Max Payne 1 and 2 are great games that still hold up today but are not necessary to understand what's going on in 3. You'll get why Max is so messed up but you could just go and read the story on wikipedia for that, Max Payne 3 has a self contained story that doesn't reference the first 2 too much.
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