That ex cop is everywhere! .. Wait(spoilers)

#1 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

That ex cop guy shows up multiple times throughout the game in obscure places, what are the chances of that? Do you think rockstar is doing that same thing they did in RDR and that cop isn't actually real, and he's a figment of maxs

#2 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Imagination of how max wanted his life to turn out

#3 Posted by hbkdx12 (779 posts) -

I don't think he's a figment of his imagination but im sure he's suppose to symbolize the kind of life he could have had it max payne hadn't been max payne

#4 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

Who?

#5 Posted by hbkdx12 (779 posts) -
@Napalm: There's an ex-cop you run into 3 times during the game. Finding/talking to him counts as a clue. So if you were diligent in looking for clues you might've come across him
#6 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Napalm

Who?

There's an ex cop in a couple spots that talks about how he's a retired cop and settled down with his family.
#7 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

@hbkdx12: Where is he beside the club bathroom? I thought that was a one-off encounter.

#8 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Napalm

@hbkdx12: Where is he beside the club bathroom? I thought that was a one-off encounter.

Is in the favelas and an airport.
#9 Edited by Napalm (9020 posts) -

@CL60: Does he just keep talking about how awesome his family is?

in north dakooooooooootaaaaaa

#10 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Napalm

@CL60: Does he just keep talking about how awesome his family is?

in north dakooooooooootaaaaaa

Yes.
#11 Posted by hbkdx12 (779 posts) -
@Napalm said:

@hbkdx12: Where is he beside the club bathroom? I thought that was a one-off encounter.

Some shop in the favela right before you enter the bar and hidden in another bathroom stall in the airport
 
@Napalm said:

@CL60: Does he just keep talking about how awesome his family is?

in north dakooooooooootaaaaaa

More or less
#12 Posted by AjayRaz (12389 posts) -

i hope that guy made it out of there. out of all the messed up shit going on in that game, he was a delightful person to see.

#13 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4969 posts) -

Yep. The dude is not real -- all in Max's mind. At least that'd be awesome if our theory is true.

#14 Posted by RedRoach (1158 posts) -

A retired cop with a family who doesn't feel the need to be a hero? Also, his daughter is in college, wouldn't Max's daughter be that age if she had survived?

#15 Posted by hbkdx12 (779 posts) -
@Jason_Bourne: I'm not sure what the time line is on these games but his daughter died when she was 6 months old so if she were to be in college that would suggest these 3 games take place over a course of at least 18 years. Don't think it's been that long. but i could be wrong
#16 Posted by familyphotoshoot (651 posts) -

It's been a long time since I played RDR. Who didn't actually exist? Are you talking about the guy that was implied to be Death/Satan?

#17 Posted by AjayRaz (12389 posts) -

@hbkdx12 said:

@Jason_Bourne: I'm not sure what the time line is on these games but his daughter died when she was 6 months old so if she were to be in college that would suggest these 3 games take place over a course of at least 18 years. Don't think it's been that long. but i could be wrong

she died in '98 i think? if the game takes place in 2012 then she wouldn't be in college

#18 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5120 posts) -

Oh cool, I found him in the club and the in the favela but had no idea he was in the airport.

You can also find the creepy dude that was in the brothel being held in a jail cell at the police station later on.

#19 Posted by deathstriker666 (1337 posts) -

@CL60 said:

Imagination of how max wanted his life to turn out

Sounds about right

#20 Posted by Ghostiet (5153 posts) -

I don't think he's just a figment of his imagination, but he's definitely symbolizing the life Max could have.

On a side note, I absolutely love the fact that Max stops him from showing a photo of his kids, probably thinking along the lines of  "don't do that, because if you die, this is going to be awkward".

#21 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

My phone decided it wanted to post before I was finished typing if anybody is wondering what happened there. I planned on typing more stuff.

#22 Posted by Johacamigames (23 posts) -

I think he's real lol, just a coincidence really

#23 Posted by Quarters (1547 posts) -

Yeah, I liked the scenes with the cop. Good symbolism. Didn't even find the second and third moments on my first playthrough.

#24 Posted by bwmcmaste (830 posts) -

@Jason_Bourne said:

A retired cop with a family who doesn't feel the need to be a hero? Also, his daughter is in college, wouldn't Max's daughter be that age if she had survived?

Also, he and his wife operate a charitable organization in the slums.

An interesting foil for Max's character, to be sure.

#25 Posted by DharmaBum (1060 posts) -

Just found a creepy guy hiding under a bed right before you exit the favela brothel. Sadly, they don't give you a chance to kill him.

#26 Posted by Hizang (8534 posts) -

I met him twice, I never met him in the airport.

#27 Posted by UberExplodey (904 posts) -

@Lebensbaum: Just wait.

#28 Edited by DharmaBum (1060 posts) -

@UberExplodey: Oh snap... must be another clue I missed in the third act.

#29 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@Lebensbaum

@UberExplodey: Oh man, you better not be kidding... must be another clue I missed in the third act.

Dudes in a jail cell and you can shoot his face off.
#30 Posted by kuz101 (208 posts) -

I think I can confirm that the ex-cop isn't real. After the third time you meet him in the airport you can reenter the stall he is hiding in and he isn't there.

#31 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -
@bwmcmaste said:

@Jason_Bourne said:

A retired cop with a family who doesn't feel the need to be a hero? Also, his daughter is in college, wouldn't Max's daughter be that age if she had survived?

Also, he and his wife operate a charitable organization in the slums.

An interesting foil for Max's character, to be sure.

No. Giovanna operates the charitable organization. The wife of the ex-cop just said to him that he should do something with his life and he was helping with the organization.
#32 Posted by Jangowuzhere (70 posts) -

It really doesn't matter if he is real or not. The effect of the symbolism would be the same.

#33 Posted by Nixisia (5 posts) -

While it doesn't matter if he is real or not in terms of the symbolism it provides (besides being that, if not real, it illustrates how deep Max's desire for a different life may be), I did find something interesting about The Ex-Cop and his 'realness'. The final time in the game you meet him is in an airport's bathroom stall. You have a conversation about the ex-cop's daughter and how she is waiting in a plane (oddly, he seems unconcerned for her safety). After the conversation The Ex-Cop shuts the stall door and you can continue on your way. However, I accidentally turned around and ran into the stall door; It opens. Inside? No one. It's empty. Is this an oversight on Rockstar's part or a clever indication that The Ex-Cop is simply a figment of Max's deep subconscious desires?

#34 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

@nixisia: Replying to a thread that is 1 year and 5 months old... Come on, son...

#35 Posted by DeF (4692 posts) -

I read ex-cop but my brain immediately goes to Axe Cop.

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