"Jack The Ripper" Trailer.

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#1 Posted by Sanious (793 posts) -

Really, really cool. Looking forward to this a lot and the demo comes out for both PSN/Xbox 360 on the 22nd if you're one of the very few people (like me) who hasn't played it.

#2 Posted by Yummylee (21475 posts) -

7 minutes? Now that's a damn Metal Gear trailer. Still can't stand the gruffer voice for Raiden, but the gameplay looks pretty cool all the same. With this, DmC, and Anarchy Reigns before it, it's already shaping up to be a fine year for character-action games.

#3 Edited by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

I still think it looks like trash. Every screen/video has demoed sparse, limited-pallet areas... and in 2013 I just can't abide that.

#4 Posted by Sanious (793 posts) -

@Yummylee said:

7 minutes? Now that's a damn Metal Gear trailer. Still can't stand the gruffer voice for Raiden, but the gameplay looks pretty cool all the same. With this, DmC, and Anarchy Reigns before it, it's already shaping up to be a fine year for character-action games.

Yep.

And yeah the voice in the very beginning really bugged me. I like his normal voice, though.

I haven't even finished with Anarchy Reigns yet and probably won't be for quite sometime. Picking up DmC today and have Rising on reserve. I am really pumped to play and put more times into these games. So far AR pleases me.

@GetEveryone said:

I still think it looks like trash. Every screen/video has demoed sparse, limited-pallet areas... and in 2013 I just can't abide that.

Eh, I think the game looks fine. I'll live with it considering the game play looks completely boss to me. Which I am sure it will be considering it is P* games anyway.

#5 Posted by Vitor (2815 posts) -

Who's that Gilbert Gottfriend sounding mother-fcker at the start? Sounds terrible, thankfully he reverts to normal soon enough.

Really wish this was still coming out on PC....

#6 Posted by GunstarRed (5103 posts) -

Cyber-Raiden driving a car is both the dumbest and greatest thing ever.

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#7 Posted by Yummylee (21475 posts) -

@GunstarRed said:

Cyber-Raiden driving a car is both the dumbest and greatest thing ever.

I can't not imagine a legit, white-collar Cyborg Raiden discussing the increased tax payment for nanomachines at the water-cooler or something.

#8 Posted by Daneian (1226 posts) -

I am really looking forward to the combat but I really hate the new turn Raiden's personality has taken and the bullshit cynicism of world they're showing off. Just comes off as stupid and mean spirited.

#9 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

@Sanious said:

@GetEveryone said:

I still think it looks like trash. Every screen/video has demoed sparse, limited-pallet areas... and in 2013 I just can't abide that.

Eh, I think the game looks fine. I'll live with it considering the game play looks completely boss to me. Which I am sure it will be considering it is P* games anyway.

I'll never understand this. A decent system doesn't make up for something utterly bland, as far as I'm concerned.

Each to their own, though. I'm sure the combat will be great, I just couldn't care less given the rest of the package.

#10 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

"Cutting soon"

Yes.

#11 Posted by Yummylee (21475 posts) -

@Daneian said:

I am really looking forward to the combat but I really hate the new turn Raiden's personality has taken and the bullshit cynicism of world they're showing off. Just comes off as stupid and mean spirited.

I agree with you about Raiden, but then I never liked him all that much in MGS4, either. I just don't think Quinton Flynn has the sort of voice that can suit some sort of all-powerful badass, and whenever he tries to gravel it up David Hayter style, it just sounds so terribly forced.

#12 Posted by Blimble (302 posts) -

Not sure about this any more. The combat looked a bit simple and easy but that might have just been on an easy setting. Raiden going that insane and sounding like a robo-pirate is also weird. Wasn't he going to stay at home and be a family man after 4?

Lost a bit of faith in this game even though it is platinum making it

#13 Posted by IBurningStar (2161 posts) -

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

#14 Posted by Sanious (793 posts) -

@GetEveryone said:

@Sanious said:

@GetEveryone said:

I still think it looks like trash. Every screen/video has demoed sparse, limited-pallet areas... and in 2013 I just can't abide that.

Eh, I think the game looks fine. I'll live with it considering the game play looks completely boss to me. Which I am sure it will be considering it is P* games anyway.

I'll never understand this. A decent system doesn't make up for something utterly bland, as far as I'm concerned.

Each to their own, though. I'm sure the combat will be great, I just couldn't care less given the rest of the package.

I didn't say it did make up for it. I don't think it looks as bad as you or that it is something that is that detrimental that it will affect my enjoyment of the game is all.

#15 Posted by Hizang (8533 posts) -
@IBurningStar

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

I take it you never saw any Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer?
#16 Posted by Wrighteous86 (3780 posts) -

@Hizang said:

@IBurningStar

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

I take it you never saw any Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer?

Didn't all of the MGS4 Trailers take scenes from Act 1, the first fifth of the game?

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#17 Posted by Humanity (9023 posts) -

I wish someone tweeted Hideo Kojima and asked him what he thought of this trailer and he would reply with an @ for Kamiya "eh whatever" so we can come around full circle

#18 Posted by ProfessorK (821 posts) -

So it's Raiden with PTSD? Alright Platinum, show me whatcha got.

#19 Posted by Hizang (8533 posts) -
@Wrighteous86

@Hizang said:

@IBurningStar

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

I take it you never saw any Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer?

Didn't all of the MGS4 Trailers take scenes from Act 1, the first fifth of the game?

No, only the very early ones, there are some that show MGS Rex Vs MGS Ray, Tons of Act II Raide. Stuff, Act 3 shit going down etc.
#20 Posted by Demoskinos (14730 posts) -

I'm not terribly impressed by this honestly....and I suppose that is the point of the trailer but it makes Raiden just look like a goddamn psychopath rather than a hero. I suppose I should reserve final judgement on if I'm going to purchase this or Tomb Raider for when the demo arrives however. I'm just really digging what Tomb Raider is doing more at this point.

#21 Posted by Nottle (1912 posts) -

@Yummylee said:

@Daneian said:

I am really looking forward to the combat but I really hate the new turn Raiden's personality has taken and the bullshit cynicism of world they're showing off. Just comes off as stupid and mean spirited.

I agree with you about Raiden, but then I never liked him all that much in MGS4, either. I just don't think Quinton Flynn has the sort of voice that can suit some sort of all-powerful badass, and whenever he tries to gravel it up David Hayter style, it just sounds so terribly forced.

Yeah it's kind of weird. In MGS2 Raiden's character arc seemed to suggest that he'd just go home and stop trying to play soldier or at least he'd stop treating everything like a game. He'd become his own person and put the past behind him. MGS4 sort of crapped on that but he at least seemed to have some sort of arc there when he again stopped being lied to and put the past behind him. Now he just seems crazy which could be interesting if there was some sort of twist to it. What if this game was all VR or something?

#22 Posted by Wrighteous86 (3780 posts) -

@Hizang said:

@Wrighteous86

@Hizang said:

@IBurningStar

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

I take it you never saw any Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer?

Didn't all of the MGS4 Trailers take scenes from Act 1, the first fifth of the game?

No, only the very early ones, there are some that show MGS Rex Vs MGS Ray, Tons of Act II Raide. Stuff, Act 3 shit going down etc.

Really? That's CRAZY. They should've kept the Rex/Ray fight hidden at least.

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#23 Posted by TheHT (11099 posts) -

Psychotic Child Soldier Personality GO!

#24 Posted by probablytuna (3603 posts) -

Can he not take that suit of armour off? Or is this what his body is made up of now? Looks incredibly weird seeing him drive a car in that suit.

#25 Posted by IBurningStar (2161 posts) -

@Wrighteous86 said:

@Hizang said:

@Wrighteous86

@Hizang said:

@IBurningStar

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

I take it you never saw any Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer?

Didn't all of the MGS4 Trailers take scenes from Act 1, the first fifth of the game?

No, only the very early ones, there are some that show MGS Rex Vs MGS Ray, Tons of Act II Raide. Stuff, Act 3 shit going down etc.

Really? That's CRAZY. They should've kept the Rex/Ray fight hidden at least.

I don't remember any of those trailers. Apparently I must have missed them or something, because the first time I saw Rex vs Ray was when I got to it in game.

#26 Posted by Ghostiet (5242 posts) -
@Nottle
He's a child soldier. I could see him having permanent PTSD right now, especially since he's essentially robbed from a normal life, since the only non-cybernetic part of his body is his head above his upper lip minus an eye.
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#27 Edited by leinad44 (506 posts) -

'Platinum Games'

That is all we need to know! Don't worry. They've got this!

#28 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -

"Deadly force is authorized"

*Puts away gun and takes out stick*

#29 Posted by Cronus42 (275 posts) -

@probablytuna: Hes a robot. At some point in MGS they literally took off his head minus the lower jaw and put it on that robo body.

Now that just makes me want to see him have multiple bodys for different uses though. Oh going out to dinner? Better put my head on my suavest looking robot first.

#30 Posted by Nottle (1912 posts) -

@Ghostiet said:

@Nottle: He's a child soldier. I could see him having permanent PTSD right now, especially since he's essentially robbed from a normal life, since the only non-cybernetic part of his body is his head above his upper lip minus an eye.

Yes, but in MGS2 the idea of killing being enjoyable was something Riden feared. It's mentioned a few times to Rose and Snake. In MGS4 he was cold and cynical but by the end he was with his family again. I'm just wondering how they undo some of his character development or what pushed him over the edge. Because in MGS4 he had the robot body but didn't seem quite evil, just depressed.

#31 Posted by Lucifer (263 posts) -

I understand where they are going with this "losing his mind" much in the same vain as Gray Fox, and it is a nice connection, digging deeper into the trade-off's of becoming a cyborg, but the fact that this game seems to clash somewhat with the ending to 4 and that awful gruff voice really puts me off.

#32 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

I didn't really care about Revengeance before this trailer.

NOW I NEED IT TO LIVE.

HE IS A ROBOT MAN COMMUTING TO WORK IN HIS HYBRID VEHICLE AND THEN HE CUTS POLICE OFFICERS IN HALF WITH HIS FOOT KATANA.

THIS IS WHAT VIDEO GAMES NEEDED.

#33 Posted by 49th (2722 posts) -

Think the gameplay looks great but seeing ridiculous cyborg monstrosity Raiden driving the most normal car was just hilarious. The whole car chase was kind of dumb really.

#34 Posted by Sanious (793 posts) -

@Nottle said:

@Yummylee said:

@Daneian said:

I am really looking forward to the combat but I really hate the new turn Raiden's personality has taken and the bullshit cynicism of world they're showing off. Just comes off as stupid and mean spirited.

I agree with you about Raiden, but then I never liked him all that much in MGS4, either. I just don't think Quinton Flynn has the sort of voice that can suit some sort of all-powerful badass, and whenever he tries to gravel it up David Hayter style, it just sounds so terribly forced.

Yeah it's kind of weird. In MGS2 Raiden's character arc seemed to suggest that he'd just go home and stop trying to play soldier or at least he'd stop treating everything like a game. He'd become his own person and put the past behind him. MGS4 sort of crapped on that but he at least seemed to have some sort of arc there when he again stopped being lied to and put the past behind him. Now he just seems crazy which could be interesting if there was some sort of twist to it. What if this game was all VR or something?

Some people would think that would be a cop out probably, but honestly if done well that could be pretty sick.

#35 Posted by Yummylee (21475 posts) -

@Cronus42 said:

@probablytuna: Hes a robot. At some point in MGS they literally took off his head minus the lower jaw and put it on that robo body.

Now that just makes me want to see him have multiple bodys for different uses though. Oh going out to dinner? Better put my head on my suavest looking robot first.

Oh wow... Now I just imagined how cool/hilarious it would be if you could unlock robotic imitations of bodies from different characters across the game, sorta how like you could unlock different faces in MGS4.

#36 Posted by TooWalrus (13155 posts) -

God damn I want this. Is this thing actually coming to PC? I mean, I know the Wiki says it is, but I haven't heard anything about it.

#37 Posted by Nottle (1912 posts) -

@Sanious said:

@Nottle said:

@Yummylee said:

@Daneian said:

I am really looking forward to the combat but I really hate the new turn Raiden's personality has taken and the bullshit cynicism of world they're showing off. Just comes off as stupid and mean spirited.

I agree with you about Raiden, but then I never liked him all that much in MGS4, either. I just don't think Quinton Flynn has the sort of voice that can suit some sort of all-powerful badass, and whenever he tries to gravel it up David Hayter style, it just sounds so terribly forced.

Yeah it's kind of weird. In MGS2 Raiden's character arc seemed to suggest that he'd just go home and stop trying to play soldier or at least he'd stop treating everything like a game. He'd become his own person and put the past behind him. MGS4 sort of crapped on that but he at least seemed to have some sort of arc there when he again stopped being lied to and put the past behind him. Now he just seems crazy which could be interesting if there was some sort of twist to it. What if this game was all VR or something?

Some people would think that would be a cop out probably, but honestly if done well that could be pretty sick.

3 hours into the game it pulls out and now your playing Phantom Pain. It wasn't Snake in that trailer, it was Raiden. DUN DUN DUNNNN.

#38 Posted by Hizang (8533 posts) -
@IBurningStar

@Wrighteous86 said:

@Hizang said:

@Wrighteous86

@Hizang said:

@IBurningStar

At first I was like, "Why is he talking in this dumb voice?!" Then it revealed that Raiden has apparently lost his mind and is totally crazy now and I was like, "OK, this could be interesting." It is definitely unexpected. I really wish they didn't give away that plot point in a trailer, though. Spoiling anything in a trailer is very un-Metal Gear.

I take it you never saw any Metal Gear Solid 4 Trailer?

Didn't all of the MGS4 Trailers take scenes from Act 1, the first fifth of the game?

No, only the very early ones, there are some that show MGS Rex Vs MGS Ray, Tons of Act II Raide. Stuff, Act 3 shit going down etc.

Really? That's CRAZY. They should've kept the Rex/Ray fight hidden at least.

I don't remember any of those trailers. Apparently I must have missed them or something, because the first time I saw Rex vs Ray was when I got to it in game.

I think it was tge one that was made as if it was a movie trailer, the one that had an announcer say "THIS SUMMER!"
#39 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2216 posts) -

His voice was inconsistent, I wonder if it's because he turns crazy as a result of him being a cyborg at some point in the game.

#40 Posted by Lucifer (263 posts) -

@LordXavierBritish said:

HE IS A ROBOT MAN COMMUTING TO WORK IN HIS HYBRID VEHICLE.

What? His car is a cyborg TOO?

#41 Posted by StarvingGamer (8128 posts) -

@Demoskinos: If you're talking about the premise of Laura's growth from naive girl to confident adventurer, I've heard that entire arc happens during the first hour or so and the rest of the time is spent just mercing fools.

#42 Posted by Nottle (1912 posts) -

@Lucifer said:

@LordXavierBritish said:

HE IS A ROBOT MAN COMMUTING TO WORK IN HIS HYBRID VEHICLE.

What? His car is a cyborg TOO?

HIS CAR IS ROSE. WIFE CAR AKA WAR

#43 Posted by Demoskinos (14730 posts) -
@StarvingGamer Im just ready for another Lara Croft adventure either way. Also, never thought Id say this but the multiplayer looks surprisingly good.
#44 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3189 posts) -

I think the combat looks great.

#45 Posted by BigBoss1911 (2430 posts) -

@probablytuna said:

Can he not take that suit of armour off? Or is this what his body is made up of now? Looks incredibly weird seeing him drive a car in that suit.

He can take it off.

#46 Posted by BlatantNinja23 (930 posts) -

@GunstarRed said:

Cyber-Raiden driving a car is both the dumbest and greatest thing ever.

#47 Posted by DocHaus (1324 posts) -

@Nottle said:

@Lucifer said:

@LordXavierBritish said:

HE IS A ROBOT MAN COMMUTING TO WORK IN HIS HYBRID VEHICLE.

What? His car is a cyborg TOO?

HIS CAR IS ROSE. WIFE CAR AKA WAR

HIS CAR WAS A METAL GEAR ALL ALONG. AND THE FIFTH PATRIOT. BECAUSE NANOMACHINES.

#48 Posted by MURDERSMASH (251 posts) -

Combat looks slick, but holy cow that Jack the Ripper zinger towards the end was beyond awful.

#49 Posted by Wrighteous86 (3780 posts) -

@BigBoss1911 said:

@probablytuna said:

Can he not take that suit of armour off? Or is this what his body is made up of now? Looks incredibly weird seeing him drive a car in that suit.

He can take it off.

Thanks for the reminder of why plot-wise, this game looks like it's going to piss me off. MGS4 concluded Raiden's character arc. He had come to terms with himself, and finally found happiness with the family he always wanted. Revengeance made sense for the character when it was supposed to take place before MGS4. Now it's just like, well fuck it, let's pretend the things he went through in MGS4 just didn't happen.

Obviously I'll withhold judgment until I play the game, but it's definitely something that worries me as someone that actually cares about something as ridiculous as narrative consistency in a stupid series like Metal Gear.

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#50 Posted by Zealousadonis (133 posts) -

Didn't they say this game is non-canon? Raiden's change in personality from the Solid games could be them just deciding "fuck it let's make him crazy because hell yeah"

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