My first MGS experience.

#1 Edited by zombie2011 (4969 posts) -

So i just beat MGS:3 the original shit version, not subsistence the version that has a camera that wasn't designed just to piss you off.    
 
Well i started with this game because it's the first chronologically in the series, as i am told and the best. I really tried to watch the cut-scenes and follow the story, but when Ocelot, i believe thats his name, had a 5 min cut-scene of him just twirling his revolvers i started to get pissed. Also the entire game i thought i was playing as Solid Snake because the guy looked and sounded like him, but when i looked up the story after i beat it, it said  the character was Naked Snake. Who the hell is this and why does he look and sound just like Snake? I'm so confused.  
   
Anyway, my question to you is should i continue with the series? are they all this confusing or did i fuck up by starting with the 3rd first? Also is the camera this bad in all of the games i know they finally fixed the camera in MGS3:S and MGS4, but did they fix it for the updated gamecube version of the original and MGS2:substance. 
  
The game wasn't all bad some of the boss fights weren't bad, the flame thrower guy The Pain was fun, so was Big Boss. Fighting her in a field of flowers was really awesome. Then again some boss' sucked ass like The Fear who jumped from tree to tree was horrible because of the bad camera and shooting, same with The Sniper boss. I'll probably play Subsistence later just for the better controls.

#2 Posted by Gnubberen (762 posts) -

I think you should have started with mgs 1 instead.. since it's always easier to start with an older game and move on to a newer one.. and yes the camera is like in the other games, but it really doesn't matter since you have a radar on your screen.. it became a problem in Snake Eater, since they removed the radar.

#3 Posted by Little_Socrates (5675 posts) -

I started with the second game, then played the first. The game might've been confusing because you thought you were Solid Snake, so I'd suggest playing the first Metal Gear Solid and reading some of the backstory information. Otherwise, you're going to be very disappointed that no, there's not a lot of catch-up work introduced until the later Metal Gear Solid games. XP

#4 Posted by macandcheese (223 posts) -
@zombie2011: you played as Snake the original who was cloned to create Solid Snake, you may know him better as Big Boss, and yes you should continue the series, it would also have made a lot more sense if you had played MGS 1 and 2 first. 
 
Hopefully I'm right since I am not an expert with the MGS series
#5 Edited by Zero_ (1973 posts) -

Your mistake was to start with MGS3 - IMO, it's the best in the series, however you get a lot more enjoyment out of it from playing the previous two. It's not a requirement, sure - my friend played MGS3 without 1 or 2 and it is one of his favourites games of all time, it just wouldn't helped you in liking it a bit more.
 
I think you should continue on - maybe with just 1 though. Judging from what you said, you'd probably like a more succint and sensible story and 1 definitely is the most sensible of the entire series. 2 you might find enjoyable - you certainly won't have the backlash the gaming industry had when the 'twist' was revealed, but it's still a great game with a strange, strange ending. 4 if you do have a PS3, you should consider. Plays a bit more actiony than the others (depending on how you want to play). I wasn't a huge fan of 4, but can appreciate how it tries to fix up 2 badly.
 
On a side note, for me personally in order it's: MGS3 > MGS 1 > MGS4 = MGS2 = MGS:PO (I did quite like PO) > Acid

#6 Posted by LiquidPrince (15856 posts) -

There's a reason why it's called MGS3... It depends on you knowing some of the background story.

#7 Posted by THE_END (466 posts) -
@zombie2011: Dude you should have played the subsistence version it is WAYYYY better than the original.  I beat both versions, but honestly subsistence is a million times better since the camera has been fixed.
 
Also, how did you enjoy the boss battle against me?
#8 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8061 posts) -
@THE_END: You were an asshole at first but once I figured you out you were pretty easy to beat.
#9 Posted by Zero_ (1973 posts) -
@THE_END: I think I got really lucky. I didn't have all that frustration and long as waiting as everyone on the net did, I was able to come behind the End (not sneak upon him) and lay about 10 shot gun rounds on his ass and he died pretty quickly actually.
#10 Posted by Chuggsy (554 posts) -

Question: How is the camera fixed in subsistence? I played the original, because that's the one my friend gave to me. I hated the camera, but I still played through and really enjoyed the game. So how is the camera different?

#11 Posted by zombie2011 (4969 posts) -
@Chuggsy said:
" Question: How is the camera fixed in subsistence? I played the original, because that's the one my friend gave to me. I hated the camera, but I still played through and really enjoyed the game. So how is the camera different? "
I'm pretty sure its more of a 3rd person view, more behind the back where you can move the camera around. 
#12 Posted by Willin (1280 posts) -

Like you I played Metal Gear Solid 3 first and thought it was awesome. I also recently played MGS2 not to long ago and I can tell you the story goes in all kinds of fucking directions.
 
Also the ladder scene from MGS3 is one of the best video game moments ever.

#13 Posted by Scheds (463 posts) -
@Chuggsy: the perspective is more like a traditional 3rd person cam, level to Snake, and you can control it fully with the right stick. It really makes a big difference!
#14 Posted by Chuggsy (554 posts) -
@zombie2011 said:
" @Chuggsy said:
" Question: How is the camera fixed in subsistence? I played the original, because that's the one my friend gave to me. I hated the camera, but I still played through and really enjoyed the game. So how is the camera different? "
I'm pretty sure its more of a 3rd person view, more behind the back where you can move the camera around.  "
Oh, so it's more like MGS4 then? That sounds alot better, I might actually go back and play it that way some time.
#15 Posted by Sabin (18 posts) -
@THE_END: I just turned off the game during your fight.  Came back a couple weeks later and you were dead.
#16 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -

You started with the worst game in the series, besides Metal Gear Fan Service 4. 
 
Stick with 1 & 2.

#17 Posted by Metroid545 (1823 posts) -
@zombie2011: someone has probably already answered this but naked snake is soldi snakes biological father, snake was created from DNA taken from naked snake in his late 50s. Also yes you fucked up bad by playing MGS3 first, while the story is interesting (probably only to people who know snakes story and are finally seeing all the connections between naked snake and solid snake) the game itself was my least favorite MGS
#18 Edited by SJSchmidt93 (4888 posts) -

Naked Snake is Big Boss, the guy who Liquid, Solidus, and Solid Snake were cloned from. 
 
You should definitely continue, considering you started with, in my opinion, the worst game in the main series.

#19 Posted by Mr_Bubbles (174 posts) -
@Emilio said:
" You started with the worst game in the series, besides Metal Gear Fan Service 4.  Stick with 1 & 2. "
Wow dude, just wow. 
 
Metal Gear Solid 4 was the only Metal Gear game I have ever played, but I was able to piece things together and figure out the story as much as I could. Now, Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of, if not the best game I've ever played.
#20 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -
@Mr_Bubbles said:
" @Emilio said:
" You started with the worst game in the series, besides Metal Gear Fan Service 4.  Stick with 1 & 2. "
Wow dude, just wow. 
 
Metal Gear Solid 4 was the only Metal Gear game I have ever played, but I was able to piece things together and figure out the story as much as I could. Now, Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of, if not the best game I've ever played. "
ok.
#21 Posted by Metroid545 (1823 posts) -
@Lights_Up_The_Shaft said:
Also the ladder scene from MGS3 is one of the best video game moments ever. "
I sang along and was sad when I got to the top :(
#22 Posted by Metroid545 (1823 posts) -
@THE_END: HA I killed you while you were outside in your wheel chair so i never had to fight you!
#23 Posted by RaikohBlade (593 posts) -
@Metroid545 said:
" @THE_END: HA I killed you while you were outside in your wheel chair so i never had to fight you! "
But you got struck with the wheel chair in return. Unless you were a boss and dodged it.
#24 Posted by Metroid545 (1823 posts) -
@RaikohBlade said:
" @Metroid545 said:
" @THE_END: HA I killed you while you were outside in your wheel chair so i never had to fight you! "
But you got struck with the wheel chair in return. Unless you were a boss and dodged it. "
look at my avatar, of course I dodged it
#25 Edited by njkfull (2 posts) -
@zombie2011 said:

I'm pretty sure its more of a 3rd person view, more behind the back where you can move the camera around.  "

I think so ! 
 
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#26 Posted by wfolse1 (455 posts) -
@Emilio said:
" You started with the worst game in the series, besides Metal Gear Fan Service 4.  Stick with 1 & 2. "
Psh.  More like the best.  I love all of the main MGS games, but saying that this game is worse than 2?  It simply doesn't compute.  Although, MGS 3 doesn't have the amazing Fortune theme...

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