theres alot of misunderstanding in regards to mgs4 and its exclusivity.

1- there are parts in mgs4 that mock the xbox!
no, there are parts in mgs4 that take the piss out of mgs1 on the ps1.
the otacon part where he says "we dont need to change discs any more we are on the ps3" is aimed at mgs1, and could easily be edited.
look at mgs1 and the twin snakes on the game cube, things were changed for each console


2- mgs2 sold badly on the xbox!
yes it did, but so did all japanese games last gen.
the fact is the the ps3 and xbox are pretty much the exact same console. there is no ps audience and a xbox audience any more. they are targeting the same exact people.
its not like previous generations, where each console had its own market.

3- mgs3 wasnt on the xbox!
neither was re4, dmc1,2,3, but that hasnt stopped the sequels appearing on the console and doing rather well.
also, alot of mgs4 players havnt played previous titles of mgs.

4-mgs4 is to big!
on the ps3 mgs4 reaches 30gb
http://i32.tinypic.com/2b1574.jpg
alot of people appear to be under the impression that its too big for the xbox (even after compression) so lets put it in to perspective by comparing each element of mgs4 to other games.
GAME ENGINE- firstly there is nothing special about mgs4 from a technical level  there is very little new in its engine, kojima said this himself. so no reason to think the engine is any bigger then any game on the xbox
GRAPHICS visually mgs4's graphics are great, but nothing head over heels beyond anything on the xbox has done. also graphics have nothing to do with disc space. you could have 50tbs of space and the size of the textures and models the game has to work with will still be limited by the ram. the xbox and the ps3 have the same size ram
LENGHT OF THE GAME- the size of the game is again nothing impressive. its no bigger then gears of war, it might be a longer game then gears of war, but thats because gears is a fast paced shooter where you run through the levels, unlike mgs4, where you sneak through them.
CUTSCENES- there are 8 hours of cutscenes in mgs4, sadly all of these are ingame (with the exception of some hd video). and from a memory level they are exactly the same as the animations used in past mgs games, simply applied to nicer and prettier models.
AUDIO- the audio in mgs4 is the one shining gem. if a port happened the audio would suffer a quality reduction. sadly i have not ever heard one person praise the audio of mgs4, because the common man can not tell the difference between a mp3 file and a uncompressed high end audio file.

so no, mgs4 could easily be put on one disc, with a reduction in the audio quality.

5- there are apple and sony products in mgs4!
yes there are sony products in mgs4. which would easily be changed, its one days work for a 3d modeler to do that.
and yes there are apple products in mgs4. but so what? clearly people who use this argument have no understanding of business andthe history microsoft and apple have.
steve jobs and bill gates are friends, microsoft was the leading invester in apple for a long long time. microsoft made the biggest order for macs when developing the xbox360, infact all the first xbox360 games where made on macs.

6- kojima said so
when? in the last week, or was it a year ago?
yes kojima said it was exculsive, but so was tekken and dmc4.
kojima has said he is tired of being asked about a 360 port.
there are two possibilties in front of us
A- kojima is not making a 360 port, in which case he would be annoyed by the questions
B- kojima IS making a 360 port, in which case he would not be allowed to mention it until its unveiling.

7- the xbox isnt powerful enough
look at gears, and re5. graphically its poweful enough. also if you have any understanding of what goes in to these machines, you would know that they are basically the same machine. theres little advantage one has over the other.
if you want to believe all the pr nonsense that both companies have put out then fine. but half of that stuff is never true.
and before you mention killzone, let me ask you a question, out of all the big graphic power house ps3 games, do any of them offer offline co op?


to conclude, there is no logical reason that mgs4 wont come to the xbox 360.
if you have any counter points, please post them.

I fail to believe the logic of someone that creates the same thread multiple times!

Oh god. Not this again.

This is an old argument, one pushed on us by Xbox fanboys who can't accept that MGS4 will probably never be on their console. I also think it's worth noting, while your efforts are commendable, your arguments lack structure and cohesion. It's really hard to decipher that jumble of words to form a valid argument.

If you want to play MGS4, buy a PS3

"This is an old argument, one pushed on us by Xbox fanboys who can't accept that MGS4 will probably never be on their console. I also think it's worth noting, while your efforts are commendable, your arguments lack structure and cohesion. It's really hard to decipher that jumble of words to form a valid argument.

Oh, as for that co-op comment at the end, have you played any games splitscreen co-op? Left 4 Dead looks like a Nintedo 64 game in splitscreen. Also every game limits you to two players, not four like the old days. It's a dying trend, no console is powerful enough to handle that anymore.

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E3, its gonna happen, you know it, I know it.

its been a year now since it came out so i've stopped caring, besides mgs4 wont do well on the xbox, most of the people who want it there simply want it so that the ps3 has one less exclusive.

These arguments are extremely flawed.  First of all, no citation is used, and nothing is offered in the way of credentials.  Where do you get these facts?  Especially the technical ones.  You can't say that the PS3 and 360 are the same and offer nothing in the way of reasoning.  I could go on, but I will simply refute through one statement:  The blu-ray disc(PS3) is vastly superior to the 360(DVD).

If you want MGS4 so bad, just buy a fucking PS3.

You can't write, it just comes across as a jumble of uncapitalized words. You do not make any citations. You make a poor argument.

"GRAPHICS visually mgs4's graphics are great, but nothing head over heels beyond anything on the xbox has done."

If they removed 8 hours of cutscenes and replace it with gameplay I'd buy MGS4 on 360.

The Xbox 360 has a larger user base than the PS3. You are poorly informed and your logic is questionable.

I've had MGS4 for nearly a year, the only reason I would want it ever to go to 360 at this stage is for Xbox Live regulations to clean up the mess that is MGO and turn it into a playable game for casual folk. Not that it can't be done disc space is the only "valid" argument against not being technically possible to port the game, and it's bull shit regardless because MGS4 as well as most PS3 games use uncompressed data due to the disc space of Blu-Rays and the ridiculously slow speed of the BD drive on the PS3. Games are not getting bigger because they are on PS3 or Blu-Ray its just old ways didn't have to be used for putting such games on their medium.

The only reason it shouldn't go to 360 now is because its too late, anyone who is hardcore about MGS has already got a PS3. The game would not sell anything like it originally did. This is precisely why MGS2 failed on Xbox which is yet another bull shit reason for saying it shouldn't be ported that people leave out facts for. MGS2 should have released on both consoles at the same time and they would have done fine, Konami waited a year to release it onto the Xbox by that time everyone and their brother had a PS2 and already had MGS2 for a year thats why MGS2 failed on Xbox not because of it being on Xbox. This time around its been a year since MGS4 and while not everyone has a PS3 anyone who was serious about wanting MGS4 has it. It won't sell that well. Yet again had Kojima not been trying to hold onto the past and refused to admit multiplats are the norm this gen for high profile titles not the exception MGS4 would have probably made stacks of cash like GTAIV and CoD4.

Personally I hope the announcement is for a Directors Cut rerelease of 4(probably titled Existance as Konami recently filed for a trademark), if its for both hooray I'll still get it for PS3 probably unless a lot of my 360 friends get it for MGO. MGO could have been so much more had it been integrated into PSN and Konami screwed that up I'd love for them to have a second chance, even if it meant on Xbox Live.

Wow, using incorrect punctuation and grammar really makes you sound smarter.

There was so many things wrong about your post... I can't even... Oh man.

I'm not saying it CAN'T come. But it seems unlikely. Also, if you can't tell the difference between a MP3 and a lossless surround track, you might need hearing aids.

I ignore all information that appears to have been written by a five year old.

I really don't want to watch MGS4, regardless of what console it's on.

I'll just download a screenrip of all the cutscenes from MGS4 off of demonoid or some shit and watch it for free (on my xbox which has divx support).
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im tired of this argument  really but sadly its going to happen ¬_¬  why do xbox people care so much we have an exclusive big f***ing woop i want to  play gears but i cant because its on xbox you want to play metal gear tough because its on playstation ive grown to axcept that i cant play gears 2  among other  xbox games. and as for the its comeing at e3 argument  it would be depressing if the best that Xbox can do  for a announcement is a  year old ps3 game

That's because most people are fucking idiots.

wow, you really are holding on to the smallest of victories.
im just laughing at you now, you are really pathetic. :)