MGS: HD collection not even mentioned in the awards?

#1 Edited by VictoryBlixt (117 posts) -

Am I the only one who was pretty annoyed by the fact that the GB crew didnt even mention the MGS collection in their best HD collection awards, I mean this a really good HD remake, packs a ton of value, and the games themselves are still playable and enjoyable by today's standards not to mention that the HD collection drastically improved one game, Peace Walker, and made that game available on home consoles where it was originally a handheld only game. The MGS HD collection was certainly among the best HD remakes of the year and while I'm not saying it should have won the award necessarily, it seems as though the staff just forgot about it's existence, I mean it certainly warranted discussion, but it wasn't even mentioned

#2 Posted by phrali (646 posts) -

those games did not age well. i played them when i was a kid and loved them and when i played the HD collection, i was like "how did i like this stuff"

couldn't stop cringing. so cheesy.

#3 Posted by VictoryBlixt (117 posts) -

@phrali: i disagree, I never played these games when they were new and enjoyed the games quite a bit. Also the same could be said for Halo: CE's cutscene's as well

#4 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -
@VictoryBlixt said:

@phrali: i disagree, I never played these games when they were new and enjoyed the games quite a bit. Also the same could be said for Halo: CE's cutscene's as well

I didn't finished MSG 3 when it was new, and, really, they could've tweaked the controls a little bit. It's cheesy. Playable, yes. But cheesy.
#5 Posted by laserbolts (5311 posts) -

Hmm that is strange. I wish I could find a copy of it but no luck so far.

#6 Posted by BrockNRolla (1702 posts) -

I guess they didn't feel it deserved to be part of deliberation. Crazy... They are clearly on drugs. Probably also getting paid off. Must be a conspiracy.

#7 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -
#8 Posted by DeeGee (2113 posts) -

"I played MGS HD. Definitely didn't forget about it."

From Jeff's Formspring. They didn't think much of it, apparently.

#9 Posted by VictoryBlixt (117 posts) -

@BrockNRolla: http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/metal-gear-solid-hd-collection to completely ignore a game that has a 91 on metacritic in the relatively small field of HD remakes is a bit crazy

#10 Posted by BrockNRolla (1702 posts) -

Like I said. Clearly a conspiracy. I mean, if other people liked it, who were they to disagree?

#11 Edited by WinterSnowblind (7613 posts) -

@VictoryBlixt said:

@phrali: i disagree, I never played these games when they were new and enjoyed the games quite a bit. Also the same could be said for Halo: CE's cutscene's as well

Which of Halo's cut scenes were cheesy? It's not like they're an important part of that game anyway, where as in MGS, the gameplay very much takes a back seat to them.

Plus Halo CE was a full remake, not just an HD port.

#12 Posted by VictoryBlixt (117 posts) -

@BrockNRolla: The field of judging which HD Remake is the best is pretty objective, They didnt even mention it, yet they seriously considered the Resident Evil 4 remake, which as a remake is poor and not to mention that two other websites have given it the best HD collection award. I'm not saying it should of won, but it bore mentioning, it'd be as if they, in their GOTY discussion did not even mention Uncharted 3, sure it might not win but it bears discussion and is an important game

#13 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

The cheese is half the fun!

#14 Posted by BrockNRolla (1702 posts) -

They should have gone over all of them. I mean, the games were so few, and the time to discuss them nearly unlimited. I for one think they should have dedicated a whole podcast to the award. Nay, a whole podcast to MGS: HD Collection! Ignoring it was a travesty. Their opinions must include those of the majority, even if they disagree! How else can we take GB seriously?

#15 Posted by MetalGearSunny (6986 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

@BrockNRolla said:
I guess they didn't feel it deserved to be part of deliberation. Crazy... They are clearly on drugs. Probably also getting paid off. Must be a conspiracy.

followed.

#16 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8061 posts) -

Must be The Patriots.

#17 Posted by Irvandus (2826 posts) -

Those games weren't released originally in 2011. I feel this way about all HD collections in top 10 lists for years.

#18 Posted by mnzy (2911 posts) -

@Irvandus said:

Those games weren't released originally in 2011. I feel this way about all HD collections in top 10 lists for years.

So you only want games that got released and remade in 2011? That's some tough rules man.

(They had an HD collection/remake category)

#19 Posted by Lego_My_Eggo (983 posts) -

@Unknown_Pleasures said:

Must be The La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo.

Stop talking gibberish

#20 Posted by Xanadu (294 posts) -

I just listened to that podcast and I was also surprised to here not mention from them about MGS what so ever. The Metal Gear Solid series is probably my favorite franchise of all time and MGS3 is probably my favorite GAME of all time. Am I the only one who was blown away at how good snake eater looks??? My jaw hit the floor in the first cut scenes...but I understand that MGS is just not for everyone. I personally love sitting through hours and hours of cut scenes and dialog in the MGS series. I cant get enough of that!! While I am disappointed that it wasnt even discussed, I'm still very happy that this collection even exists. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back my ultimate MGS run of MGS3>Peace Walker>MG1>MG2>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4. oh hellfuckyes.

#21 Edited by Jeust (10477 posts) -

@Irvandus said:

Those games weren't released originally in 2011. I feel this way about all HD collections in top 10 lists for years.

It would be boring if games that got re-released in 2011 were considered instead of new games.

The MGS had their own prizes and awards already.

#22 Posted by demonknightinuyasha (457 posts) -

Until you pointed it out I didn't even notice. I think my brain just assumed they mentioned it briefly lol. I still haven't gotten the chance to dig back into them like I really wanted to, or the art book (but from the little bit I've flipped through it, it is a damn sexy book XD )

#23 Posted by MightyDuck (1502 posts) -

I got the HD collection for Christmas and have had a blast playing through it. As a kid, I skipped through a lot of the cut scenes and codec, but have decided to go through and watch each cut scene and at least read through the codec. It's been really enjoyable so far. I just finished MGS 2 and enjoyed it much more then I remember back when it came out in 2001.

Just started MGS 3, and excited to try out Peace Walker for the first time.

#24 Posted by AutomaticOwl (52 posts) -

I was surprised that it wasn't at least mentioned, especially since The Ico/SOTC Collection won partly due to its value: 2 games for $40. Say what you want about the Metal Gear Solid series, this collection features three solid games for $40, available for both PS3 and 360. Lastly: TRANSFARRING

#25 Posted by Daneian (1207 posts) -

I think the differentiating factors is how much was changed for the rerelease. From what I understand, Ico and Shadow were both much better versions than what was originally came out and Halo was pretty substantially modified and were celebrations for those games.

MGS 2 and 3 are nearly identical to their Substance and Subsistence versions, even down to menu sound effects being included for when the game checked for memory card slots, which the PS3 and 360 consoles don't have. Even the menu's You may like the games themselves more than the others, but that's not what the category was- it was best HD remake.

#26 Posted by Narx (172 posts) -

Did they even found the time to play it?

I wouldn't see them adding it to the category if none of them had played it in some way.

#27 Posted by Nekroskop (2786 posts) -

Personally, I can't wait to play this thing. Too bad it's not coming out for another month over here.(Europe)

#28 Edited by KaneRobot (1420 posts) -

I thought it was weird this game completely came and went under the radar as well. I saw literally no hype for it whatsoever, especially compared to Halo Anniversary which basically came out at the same time.

It's the only game I really wanted for Xmas (although admittedly I already bought most of the heavy hitters prior to that). I actually haven't started it yet but I'm excited to, the last MG game I played was MGS on the PS1.

#29 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

@KaneRobot said:

I thought it was weird this game completely came and went under the radar as well. I saw literally no hype for it whatsoever, especially compared to Halo Anniversary which basically came out at the same time.

It's the only game I really wanted for Xmas (although admittedly I already bought most of the heavy hitters prior to that). I actually haven't started it yet but I'm excited to, the last MG game I played was MGS on the PS1.

Well the new release of Halo was more than just a "We have turned up the resolution and ported these games to current gen consoles" so I think it's fair that got more recognition.

These are just another set of effortless HD collections.

#30 Posted by President_Barackbar (3434 posts) -
@AutomaticOwl said:
  Lastly: TRANSFARRING
That's why it lost.
#31 Posted by TooWalrus (13137 posts) -
#32 Edited by handlas (2659 posts) -

people hating MGS3 cuz it's cheesy? I think that was intentional...

I still love young Ocelot. And also, cmon...the first time you meet Eve all the first person views are looking at her tits.

#33 Edited by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -

MGS: HD is amazing. Its should have at least been nominated but none of the guys played it (except for Jeff who played a few minutes for the Quicklook, but he doesn't like those games to begin with so...) 
 
EDIT: AHHHHH IT SHOULD HAVE WON!!!

#34 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -

It would have been pointless to discuss it... Which award exactly did it have any hope of getting?

Just because you like a game does not mean everyone else has to be exited about it. The MGS 1-3 series is a product of its time and hardly relevant at this point in award considerations.

#35 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@Xanadu said:

 MGS3>Peace Walker>MG1>MG2>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4.

agreed
#36 Posted by Yeahbuhwhat (35 posts) -

I don't remember any of them ever saying anything about playing it, and if they didn't play it, they can't seriously consider it for end-of-the-year deliberations.

#37 Posted by JasonR86 (9608 posts) -

They felt it wasn't necessary, since it is their list, then that is that.

#38 Posted by Sayishere (1838 posts) -

Have you guys seen this? http://www.formspring.me/jeffgerstmann

I never knew it existed, i was literally reading through Jeffs replies for ages. One of the questions is about MGS HD collection.

When discussing "Best HD Remake", did you forget the Metal Gear Collection; was it just not played long enough by enough people that you could form an argument about it; or was it just not up to par enough to warrant mentioning?

Definitely didn't forget it. Definitely don't think it belongs on that list.

jeffgerstmann responded 4 days ago

#39 Posted by Alkaiser (358 posts) -

Eh, I'm cool with them not liking it. Heck, I'm cool with them hating it.

I think its funny though that the reason to hate MGS would be because its cheesy. Well, yeah. Its hella cheesy. So are most games.

#40 Posted by ComradeKhan (687 posts) -
@Manatassi said:

Which award exactly did it have any hope of getting?

Best HD Collection was a category, and the OPs question was why didn't it even get mentioned?
#41 Posted by IAmNotBatman (627 posts) -

Sooooo this doesn't come out 'till feb 3rd in europe? Thats FUCKING BULL!!!!!

#42 Edited by bybeach (4725 posts) -

As a few posters said, the MGS HD collection are pure remakes. Ico/SotC, and Halo had rework along with the remake. I guess I understand that it's just not Halo being Halo that silenced the MGS HD collection as a mention..if I want to be good about it.

Personally I enjoy the overwrought/overbombed cut-scenes of MGS, that's part of the package. On the other hand I have now heard way too clearly the 'Entropy' cut-scene (that Silent Librarian or cartographer needs to be more silent) in Halo. Sooo saaaaad.....

But I have both MGS HD and Halo HD, so what the hell. And the Halo rework(you can check it on the fly) is good.

#43 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -

@ComradeKhan: ahh ok I dont remember that award, guess I missed it.

#44 Posted by solidejake (484 posts) -

I guess they didn't get their cut of the Philosopher's Legacy... I would have anyway.

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