How would Snake get the hostages out?

#1 Edited by KevinK (198 posts) -

I'm a big MGS fan ever since the first one, and I'm not ragging on the game for this, but something has bothered me since 1998. How Snake was supposed to get the hostages out? For a "solo sneaking mission" where the guy was inserted by submarine, it doesn't seem like there's easy way to get the hostages out. And having a bureaucrat and a fat guy follow Snake around would probably give him away. Was there a throwaway Codec line somewhere that explained this?

#2 Edited by Benny (1952 posts) -

I assume by chopper, the American military wasn't that far out considering where the sub was and how close shadow moses is to North America. Probably the same way the Darpa Chief and Baker got there.

In MGS4 snake goes back there via chopper too, so it must be within range of a nearby base.

#3 Posted by MarkWahlberg (4601 posts) -

nanomachines.

#4 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4202 posts) -

Covering crotch and saying There's no time explain.

#5 Posted by Pr1mus (3873 posts) -
#6 Edited by DrDarkStryfe (1107 posts) -

Boxes, many, many boxes.

#7 Posted by ArtisanBreads (3804 posts) -

haha you know I never thought about this.

@benny said:

I assume by chopper, the American military wasn't that far out considering where the sub was and how close shadow moses is to North America. Probably the same way the Darpa Chief and Baker got there.

In MGS4 snake goes back there via chopper too, so it must be within range of a nearby base.

How you going to get in and out with that Hind D (!?!?) flying around?

#8 Edited by BisonHero (6452 posts) -

haha you know I never thought about this.

@benny said:

I assume by chopper, the American military wasn't that far out considering where the sub was and how close shadow moses is to North America. Probably the same way the Darpa Chief and Baker got there.

In MGS4 snake goes back there via chopper too, so it must be within range of a nearby base.

How you going to get in and out with that Hind D (!?!?) flying around?

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

#9 Edited by ArtisanBreads (3804 posts) -

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

You're right, but if they had so much air support why weren't they helping a brother out during his mission? Probably could have used it when he was fighting a tank.

(Thinking too much about this haha)

#10 Edited by ArtelinaRose (1850 posts) -

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

#11 Posted by KevinK (198 posts) -
#12 Edited by ArtelinaRose (1850 posts) -

@kevink said:

Yeah, I remember that, but wasn't that their planned escape route in MGS3 not the first game?

I think he was making a joke about Peace Walker. The Fulton Recovery method is how you recruit new soldiers in Peace Walker, or rescue hostages/POWs. You use it everywhere, from the middle of the jungle to inside an underground base. The game makes fun of this as MGS games tend to do.

#13 Edited by Pr1mus (3873 posts) -

@kevink said:

Yeah, I remember that, but wasn't that their planned escape route in MGS3 not the first game?

I think he was making a joke about Peace Walker. The Fulton Recovery method is how you recruit new soldiers in Peace Walker, or rescue hostages/POWs. You use it everywhere, from the middle of the jungle to inside an underground base. The game makes fun of this as MGS games tend to do.

This^ :D

#14 Posted by Demoskinos (14777 posts) -

LIKE A BOSS.

#15 Edited by ArtisanBreads (3804 posts) -

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

#16 Posted by ArtelinaRose (1850 posts) -

@artemesia said:

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

It was all information conveyed over the codec from what I remember. They send two f-16s from Galena to serve as a distraction, Liquid gets in the Hind D at the very beginning of the game to "swat down a couple of bothersome flies" and takes them out.

#17 Edited by Yummylee (21546 posts) -

@artemesia said:

@artisanbreads said:

@artemesia said:

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

It was all information conveyed over the codec from what I remember. They send two f-16s from Galena to serve as a distraction, Liquid gets in the Hind D at the very beginning of the game to "swat down a couple of bothersome flies" and takes them out.

And in true MGS fashion, that same line, if not a similar phrasing of it, is repeated in pretty much every game. It's crazy how often the series just loves to reference itself, so much so that ''Kept you waiting, huh?'' is almost like some sort of unofficial slogan for the entire series.

#18 Edited by ArtelinaRose (1850 posts) -

@yummylee said:

@artemesia said:

@artisanbreads said:

@artemesia said:

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

It was all information conveyed over the codec from what I remember. They send two f-16s from Galena to serve as a distraction, Liquid gets in the Hind D at the very beginning of the game to "swat down a couple of bothersome flies" and takes them out.

And in true MGS fashion, that same line, if not a similar phrasing of it, is repeated in pretty much every game. It's crazy how often the series just loves to reference itself, so much so that ''Kept you waiting, huh?'' is almost like some sort of unofficial slogan for the entire series.

I remember reading in an interview a few years ago that the "Kept you waiting, huh?" lines have become a joke from Kojima as it's meant to be both Kojima and Snake talking to the audience because there is always a three or four year wait time between every MGS game.

#19 Edited by ArtisanBreads (3804 posts) -

@artisanbreads said:

@artemesia said:

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

It was all information conveyed over the codec from what I remember. They send two f-16s from Galena to serve as a distraction, Liquid gets in the Hind D at the very beginning of the game to "swat down a couple of bothersome flies" and takes them out.

Ah now that you say that line I actually do remember it. Well I guess that explains why air extraction wasn't going to be an option of Liquid can take out fucking jets haha.

#20 Posted by Jimbo (9804 posts) -

He'd get them out on the Hind D, Royal Marine style:

#21 Posted by Benny (1952 posts) -

@artemesia said:

@artisanbreads said:

@artemesia said:

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

It was all information conveyed over the codec from what I remember. They send two f-16s from Galena to serve as a distraction, Liquid gets in the Hind D at the very beginning of the game to "swat down a couple of bothersome flies" and takes them out.

Ah now that you say that line I actually do remember it. Well I guess that explains why air extraction wasn't going to be an option of Liquid can take out fucking jets haha.

To be fair, Snake wasn't ever actually supposed to extract anyone, what with the actual mission being using Snake as a human vector for the FoxDie virus that specifically targets everyone involved in the coup & baker and the DARPA chief and what-not.

#22 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

Nanomachines, son.

#23 Edited by GERALTITUDE (3229 posts) -

@benny said:

@artisanbreads said:

@artemesia said:

@artisanbreads said:

@artemesia said:

@bisonhero said:

I'm no expert, but doesn't just about every jet fighter ever have superiority over a Hind D?

Yessir. They even send a couple in but Liquid ends up shooting down from the Hind D as a way of showing that he is the ultimate badass.

Do they really? I don't remember this.

Guess it's been a while (well it has been a while).

It was all information conveyed over the codec from what I remember. They send two f-16s from Galena to serve as a distraction, Liquid gets in the Hind D at the very beginning of the game to "swat down a couple of bothersome flies" and takes them out.

Ah now that you say that line I actually do remember it. Well I guess that explains why air extraction wasn't going to be an option of Liquid can take out fucking jets haha.

To be fair, Snake wasn't ever actually supposed to extract anyone, what with the actual mission being using Snake as a human vector for the FoxDie virus that specifically targets everyone involved in the coup & baker and the DARPA chief and what-not.

BOOM.

This.

I'm sure Snake thought there would be a chopper or extraction zone but no such plan ever existed.

Fox... die!

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