Super Street Fighter IV VS Mortal Kombat

Posted by DulleNL (18 posts) -

 


I have a sudden urge to play a fighting game. But which one...? SSFIV seems to be pretty good ánd you can get it for pretty cheap these days. But MK is no slouch either. The demo was fun. But it only just came out, so the price will be a bit higher.

The problem is that I kinda suck at fighting games. Between these 2 games I want the one that is the easiest to pick up and play. Not necessarily a button masher, but a game where you don't need a spreadsheet and a lot of dedication to have fun with it.

And maybe one with good matchmaking, so I can play against people who are just as bad as me at the game.

Anyone? :(

#1 Posted by DulleNL (18 posts) -

 


I have a sudden urge to play a fighting game. But which one...? SSFIV seems to be pretty good ánd you can get it for pretty cheap these days. But MK is no slouch either. The demo was fun. But it only just came out, so the price will be a bit higher.

The problem is that I kinda suck at fighting games. Between these 2 games I want the one that is the easiest to pick up and play. Not necessarily a button masher, but a game where you don't need a spreadsheet and a lot of dedication to have fun with it.

And maybe one with good matchmaking, so I can play against people who are just as bad as me at the game.

Anyone? :(

#2 Edited by huntad (1930 posts) -

You aren't necessarily going to need a spreadsheet for either, but you will have to dedicate time to improve. I spend hours and hours in practice mode in MK just trying to learn new combos and sometimes it can take me a little while just to learn/master a single one. It's what fighting games are all about. I'd say MK is easier, but they are both great games. 

However, imo SSFIV=competitive online/offline play only. MK=a lot of singleplayer content as well as a decent online section. Choose based on that. 

Edit: Matchmaking is alright in both games. The lobby system would make it easy for you to find a 'low-level' player in MK, because you can clearly see their wins and losses.Hope it helps.
#3 Posted by DulleNL (18 posts) -
@huntad:  Thanks! :) Seems like MK is the way to go.
Too bad really. I was rooting for the cheaper SSFIV. >:(

;)
#4 Edited by Kyreo (4600 posts) -

Of the two I prefer Super Street Fighter IV, far and away.  


@DulleNL: you should TOTALLY get street fighter.  It's cheaper, and the fighting system is far more complex, but not in a challenging way.
#5 Posted by thegoldencat7 (1496 posts) -

Both.
#6 Posted by DulleNL (18 posts) -
@Kyreo said:
" Of the two I prefer Super Street Fighter IV, far and away.  

@DulleNL: you should TOTALLY get street fighter.  It's cheaper, and the fighting system is far more complex, but not in a challenging way.
"
How is the Singleplayer content?  I know MK has that ladder thing, a story mode and an arcade mode. And a lot of unlocks...And the Test your Luck mode.
Now I know Street Fighter will have less, but will it have enough to keep me busy when I don't feel like getting my ass kicked online (or offline for that matter)?

@thegoldencat7 said:
" Both. "

Not an option unfortunately. :P
If I REALLY like the one I will pick I can always get the other one too. But for now I want to start with one to test the waters.
#7 Posted by McGhee (6094 posts) -
@DulleNL: 
Street Fighter is better, but if you are going to play online be aware that by now most of the people playing online are pretty good and will whip your ass. Mortal Kombat is good because it just came out and everyone is starting off on the ground floor.
#8 Posted by JJOR64 (18939 posts) -

IMO SSFIV is by far the better game.  The game is well balanced and is great fun with other people.  Also, the netcode is far better in SSFIV then MK.  Plus the Arcade Edition update is coming to SSFIV on June 7th.  The update rebalances the game, adds 4 more characters, and offers an update to the replay channel.  Plus the game is only $20 now I think.

As in terms of single player and easy for beginners, I would have to say MK is easier to pick up.  The single player content in SSFIV isn't that good while MK has the story mode which is pretty solid for the most part and it also has the challenge mode.  MK uses button presses for combos while Street Fighter uses motions on the joystick, which can be hard for some.

This is from a person who has put in 600+ hours into SSFIV.

#9 Posted by Kyreo (4600 posts) -
@DulleNL: Well if you want a greater single player experience go with MK.  The story mode is AMAZING and Street fighter has nothing like that.  Street fighter just has that arcade mode thing going for it but MK beats it with the Story Mode.  

I would still recommend street fighter overall, but if you want single player stuff go with MK.

However, the tutorial stuff for each character in Street Fighter is a lot better than MK.  I dont think there is a tutorial in MK for any character anywhere.
#10 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -

For a new player, MK is the much more enjoyable game, for me at least.  I tried to pick up SF4 a while back and just couldn't get into it, but I LOVE MK so much.  The singleplayer content is the best of any fighting game I've ever seen, and online modes as well as local multiplayer seem to be no slouch either.  I find MK is much much easier to learn than SF4 as well.

#11 Edited by Pessh (2459 posts) -

If you want a fighting game SF.

If you want 'fun' MK.

#12 Posted by C0V3RT (1377 posts) -

If you're looking at accessibility, MK is the way to go. In terms of barrier of entry, remember SFIV has been out for some time now so people who are still playing it are probably pretty good. SSFIV feels more polished of the two and is probably the better pure fighter. On the contrary, MK is still pretty new so people are still feeling out what works so if you were to jump in soon you wouldn't be too far behind. The online matchmaking is pretty bad right now in terms of lag but tough to say if that's just your regular release week latency or will always exist.

I guess all that being said, are your friends playing either? Playing against a friend of the same skill level as opposed to some random who could work you over pretty good has always seemed more fun to me.

#13 Edited by CanadianBaconX (170 posts) -

Honestly Mortal Kombat is a better "game" than Super Street Fighter IV but, maybe not the better "Fighting Game". However it's no slouch, this version of Mortal Kombat has a lot more depth then people want to see and just toss it aside as "LOL BLOOD!!!!". It has ALOT more to do offline, the BEST Story any fighting game has ever had, a Challenge Tower in which you actually have to learn the characters they give you to get past it as apposed to Street Fighter that just has "Yo do this combo that is completely useless and you'll never do in a real match..."

They both have an Arcade/Ladder mode but, in Mortal Kombat there are (like all the other MKs in the past) secrets that you get for doing certain things, while Street Fighter is more traditional, just fight these dude and you're done. 

Online right now from what I can see... Street Fighter has a lot of people who know what they are doing and will beat you silly. Mortal Kombat... Almost EVERYONE is HORRIBLE... In 70+ games I've run in 1 guy who knew how to play... 1! So getting MK would be better since EVERYONE is still learning the game and you'll get to grow into it. Street Fighter... That's just gonna be a up hill battle the whole time. However, not matter which game you pick expect alot of Ryu/Ken (Street Fighter) and Scorpion (MK) but, that's just how fighting games are I guess haha XD

Honestly it's still up to you, if you want "Tradition" get Street Fighter, if you want something on the "Crazy" side get Mortal Kombat. Either way you'll enjoy both! They're both great games!

#14 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

Buy both!

#15 Posted by thegoldencat7 (1496 posts) -
@DulleNL:
Well in that case, although SSFIV is the better game, MK would probably serve as a better, more accessible start off point right now. And if that whets your appetite for fighting games and helps you understand their basic mechanics then SSFIV wouldn't be quite as overwhelming to get into at a later date. Which you should, its still great.
#16 Posted by DulleNL (18 posts) -

Thanks for all the replies!
It really seems MK is the way to go.

I also just saw a nice price of €11 for SSFIV. With that price I might even pick that up too, even if it's just for the visual style that's more appealing to guests. ;) (less ripping limbs off and all that). Dunno about that yet though, but MK is at least a definite purchase.

Looking forward to it. :) It's been too long since I've played a fighting game! (and even then I was no good, but who cares)

#17 Posted by Jeffsekai (7027 posts) -

Considering the price difference and knowledge base online for helping you ease into the game SSF4 is the best bet.

#18 Posted by huntad (1930 posts) -
@DulleNL: No problem. If you enjoy a good story mode, unlocks, and a variety of modes to keep you busy, you'll be pretty happy with your purchase. I've been wanting to get SSF4 for a bit now, but I'm waiting for the 10-15 dollar point since, like you, I will get decimated online and there is only arcade mode otherwise. Happy fighting!
#19 Posted by Gabriel (4058 posts) -

You will have more fun with MK if you are not good at fighting games. 

#20 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -
@Pessh said:
" If you want a fighting game SF.If you want 'fun' MK. "
Who doesn't like fun?
#21 Posted by project343 (2816 posts) -

I recently wanted to dive into them as well. Could 'not' get into SSFIV. The special attacks simply take too much to pull off--which creates a massive barrier to entry for new players. Loving Mortal Kombat though--takes 10 seconds of looking at the moves list and you're already throwing fireballs and zipping around the arena with any character.

#22 Posted by SoldierG654342 (1758 posts) -

The biggest problem I had with SSF4 was that I had no incentive to play the singleplayer, and that's the way you at least start to get good at these type of games. Everything except for taunts and colors for primary costumes are unlocked for the get-go and you have to pay money for anything extra. The new MK at least gives you incentive yo play the singleplayer and affords you numerous opportunities (read; forced you to) become familiar with nearly every character. 


The bigger question though is how dedicated to you plan to be. You are going to have to put in a ton of time with one character if you want to stand any type of chance online. The newness of MK and the fact that the game isn't nearly as technical or complex as SSF4 means that, at least for the time being, you can have a certain amount of success  competitively without the input needed for SSF4. 
#23 Posted by TheBlackPigeon (314 posts) -

While this version of MK is a bit more 'technical' than previous installments, it's still very easy to pick up and play. And, as everyone else has already said, MK has a more compelling single player component. The Challenge Tower is loads of quirky fun, and also serves as a way to improve your skills. So I guess you can add another check mark next to MK on your list. : p

#24 Posted by keyhunter (3207 posts) -

Go with MK. SSF4 will piss you off more than anything especially this late in its life. Also the timing on SF 4 combos is way more specific and don't offer a lot of freedom.
While in MK you can pretty much start a combo, cancel it into a launcher, and pretty much do whatever from there without much chance of fucking it up. Also everyone online is terrible. I you bother to go to the practice mode and memorize a couple combos you'll probably beat everyone online who doesn't use scorpion.

#25 Posted by PrivateIronTFU (3874 posts) -

I'm not good at fighting games, but I picked up Mortal Kombat anyway. And boy, it's fun. But there's definitely still a learning curve. Just not as much as Street Fighter.

#26 Edited by ptys (1925 posts) -

Wow you picked my two favourite characters! I'm into visual aesthetic and the thing which puts me off about Street Fighter 4 are the character models themselves, not the art style. The anatomy is too chunky, almost like Gears of War. MK looks slick as hell IMO and should be your first choice, especially cause it's new!

#27 Posted by tunaburn (1890 posts) -

you said you wanted good matchmaking? DO NOT GET MORTAL KOMBAT. the online is the worst ive played on a fighting game. literal seconds of delay and the worst "matchmaking"

#28 Posted by mazik765 (2315 posts) -
@Kyreo said:
" Of the two I prefer Super Street Fighter IV, far and away.  

@DulleNL: you should TOTALLY get street fighter.  It's cheaper, and the fighting system is far more complex, but not in a challenging way.
"
I haven't played Mortal Kombat yet but SSFIV was, for me, completely inaccessible.
#29 Edited by SoldierG654342 (1758 posts) -
@tunaburn said:

" you said you wanted good matchmaking? DO NOT GET MORTAL KOMBAT. the online is the worst ive played on a fighting game. literal seconds of delay and the worst "matchmaking" "

That is a legitimate point. What little online play I was able to get in before PSN exploded was playable, but less than stellar. The worst part was actually getting into matches. I can't speak for the Live side of things, but hopefully when PSN goes back up things will be better. 

On the flip side of things, I didn't really have any issues at all with SSF4. 
#30 Posted by Kyreo (4600 posts) -
@mazik765 said:
" @Kyreo said:
" Of the two I prefer Super Street Fighter IV, far and away.  

@DulleNL: you should TOTALLY get street fighter.  It's cheaper, and the fighting system is far more complex, but not in a challenging way.
"
I haven't played Mortal Kombat yet but SSFIV was, for me, completely inaccessible. "
How so?  It was rough for me, at first, but it wasn't insurmountable.  I also had a drive within me to get good at it to understand the draw of Street Fighter.  I now understand.
#31 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@extremeradical said:
" @Pessh said:
" If you want a fighting game SF.If you want 'fun' MK. "
Who doesn't like fun? "
PC gamers....and the dutch
#32 Posted by tunaburn (1890 posts) -
@SoldierG654342:  its not so good on the live side of things. takes forever to get into a match and then even picking your character has a delay to it. completely unable to pull of combos at all so its basically just spam super moves.
#33 Posted by President_Barackbar (3448 posts) -
@tunaburn said:
" @SoldierG654342:  its not so good on the live side of things. takes forever to get into a match and then even picking your character has a delay to it. completely unable to pull of combos at all so its basically just spam super moves. "
I have seen absolutely no problems with the online so far, it seems to be based on where you live/are getting matched up much like any other Live game.
#34 Posted by BaconGames (3357 posts) -

Personally I can't make Street Fighter work on a 4-button pad AT ALL.  I'm not above learning how to fight (hell I've picked up every 4-button fighting game pretty well I think) and I've been a long-time fan of MK.  From the sounds of it, MK is the perfect middle ground between super simple and super complicated as well as equal focus competitive and solo-play.  In addition, the game is not only new but is bound to draw in new players more frequently for much longer that SSFIV.  Chances are the only people playing SSFIV are the ones who take it serious (or in a lot of cases way too seriously) so the lifespan for a relative newbie is naturally longer.

I have nothing against SSFIV but I found the learning curve too steep for the rather pathetic single-player content designed to train you (whereas MK does it beautifully by comparison).  That and I've tried and failed multiple times to make SF work on a 4-button pad.  Get that 6-button pad or a stick for SSFIV if you foresee the same problem.  Or just get MK :D

#35 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" @tunaburn said:
" @SoldierG654342:  its not so good on the live side of things. takes forever to get into a match and then even picking your character has a delay to it. completely unable to pull of combos at all so its basically just spam super moves. "
I have seen absolutely no problems with the online so far, it seems to be based on where you live/are getting matched up much like any other Live game. "
Same here. No problems.
#36 Posted by RE_Player1 (7557 posts) -

I prefer MK and think it is much easier to get into. 

#37 Posted by mazik765 (2315 posts) -
@Kyreo said:
" @mazik765 said:
" @Kyreo said:
" Of the two I prefer Super Street Fighter IV, far and away.  

@DulleNL: you should TOTALLY get street fighter.  It's cheaper, and the fighting system is far more complex, but not in a challenging way.
"
I haven't played Mortal Kombat yet but SSFIV was, for me, completely inaccessible. "
How so?  It was rough for me, at first, but it wasn't insurmountable.  I also had a drive within me to get good at it to understand the draw of Street Fighter.  I now understand. "
I kind of felt that since they made absolutely no in-game effort to teach a new player the mechanics of the game, I didn't see why I should give them my time learning to play. I'm just glad I got the game used for $5. I totally see why people love SSFIV, and it's something I enjoy watching, but they seriously gave me the feeling that they didn't even want my business if I was a new player.
#38 Posted by bingbangboom (101 posts) -

I have both and honestly right now considering you are pretty new to it, I would recommend picking up Street Fighter on the cheap along with Mortal Kombat vs. DC on the cheap. You can get both these games for less then the price of Mortal Kombat. MK is a great game with a ton of replay value and content but by the time you get your feet wet with those other two games, MK might drop in price.


Just on a whole I feel Capcom needs to step it's game up, not so much with gameplay wise but content. MK just delivers so much of it compared to Street Fighter or any of their past few fighting games. Could you really imagine Capcom giving you FREE alternative costumes? A full fleshed out story mode? I really think this also highlights the thought process behind Japaneese Developers vs. Western Developers. They all know they have taken a step back this generation and hopefully this pushes it forward for better games in general.
#39 Posted by VacaZumbi (3 posts) -

Super  Street FIghter IV is a bit harder, but the game is better... 
Mortal Kombat is easier but almost EVERYONE online "don't let you play" because they continuosly attack you with annoying combos that are impossible to avoid. That really bugs me, that's the mais reason why I preffer SSFIV 

#40 Posted by DuhQbnSiLo (2139 posts) -

Always disliked Street Fighter, MK9 is way better imo.

#41 Posted by phrosnite (3518 posts) -

Man, I love Mileena's hair :) 
Anyways... I like MK better because the characters are cooler(imo) and I like the gameplay better also. Block dmg ftw :)

#42 Posted by CHIEFMEGADETH666 (110 posts) -

If you want a fun Fighting game get MK9...
Way better then SF, i grew up with SF i love it,but its kind of gotten stupid. plus the combo have to be spot on, no room for era.If your 1msec off then you drop the combo. SF has better online less glitches and that.But MK9 is just to good! MK is a brutal fun/annoying lol experience. but it cant be beat!!!!
MK9 is the new king of fighting games! just need to fix online, Theres Random De-syncing/disconnects that are just BAD!
MK9 Blew me away! 
Id say pick MK9 up,and when u got the money? buy Street fighter 3rd strike online. its better then SSF4 IMO and a lot cheap 1200MP

#43 Posted by GloriousDinosaur (433 posts) -
@project343: Same here man. I started with MK9 a few days ago and it took me all of half a week to be reasonably solid with Jade
#44 Posted by OneManX (1685 posts) -

Honestly... if you want fun and just want to get in there and just go, Mortal Kombat 9 all day.

If you want to get good at fighting games, get SF, I would recommend Third Strike since it's cheaper and a more technical fighter. But if you are on XBox SSFIV is like 20 bucks on Games on Demand and you buy the Arcade Edition upgrade for an extra (15-20).

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