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Eyes-On: The Xbox 360's Instant 1080p Streaming

Exactly how instant is "instant," anyway?


 New look, same marketplace.
 New look, same marketplace.
Once you get past Facebook and Twitter, one of the big additions that comes with the latest Xbox 360 dashboard update is the Zune Marketplace and the new "instant-on" 1080p video streaming. On the former point, it's only worth noting that "Video Marketplace" now equals "Zune Marketplace." The old video-buyin' interface has simply been rebranded and skinned with Zune signage, with a few new sorting options mixed in. So in terms of both technology and appearance, this is really more of an upgrade to the existing service than a whole new platform.

Anyway, this instant 1080p business. It works quite well from my initial tests, though the name is misleading, because it doesn't instantly start in 1080p. Instead, it begins playing almost immediately in a much lower-quality mode, then buffers itself up to full quality as fast as your connection will allow. The video timeline has a handy connection meter showing what quality level you've buffered up to that sits in the upper right, as seen below. It's divided into three bars and then an "HD" indicator; as far as I can tell, once the HD icon lights up, you've hit full quality. That took around 10 seconds even over the 360 Wi-Fi adapter to our shared Internet connection in the office, so in most cases you're probably going to hit 1080p before you get through all the studio logos at the front of a movie.

Microsoft provided us with a 24-hour rental of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets to test this feature out, and here's how the movie looked immediately after hitting Play from the Zune Marketplace. (Full-size version here. Right-click and Save as, if your browser doesn't display the full pic.) As you can see, the image is pretty rough, with a lot of visible compression artifacts at the outset. 


And here's what it looked like a few seconds later, at full quality. (Full-size pic.) At a normal viewing distance, the HD version looked nearly as good as a Blu-ray to my untrained eyes.


Unfortunately, this instant 1080p hasn't made me like the Harry Potter films any more than I did before.

You can skip between chapters just like on a DVD, which happens more or less instantly, though of course you have to buffer back to HD each time you do it. I wish there were some kind of way to see all the chapters broken out in a list, but what can you do? You can also seek forwards and backwards at up to 32x, which happens instantaneously, even into territory you haven't buffered yet. At the higher speeds, seeking will only display single frames as you go.

So the tech works great, but the pricing of these movies still sticks in my craw. You're looking at between $6 and 8 U.S. for a 24-hour rental of new releases, which is cheaper than going to the theater but seems like highway robbery next to a $20 Netflix account that offers Blu-rays in the mail and unlimited streaming on the same console. Netflix's streaming selection remains pretty limited, though, so I could see this service being cool for impulse-watching the latest flicks. It beats driving to Blockbuster, anyway. Who still does that?
 
Show of hands: who regularly rents or buys movies on their Xbox already? If you don't, will this new upgrade make you start? (If you want to see all the new features of this latest update, including the movie in motion, you could always watch our quick look.) 
 
EDIT: Upon inspection, the rentals I've found in the Marketplace actually range from around $4.50 to $6. I guess that means the Microsoft Points system is doing its job.
Chewii101 is online on Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:41 p.m.
Sounds great. Cept for the Zune branding.
Venatioon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:41 p.m.

Will this be for European 360 users aswell? Specifically Sweden

Sanjon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:43 p.m.

Get on it Sony.
DanielJWon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:44 p.m.
I still go to Blockbuster, thank you very much!
eroticfishcakeon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:45 p.m.
Looks interesting. Come on Sony, let's do something with that little black box of yours. Chop chop!
slinton Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:46 p.m.

We need Netflix in Canada.  The fact that we don't is completely retarded.
MjHealyon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:46 p.m.
I loved how they watched Harry Potter.
 
Also, Europeans maybe?
Hitchensonon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:48 p.m.
Seems pretty cool, although I doubt I'd ever use it myself.
FlipperDeserton Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:48 p.m.
@DanielJW said:
" I still go to Blockbuster, thank you very much! "
Me too! There isn't much of a choice in the UK.
Vonocourton Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:49 p.m.
You want to show the quality of the streaming so you give us JPEGs? Seems kinda counter-productive.
Meatsimon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:50 p.m.
I wish they would expand Netflix's streaming selection. 
PLWolfon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:50 p.m.
I still get movies or TV Shows off the Video Marketplace. Mostly TV shows, though. I also do that on PSN as I can load them up on my PSP and watch during my morning commutes.
pepperon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:50 p.m.
Nope. Even if it looks nice, it doesn't make up for the lack of interesting movies you are able to watch.
Metal_Gear_Sunnyon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:52 p.m.
Is it the same for the Netflix video streaming?
MaddProdigyon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:53 p.m.
im down
dextersluon Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:54 p.m.
I've only bought episodes of South Park, sparingly before they were online for free. Now that Netflix instant streaming is available and has so many different options, there is NO WAY IN HELL I will ever rent anything/buy anything from Marketplace.
Drykeron Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:59 p.m.

My biggest gripe concerning downloadable movies is the lack of 5.1 surround sound. That is a big deal for me. I don't need it for "quirky" movies: low-budget comedies, indie movies, and the like; but for most others it definitely depreciates the viewing experience. So, in short, no, I have no intention to pay for downloadable movies above and beyond my Netflix account. I don't have enough time to watch the Blu-rays that are sitting on my shelf from Netflix, let alone pay for a 1080p movie. And with the Holiday line-up of games in full-effect, I'm seriously considering canceling my Netflix account to give me more time to play all the awesome games. Then, when I come back to Netflix early next year, I'll have a huge back log of rentals to fill my free time with (without the occasional "filler" movie!).
Neion Oct. 21, 2009 at 1:59 p.m.
I weekly check to see what Marketplace has to offer... be it Movies or TV Shows. I pretty much have every HD episode of South Park. :)
I wonder though, the movie rental, is it going to be Streaming only or I will have an option to download and play of the HD. 'cause, I can't stream with my connection, which is one of the reason I can't use the Netflix on 360. My Cable pretty much hits Dial-Up territory between 6pm-1am. :( So I usually set things to download over night and while I'm at work.
88Fingerson Oct. 21, 2009 at 2:03 p.m.
Impressive.
Doesn't this kinda' make BluRay obsolete? 
 
It makes me wonder about Microsofts next console....
I doubt it will have BluRay if it can stream 1080p.
The only benefit from BluRay would be larger space on a disc. 
But so far, games on a dual layer HD DVD seem to be enough space.
In other words, there's no benefit of putting BORDERLANDS on a BluRay.
 50Gbytes of space, yet only 10 percent seems to be needed....in most games.
The only game to "supposedly" use an entire BluRay is Metal Gear IV.
I don't understand why though. It's a 4 hour game if you remove the cut scenes.
I think they probably just un-compressed it as much as possible to fill it up.
That's why there are 20+ minute load times. (installs)
I still say streaming this well in 1080p is another reason why
the next consoles will be drive-less and digital downloads only.
 
And I welcome it with open arms.
samsaturdayon Oct. 21, 2009 at 2:08 p.m.
I've never used the Video Marketplace since I have Netflix. And I still see no reason to do so.

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