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Final Fantasy XIII-2's Developers Discuss Feedback, Twitter, And Admiring Skyrim

Yoshinori Kitase and Isamu Kamikokuryo come by the office as the game wraps up.

Final Fantasy XIII was supposed to be a PlayStation 2 game, the company's role-playing finale between Sony’s last piece of hardware and the next. Development started in 2004, but a move to PlayStation 3 and onto a new engine proved more troublesome than expected--the game finally released in late 2009 in Japan, early 2010 everywhere else.

It’s not often that Square Enix commissions a direct sequel to a Final Fantasy game, but the practice has become more and more commonplace, with Final Fantasy XIII being the latest to receive one with Final Fantasy XIII-2.

Final Fantasy X received a sequel, too, focusing on a trio of female characters from the game.
Final Fantasy X received a sequel, too, focusing on a trio of female characters from the game.

“With Final Fantasy XIII being the first Final Fantasy on the next-gen consoles, or at least what was considered next-gen, and we spent a lot of time creating the environment and the characters and we had a great satisfaction in what we created,” said producer Yoshinori Kitase in an interview with me back in October.

While Final Fantasy XIII was not the most critically beloved of the Final Fantasy games, it sold well. More than six million copies of the game have been shipped worldwide, and since creating a brand-new Final Fantasy game would take years, a sequel made more sense.

“The difficult in this is that because it’s a direct sequel and the foundation remains the same, it’s how to provide users with a new experience, where it’s still new and exciting, and I think that becomes the biggest challenge for a sequel,” said Kitase.

One of the biggest complaints about Final Fantasy XIII was the linearity, a criticism not lost on the development staff. Final Fantasy XIII-2 introduces a time travel element (making our latest Endurance Run well-timed) that gives new options to the player, a feature that’s seen tweaks based on what players have been saying while the game is still in development.

Focus testing is a new concept for Square Enix, one it picked up from the acquisition of Eidos Interactive. Kitase said the conversations he’s been having with Western designers from Eidos Interactive's many studios has proven very influential, and pushed Square Enix to start soliciting player feedback before development wrapped.

Previously, the game would finish development and then the team would seek out feedback. This meant most meaningful notes from fans could not be incorporated until the next game, potentially years out.

“A lot of the titles coming out of Japan have a tendency to not use any focus testing,” said Kitase, “and especially with Final Fantasy, especially with [what we] learned from XIII, especially hearing all the fan feedback and media feedback post launch, we took that a cue to incorporate that from an early stage, and we feel this is a good method that we would like to incorporate into our development.”

Players can travel back in time with leveled up characters to tackle previously unbeatable bosses in XIII-2.
Players can travel back in time with leveled up characters to tackle previously unbeatable bosses in XIII-2.

Kitase said he’s aware of how players these days are able to provide more direct, real-time feedback through Facebook and Twitter, but admitted the issue is that much of Japan hasn’t accepted social media just yet.

“We’re learning,” he said.

Another problem, one that we can all relate to, is figuring out what users are asking for, as most people are anonymous on the Internet, and determining if a user is being serious can be...challenging. His team still actively read message boards, however.

Part of this learning process has been adopting the idea of the “vertical slice,” an industry insider term that refers to a development team extracting a small section of an unfinished game and spending time polishing that for presentation purposes. It’s what makes up many of the demos you see at E3, PAX-- shows where games are shown over and over again.

If you didn't care for Final Fantasy XIII, it's unclear whether XIII-2 will change that much.
If you didn't care for Final Fantasy XIII, it's unclear whether XIII-2 will change that much.

When asked about the rising influence of Western-made RPGs, Kitase said he enjoys talking to the media about what makes them enjoyable. When in the thick of development, he doesn’t have time to play much, and the media gives him perspective as that aspect winds down.

Final Fantasy XIII-2 art director Isamu Kamikokuryo had a particular eye for Western games, showing admiration for Rockstar GamesRed Dead Redemption, and jealousy after I said I’d played The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim ahead of release (remember, this is back in October).

“I really enjoyed the previous rendition [The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion],” said Kamikokuryo, “but the graphic quality for this new one is just extremely impressive, and it really strikes my curiosity to see if I were to create something like that...how I would design a game, or the characters, or the world?”

Maybe he'll have a chance with the Final Fantasy game, which is most likely already well into development.

Final Fantasy XIII-2 arrives on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 on January 31.

Jamin52on Nov. 30, 2011 at 7 a.m.

Woo

TechHitson Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:04 a.m.

what he's saying is what I want to hear, I give it a go.

enthalpyon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:06 a.m.

I assume that it was "maybe he'll have a chance with the next Final Fantasy game." The lack of focus testing is an interesting decision.

Marzon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:10 a.m.
While FFXIII-2 might be a leap forward from FFXIII....  it's really not the next FF game people wanted...
InfiniteGeass is online on Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:11 a.m.

I really enjoyed FFXIII. It was my first FF game and I eagerly await to play this one.

Veektariuson Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:12 a.m.

It's definitely good that Final Fantasy is looking for some direction from Western gamers, at least, it's good for Western gamers. However, FFXIII's story and world were the furthest off the mark in a long time. Focusing on the mechanical issues is well and good, but based on the trailers, I'd say they haven't come to grips with the west's intolerance for their sappy melodrama. In a story-based game, that's easily as important as whether there are any towns to buy your potions in.

metalsnakezeroon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:13 a.m.

It does sound like they are learning from their mistakes. Let see if it works out.

DaBuddaDaon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:17 a.m.

Focus testing is a dangerous road to travel down if they're new to it and don't know how to utilize information gathered from it correctly. I hope they are leaning more toward the Valve-style of play testing rather than the Activision-style of focus testing.

ildonon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:17 a.m.

Typo on the last line: says "XII-2" instead of "XIII-2".

Vexxan is online on Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:19 a.m.

@ildon said:

Typo on the last line: says "XII-2" instead of "XIII-2".

Same typo under one of the pictures.

Great article, I'm eager to see how it all turns out, I liked FF13.

kerikxion Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:19 a.m.

What's horrifying is the realization it took Squeenix this long, this many years and this many games, before it occurred to them hey guys, maybe we should ask some other people what they think about our game before we finish it, maybe even listen to them. It's not very surprising that Japanese game development has been left in the dust when they've lived in a bubble for so long.

Sawbosson Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:20 a.m.
How about a Japanese Voice Track...is that asking so much?
endaroundon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:21 a.m.

Or hey he could be working on an unreal engine action rpg....

AndrewBeardsleyon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:21 a.m.

I look forward to this game.

Daraconon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:29 a.m.

@Sawboss said:

How about a Japanese Voice Track...is that asking so much?

I would die for this!

bricewgilberton Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:29 a.m.

Japanese developers with their insane corporate structure getting into focus testing? That sounds bad. You've already got companies in the US doing it wrong. Valve and Naughty Dog do it right, but even then it's quite scary to think they might design a game to the lowest common denominator. So far they've used their discretion well though.

SuperJoeon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:31 a.m.

I don't believe Japan is behind in social media. If I learned anything from the earthquake, it's that Japan loves Twitter.

Hailinel is online on Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:36 a.m.

I played the FFXIII-2 demo at PAX, and it was awesome. I can't wait for the full game.

DaBuddaDaon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:40 a.m.

Regarding the picture subtitle above: "If you didn't care for Final Fantasy XIII, it's unclear whether XIII-2 will change that much." If you need to ask, why not find out? There is a laundry list of massive changes XIII-2 is bringing from XIII. If you do your research it's actually quite clear that XIII-2 is going to be a very different experience from a gameplay perspective.

Canteuon Nov. 30, 2011 at 7:40 a.m.

FF13 was great, looking forward to this to see what's different.

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