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Added by Brad on Sept. 19, 2008 37 comments

Cars go vroom and stuff. What do you want, it's Friday.

Speculation has been swirling for a while now that Forza developer Turn 10 will be doing the rubber-burning on the next installment of Project Gotham Racing, that being PGR5. Sticking Microsoft-owned Turn 10 on PGR would be pretty close to a no-brainer, since

those guys proved their racing chops pretty handily with the Forza games, and
PGR creator Bizarre Creations is now slaving full-time under the Activision yoke

Addict Gaming dumped more fuel on the fire today, saying that a "reliable source" close to Turn 10 has let it slip that, yes, the studio is doing the next PGR. More interestingly, it will supposedly be announced in "the next two weeks" based on a "NXE announcement" set for next week. We took that to mean the New Xbox Experience, so presumably the game could roll out to correspond with more information on one of the new dashboard features.

But then, it's been my perception that Forza was the rising star of Xbox racing games while PGR may have fallen out of favor with fans after so many installments. (Fans, feel free to correct me.) So why stick Turn 10 on PGR when they could just do another Forza?

Unless they're doing both! A Turn 10 rep offered this terribly illuminating comment.

We're knee-deep in production on our next project but we don't currently have anything to announce. I can say that this next game is by far our most ambitious yet in terms of design and production. So with the expansion of the studio and all the new-hires, it's been pretty exciting here at Turn 10 as of late.

A bigger staff might mean the studio is able to ramp up early production on another Forza while finishing off the latest PGR. Or it might just mean their next game, PGR or not, is just complicated enough to require more manpower. Time will tell!

While we're on the Xbox tip, here's a video detailing the latest piece of the Xbox Experience puzzle to fall into place: Avatar creation.

&lt;a href="http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-US&amp;playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:af0e0dcd-5cff-43a2-bd32-4841fe6a89d1&amp;showPlaylist=true&amp;from=msnvideo" target="_new" title="Avatars in the new Xbox experience"&gt;Video: Avatars in the new Xbox experience&lt;/a&gt;

So, PGR or Forza: which one turns your crank faster?

Filed under : Turn 10 Studios, Project Gotham Racing 4, Xbox 360

38 Comments

lafigueroa
on Sept. 19, 2008

Forza 3 was rumored to have 3 disks worth of content, so I assume they're hard at work on that. Even if it's not true, I don't think they would leave Forza 3 in production...

TheWolf619
on Sept. 19, 2008

I'd like to see them do something similar to what Polyphony Digital did with GT2.

One disc with the simulation racing, customization, and car collecting (Forza 3) and one disc with a more Arcade feel where you can use the cars from the other disc. (PGR5)

It would be interesting to see them put that together.

ddensel
on Sept. 19, 2008

Personally I prefer Forza to PGR, there's just something about the way PGR handles that I don't dig. Adding motorcycles to the forth game seemed desperate.

But I think PGR is the bigger franchise and will sell better, so it makes business sense to move the Forza team to see what they can do for their more well known racing franchise.

I wonder if PGR5 will be for Xbox 360 or be a launch title for the next Xbox.....

ManMadeGod
on Sept. 19, 2008

Forza never clicked with me which is weird since I'm a massive GT fan. On the other hand I have been having a blast with PGR3 & 4 on my 360; it's a good alternative racer. There really are no other racing games to play besides Need for Speed and EA has run that franchise into the ground. So I guess another PGR would be great unless they try to turn it into Forza.

Lepuke
on Sept. 19, 2008

I love Forza, so I would like to see another installment of that series instead of a new PGR. Although if the studio can handle making fine versions of both franchises I'm all for that too.

jakob187 is online
on Sept. 19, 2008

I remember the rumor for the 2-3 discs worth of content for Forza 3, with something like over 1,000 different cars and 200 tracks or something.

Let's all be honest here. PGR is a great game in terms of physics and overall beauty and such, but when it comes down to it, menu-based pick-and-choose racing with stock, uncustomized cars just isn't that much fun. Even a game as pretty and amazing well-built as Grid just doesn't hold up for much replay value when you can't tune your shit.

And this is coming from a hardcore Grid fan.

So enough said. I could deal with PGR going bye-bye and having Turn 10 and M$ stickin' with Forza.

Besides, I don't think we could take another GT game without some form of competition to prove why they are better. = D

d0x
on Sept. 19, 2008

If the next Forza is delayed for even 1 day because of PGR I will not buy either game. I have gotten every game in the PGR line and I even have Metropolis Street Racer for Dreamcast BUT I love sims and Forza 2 is the king so Forza 3 could only be better. I've already waited long enough for it.

I bought Gran Turismo: P to try and hold me over but honestly the game played just like GT3 and 4 with better graphics. Same old physics, same old AI. Where is my Forza 3!?

NarcolepticBat
on Sept. 19, 2008

the fact that larry says in the video "the goatee is on the last page" then he pauses for a minute before switching pages makes me believe the video wasnt in face in real time and was being controlled by some xbox d00d.

ferrarimanf355
on Sept. 19, 2008

Five grand, FIVE GRAND, says I'll buy whatever Turn 10 does next... am I doing it right?

Godzilla_Sushi
on Sept. 19, 2008

Yeah we kind of knew this before we even knew this. I know right!

It'll definitely be nice to see a yearly release from Turn 10 instead of having to wait two years for their magic. Plus, well, where did Forza 3 go again? I want it, and badly.

Destroyeron
on Sept. 19, 2008

Played PGR for a good 30 seconds, hated every second of it.

It's also good to see every console except the Wii, trying to be the Wii; which I consider unfortunate, cause I don't care for that either.

Milkman
on Sept. 19, 2008

I think I'd rather have a new Forza but I'm definitely not going to complain about a Turn 10 developed Project Gotham Racing.

MrKlorox is online
on Sept. 19, 2008

Wow... Brad appears to have the same dislike for Massive Explosive image captions as ever.

I never got into the PGR series at all. It isn't my type of racer. I thought Forza 2 was interesting, but it didn't keep me enthralled as long as I would have liked. I am curious to see how the next Forza and PGR turn out though... but for now I'm looking at Midnight Club LA more closely.

EDIT: Hooray for avatar belching. Too bad it also doesn't fart like in the top down GTAs when you press the horn while on foot.

Gregomasta
on Sept. 19, 2008

I am sick of avatars, Mii's were enough, I hope theirs an option to NOT have an avatar in this new xbox OS update.

TheWorstPlayerEver
on Sept. 19, 2008

I love the PGR series way more than Forza. My buddy and me race online in PGR4 all the time and it never gets old

jakob187 is online
on Sept. 19, 2008

Yes, there is an option to keep the old blade-style Xbox setup if you don't like the new one...as far as I remember hearing. I don't work for Microsoft, and besides...even if you asked them if there was an option, we know what they'd say: W.D.N.C.O.R.O.S.

Subway
on Sept. 20, 2008

360 Needs more racing games, and luckily Turn 10 makes great games. I hope if they are making PGR5 they will make it more sim styled though.

The_A_Drain
on Sept. 20, 2008

Forza was a pile. Car sims just dont sit well with me, PGR on the other hand rocked the house down, its the only racing game i've ever legitimately enjoyed. Different things for different people I suppose, but I wholeheartedly disagree with the comments along the lines of "Forza should be more arcadey" or "PGR should be more simulation this time" no way no how. You want a sim, stick to your sim, you want an arcadey racer, stick to those dont attempt to blur the lines, or change a series, it just alienates everybody.

cikame
on Sept. 20, 2008

Terrible idea, i absolutely hated forza2, pgr4 is the best racing game i've ever played.

Thats like getting the developers of Hour of Victory to make Half-Life 3.

DiGiTaL_SiN
on Sept. 20, 2008

I like PGR alot! More than Forza I might add.

Too much sim=not much fun.

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