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Added by Jeff on Oct. 16, 2008 32 comments
50 Cent, rapping.
While we're on the subject, I heard 50 Cent was going to claim that his next record and video game would outsell Kanye, Warcraft, and Warhammer COMBINED. Either that or he'd threaten to retire... again.
I thought you might be interested in checking out a pair of stories from MTV Multiplayer with comments from World of Warcraft's game director, Jeff Kaplan, and Warhammer Online's head guy, Mark Jacobs, on their respective games. Actually, I guess most of the talk is specifically about Warhammer. But it's interesting to watch them sort of poke and jab back and forth.

The original interview with Jeff Kaplan took place during Blizzard's annual BlizzCon and seems to be focused on who was in who's beta. Apparently Blizzard reached out to the great uniter, Paul Barnett, to allow Mythic's posse into the Wrath of the Lich King beta. But Mythic's policies prevented any sort of official reciprocation with the Warhammer beta.

This brings us to rap beef in video game interview form, where Kaplan is quoted by MTV as saying "I’m always fascinated by betas in general and [non-disclosure agreements] and how tight-lipped they tend to be. It’s Blizzard philosophy that if you’re really confident in your game, then you have nothing to worry about. So I guess that would be my big take away from that."

OH SNAP SON NO HE DIDN'T IT AIN'T BEEN ON LIKE THIS SINCE 'KISS WAS ON THE PHONE WITH GREEN LANTERN, REAL TALK FAMILY... ahem... sorry.

Kaplan then goes on to talk about his experience with Warhammer, which sort of mirrors mine, though I haven't been able to play very much (or at all, really) over the past two weeks. He claims he's on a server with 30-45-minute wait times to get into the game's PVP scenarios and that a lot of the public quests are empty. Sure sounds like Mordheim to me.

MTV got a post-publish response to the article from Mark Jacobs, leading to a second story. His responses are what led me to write this in the first place, because it sounds weirdly defensive for a game that, by most accounts, seems to be doing just fine. Heck, I like it, anyway. Take this bit from the MTV story, for example...

Referring to Kaplan’s mention of the 30-45 minute wait times for battlegrounds (called “Scenarios” in “Warhammer Online”), Jacobs said that “World of Warcraft” also had long queues just to get into the servers to play the game when it first launched in 2004.

So... your defense against wait times is that a game released four years ago also had the same problem? Shouldn't your game be, like, evolving and fixing the problems that have plagued previous games in the genre?

Then there's this one...

I think you’ll find that if you’re actually going to compare the two products, I would say ‘WoW’ is certainly a more polished game now than ‘Warhammer is — of course they’ve had four years and billions of dollars — but if you look at the innovations in ‘Warhammer,’ you’d be hard-pressed to find as many in ‘WoW.’

You've been working on Warhammer for three years, haven't you? And you've had the benefit of seeing what Blizzard is up to for that entire time period. And you're owned by EA. They... aren't exactly broke. The aside of "of course they've had four years and billions of dollars" is totally Crazy Town from where I'm sitting. Butterfly. Sugar, baby. All of that.

I don't know, maybe it's the jet lag talking, but reading these stories reminds me of the Presidential debate with all the somewhat-petty bickering, except we don't get incredibly creepy footage of a guy constantly blinking and sort of looking like his head might explode.

  


33 Comments

griefersstolemykeyboard
on Oct. 16, 2008
huh and here I thought you all at the giantbomb loved warhammer and hated wow with a passion (referring to the article about a vanity mount in wow taken far to serious) Anyway, ye I agree with you a 100%

Milkman
on Oct. 16, 2008
It seems that Mark Jacobs should probably think a little more before he says these kind of things. Or better yet just let Paul Barnett do all the PR for Warhammer.

GalvanizedNails
on Oct. 16, 2008
lol nothing to really do with the article but the videos sound isnt working for me. i would love to see a gang war between mythic and blizzard. should be awesome

Tarsier
on Oct. 16, 2008
I don't understand this. Why is this news worthy? It hurts my brain.

Kohe321
on Oct. 16, 2008
Mark jacobs owns hard!! GO MYTHIC!

Bmasterlord
on Oct. 16, 2008
It seems you guys are throwing in little political jabs ( targeted at McCain specifically, or talking up Obama) whenever you can I for one find it distasteful and it is turning me off quite a bit.

GalvanizedNails
on Oct. 16, 2008
Bmasterlord said "It seems you guys are throwing in little political jabs ( targeted at McCain specifically, or talking up Obama) whenever you can I for one find it distasteful and it is turning me off quite a bit." I agree with you about throwing in the politcal stuff and that its focused against McCain but Jeff is entitled to his opinion. Im fine with that as long as the site doesnt officially endorse obama or anything.

Kraznor
on Oct. 16, 2008
Yeah, McCain sure blinks a lot. Probably the one thing I took away from last night's debate.

Chocobo_Blitzer
on Oct. 16, 2008
I dislike Kaplan's comments, Mark's response, and Jeff's post. All the text I read seemed hopelessly out of touch. Also, political thing at the end. Sweet....

Lingxor
on Oct. 16, 2008
It started out somewhat promising but eventually I discovered that the really time viable way to progress in the game is to grind scenarios over and over... Which is exactly what I would be doing in WoW.

Yawn.

Torb
on Oct. 16, 2008
Yea, I agree with Bmasterlord....

I don't mind if you include some politics, but one post featuring Obama and the other dissing McCain in such a short time seems kind of unnecessary. At least keep it looking unbiased. I really don't like either candidate, but just try and keep it fair if not professional...

Jeff
on Oct. 16, 2008
Let's just say that if you are taking "McCain blinks a lot" and "there are Obama ads in video games" to be positive or negative political statements on my part then you have become far too wrapped up in the minor sideshows of these campaigns and should probably turn off your television to think harder about whatever issues you actually care about.

Sgt_T1bbs
on Oct. 16, 2008
the Jeff has spoken!...and i agree.

GalvanizedNails
on Oct. 16, 2008
jeff just put me to shame. looking back at my comments i have been digging a bit too deep into this. sorry guys :(

goodlucktj
on Oct. 16, 2008
so now this is run like a bar in hell's kitchen? no politics, no religion?!?

i'm pretty sure the giant bomb crew can say whatever they like about whatever they like. if you want to cry about jeff linking a youtube video of mccain looking weird, dry your eyes at huffpost.

get back on point people. warcraft and warhammer. post what you know.

CodeMunki
on Oct. 16, 2008

In Jacobs' defense, Blizzard's solution to login queues was to wait for people to leave the high population servers so that there were no more queues.  It took a while.  They also split servers when BC came out, which sometimes involved involuntarily migrating (or splitting up) entire guilds.  It's not like they came up with some sort of genius engineering solution to the problem.  I believe that's what Jacobs was inferring in the quote: it'll work itself out over time, just like WoW.

 Warhammer's solution to early launch queues was equally acceptable.  They aren't forcing players to move, but giving them the option to move their uber level 7 characters without losing progress.  Some people made a choice they weren't happy with and lost a couple of hours of progress.  What more do you expect them to do?

Luckily, my guild was smart enough to start the entire guild over on a low-population server a couple of days into launch.  We have no login queues and can do 2-4 Scenarios an hour if desired.   Public Quests are still empty, but you can't force people to do them all at the same time.  It's an issue out of Mythic's control.


TheHT
on Oct. 16, 2008
omg, politics in the gaming world. :O

Bmasterlord
on Oct. 16, 2008
At the end of the day it isn't the end of the world, I still love and will continue to use this site, but come on don't say it isn't there. Saying "incredibly creepy footage of a guy constantly blinking and sort of looking like his head might explode" is not just saying dude blinks a lot, it has a much more negative tone to it. I think it is fairly obvious who you guys are backing and it is showing in some of the stories comments, which as I said I find distasteful.

Crono
on Oct. 16, 2008
this was one action packed article!

jersoc
on Oct. 17, 2008
2 companies in competition dissing each other? Shocking, simply shocking.
Hey Blizzard, at least we can loot in warhammer at launch. So they have that on your game.



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