Ni No Kuni is a 2 part file download from PSN Store NA

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#1 Posted by ShinjiEx (625 posts) -

File 1 marked PS3 game 6GB

File 2 not marked 16GB

Total being 22GB

It's also priced at $55 hey $5 is $5 LOL

But $50 makes more since for new digital video games minus - $10 from the disc/package cost and the middle man retail store

And now we play the waiting game for it to finish downloading ^__^

#2 Posted by Mesoian (1574 posts) -

Ugh man. It's cool that it can be downloaded, but I don't know if I can get behind a 22gb download. This is precisely the bottleneck our glorious no retail future has.

I'll pick it up on my way home from work tomorrow. The download wouldn't be finished until tomorrow anyway with the way PSN is.

#3 Posted by Marz (5658 posts) -

yeah i was thinking about buying the digital version..... to save that 5$  but then i saw my PS3 has 18GB of storage free... i decided against it and just bought the disc version.   Maybe one of those files is the voice archive.

#4 Posted by Shaunage (715 posts) -

Keep in mind PS3 games require double the space to begin the download because of the install processs. It may not even be possible to download this on a totally empty 40gb console.

#5 Posted by kishinfoulux (2402 posts) -

@Shaunage said:

Keep in mind PS3 games require double the space to begin the download because of the install processs. It may not even be possible to download this on a totally empty 40gb console.

Oh really? I had some issue when I was trying to download it earlier saying I didn't have enough room, but I had plenty it seemed. Cleared out some stuff and it's downloading fine. I definitely had more then 22GB it seems to require though.

#6 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4420 posts) -

Huh, for the first time I think I might have to check my storage left on my PS3. I might actually not be able to fit this so I'll probably go with retail.

#7 Posted by RE_Player1 (7563 posts) -

I love when people complain about digital day 1 prices. Same price as retail, whine. Small discount, complain. Looking forward to see how people deal with prices when everything is digital only.

#8 Posted by Snail (8617 posts) -

@Mesoian said:

Ugh man. It's cool that it can be downloaded, but I don't know if I can get behind a 22gb download. This is precisely the bottleneck our glorious no retail future has.

I'll pick it up on my way home from work tomorrow. The download wouldn't be finished until tomorrow anyway with the way PSN is.

It's still probably faster and definitely more convenient than driving to a retail store to pick up a game.

#9 Posted by mosespippy (4286 posts) -

@kishinfoulux said:

@Shaunage said:

Keep in mind PS3 games require double the space to begin the download because of the install processs. It may not even be possible to download this on a totally empty 40gb console.

Oh really? I had some issue when I was trying to download it earlier saying I didn't have enough room, but I had plenty it seemed. Cleared out some stuff and it's downloading fine. I definitely had more then 22GB it seems to require though.

Yeah, the download files take up space and then has to instal elsewhere. So this 22GB game would need 44GB of available space at first but it'll only take up 22GB after installation.

#10 Posted by mrcraggle (1956 posts) -

Wait, the game is $55 to download? Fuck, we are proper ripped off in the UK. Here's it's £50 to download which is just over $79 going by Google.

#11 Posted by rockhardrooster (26 posts) -

@mrcraggle: I'm pretty sure that's not how money works.

Games are 60 dollars in the US new. In sweden, they are about 600 Swedish crowns. Now, 60 dollars is more like 400-450 crowns if you exchange it, but that's not the point.

If you buy something in the US which costs 10 bucks, then it costs around 100 crowns here. Sure, some things are more expensive, and some things are less so, but the point is that the prices make sense in the countries where the product is sold.

10 bucks are worth around 100 crowns. Presumably it's worth around 10 pounds. It's also worth around 10 euro. But the exchange rate between all these currencies is nothing like that.

The one real exception to all this, that I know of, is Japan, where I've seen digital downloads for about 7000 yen in the Vita store. Again, 1000 yen is worth around 10 bucks, but the exchange rate is different.

I hope this stuff makes sense. If I'm wrong, please let me know, but this is something I've been thinking about a bunch lately. Thing is, I've been buying my digital stuff from the US PSN for a while now, since even though when you buy those point cards online, they throw on a 'tax' or something (20 dollar PSN card is 25 dollars online, ends up being about 160 crowns, thus effectively saving me about 4 bucks off of every 20 dollars I spend).

Again, anyone, if I'm wrong please explain. Not picking a fight or anything, just curious. Also I know I suck at explaining stuff.

#12 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (3577 posts) -

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Huh, for the first time I think I might have to check my storage left on my PS3. I might actually not be able to fit this so I'll probably go with retail.

Actually amazed that I still have 250 gb on a 1 tb harddrive I installed 2 years ago.

#13 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

If this was on Steam it'd only take me 30 minutes to download, but no, it's the stupid PS3 with the lack of wireless N and the PlayStation Store's often piss poor download speeds.

Hooray.

#14 Posted by audioBusting (1623 posts) -

@mrcraggle said:

Wait, the game is $55 to download? Fuck, we are proper ripped off in the UK. Here's it's £50 to download which is just over $79 going by Google.

On AU PSN it's AU$89.95. Getting a new copy from EBGames is AU$88. Barf.

#15 Posted by neato (76 posts) -

@Shaunage said:

Keep in mind PS3 games require double the space to begin the download because of the install processs. It may not even be possible to download this on a totally empty 40gb console.

i think it will be fine, since the download is in two parts (5gb and 16gb) and it automatically installs after download. so 32gb should work.

#16 Posted by Rayeth (1060 posts) -

Yep I had to leave it on most of the night to download because the PSN store hates using all my bandwidth or something.

If this was Steam 22 GB would take a few hours, with PSN it takes overnight. Tragic.

#17 Posted by ProfessorEss (7451 posts) -
@Rayeth said:

If this was Steam 22 GB would take a few hours...

At most.

@Rayeth said:

...with PSN it takes overnight. Tragic.

At least.  
 
When I do get around to getting this I think I'll just go retail.
#18 Posted by Petiew (1353 posts) -
@rockhardrooster: Yeah, you understand it better than myself but that's how it works. 
However, like@mrcraggle said the £50 price doesn't particuarly make sense in this situation. Unless you're getting ripped off by a brick and mortar store a boxed copy of this and almost every other game in the UK is being sold for £40. PSN charges £50 for the big releases. You're basically getting charged £10-15 more, whereas in the US they're receiving a $5 discount by ordering digitally.
#19 Posted by rockhardrooster (26 posts) -

@Petiew: Oh. Well, that's just fucked up then.

#20 Posted by xaLieNxGrEyx (2605 posts) -

Why would you want to download a Triple A exclusive anyway?

#21 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4976 posts) -

22GB download with PSN's download speeds. Then you have to wait for it to install? Forget that, gimme the physical copy.

#22 Posted by Marcsman (3239 posts) -

Physical copy for me anyday. Really great game BTW.

#23 Posted by OneManX (1693 posts) -

I would rather not eat the bandwidth on that one and just grab it in store.

Even if I didn't have to worry about bandwidth, there are MANY other things I would rather do then wait for a PSN download.

#24 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4420 posts) -
@I_Stay_Puft

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Huh, for the first time I think I might have to check my storage left on my PS3. I might actually not be able to fit this so I'll probably go with retail.

Actually amazed that I still have 250 gb on a 1 tb harddrive I installed 2 years ago.

I have an 80 gig on this thing with about 10 to 20 gigs left cuz that's just how little I downloaded stuff on it.
#25 Posted by mrcraggle (1956 posts) -

@rockhardrooster: My point wasn't so much about taxes but more that games in America are around $60 retail and the game was a $55 download. Here in the UK, a boxed copy of the game is around £40 but you can usually find deals for less but the download is actually £10 more. They did the same with Need 4 Speed which was £60 though.

#26 Posted by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

A friend of mine spent two weeks tryimg to download assiassians creed.

#27 Posted by Turambar (6813 posts) -

I thought about cancelling my amazon order and downloading it, then noticed I only have 13 gigs free on my HDD anyways.

#28 Posted by LosDub (198 posts) -

how do i check my free space on my ps3?

#29 Posted by TopSteer (671 posts) -

@LosDub: Go to system settings then scroll down to system information.

#30 Posted by ShinjiEx (625 posts) -

We Comcast/Xfinity kewl kids in NA can download 22GB in around 4 hours minus - the 1 hours install

Downloaded at 3AM was playing it at around 8:30AM

#31 Edited by Mesoian (1574 posts) -

@Snail said:

@Mesoian said:

Ugh man. It's cool that it can be downloaded, but I don't know if I can get behind a 22gb download. This is precisely the bottleneck our glorious no retail future has.

I'll pick it up on my way home from work tomorrow. The download wouldn't be finished until tomorrow anyway with the way PSN is.

It's still probably faster and definitely more convenient than driving to a retail store to pick up a game.

For the record, you were totally fucking right. Should have just downloaded it last night. ::Flips off target::

#32 Posted by Turambar (6813 posts) -

@Mesoian said:

@Snail said:

@Mesoian said:

Ugh man. It's cool that it can be downloaded, but I don't know if I can get behind a 22gb download. This is precisely the bottleneck our glorious no retail future has.

I'll pick it up on my way home from work tomorrow. The download wouldn't be finished until tomorrow anyway with the way PSN is.

It's still probably faster and definitely more convenient than driving to a retail store to pick up a game.

For the record, you were totally fucking right. Should have just downloaded it last night. ::Flips off target::

Was there actually a copy there? Between a Walmart, a Bestbuy, a Target, and two Gamestops, no luck this morning. Good thing they were all just one the way for another actual errand I was running or else that would have been one giant waste of time.

#33 Posted by Mesoian (1574 posts) -

@Turambar said:

@Mesoian said:

@Snail said:

@Mesoian said:

Ugh man. It's cool that it can be downloaded, but I don't know if I can get behind a 22gb download. This is precisely the bottleneck our glorious no retail future has.

I'll pick it up on my way home from work tomorrow. The download wouldn't be finished until tomorrow anyway with the way PSN is.

It's still probably faster and definitely more convenient than driving to a retail store to pick up a game.

For the record, you were totally fucking right. Should have just downloaded it last night. ::Flips off target::

Was there actually a copy there? Between a Walmart, a Bestbuy, a Target, and two Gamestops, no luck this morning. Good thing they were all just one the way for another actual errand I was running or else that would have been one giant waste of time.

Nope, and they were TBA for getting more copies. Best buy and game stop have "try back in 3-5 days". I just said "fuck it", went home, and started the download. It's been about 10 minutesa and it's 10% complete with the first part...maybe this might be done tonight?

#34 Edited by handlas (2700 posts) -

My Best Buy says they have copies of it at their store ("available"). Go to the store today after work and can't find it anywhere. Don't know why I ever bother with Best Buy anymore. Happens more times than not that they just don't have new releases out on shelves. Gonna have to Amazon it because i certainly don't have enough harddrive space.

#35 Posted by MikkaQ (10318 posts) -

If you live in Canada and use certain ISPs, that 5 dollar discount wouldn't even make up for the bandwidth you used to download 21 gigs. Just a funny fact.

#36 Edited by Cincaid (2958 posts) -

@rockhardrooster: Not to mention that here in Sweden (jag är också Svensk!) taxes are always included in the price you see, while in the US taxes are added once you make the purchase. So if a game is $10 in the US, that equals $10 + taxes. In Sweden the price is 100kr including taxes (moms). Unless I somehow misunderstood how things work over there.

Personally I definitely prefer to see the "full" price from the get-go, rather than trying to count out the final price in my head after adding taxes.

EDIT: Whoops, guess I should have read your entire post. Never mind me, I'm an idiot.

#37 Posted by Trilleong (80 posts) -

I checked every store in town today and the only place that had it was Gamestop. The problem is that they only had one copy and it was reserved. I was annoyed as if that guy hadn't picked up his copy three days after it came out it should be fair game. I came home disappointed because even Amazon didn't have it and with a snowstorm going strong outside I wasn't willing to drive anywhere(my friend and I actually slid off the road into a ditch on the way home) over an hour away to get a copy so I happily bought the digital version and then slept all day while it downloaded for about 8 hours. I don't have a huge PS3 library so the 22 gigs doesn't bother me.

#38 Posted by TheeGravedigger (93 posts) -

I didn't realize that this was available as a digital download. I had go clear across the city to find a store that still had copies.

Still, I think I'd rather have a disc than a 22 GB download.

#39 Posted by rethla (624 posts) -

What 22Gb? Mine only downloaded 6Gb whats up with that, did i miss one part?

#40 Posted by Devil240Z (3396 posts) -

I have the 6 gig file downloaded. but the 16 gig file is at like 10%. I'm just wondering if the 6 gig file contains the first part of the game or something so I can start playing now instead of waiting another year and a half for this shit to download.

#41 Posted by Sanity (1940 posts) -

@Devil240Z said:

I have the 6 gig file downloaded. but the 16 gig file is at like 10%. I'm just wondering if the 6 gig file contains the first part of the game or something so I can start playing now instead of waiting another year and a half for this shit to download.

No, you have to install them both before you can play the game.

It took me about 5 hours to download it followed by a hour install so it wasn't that bad for me. Still faster then getting it shipped.

#42 Posted by HatKing (6025 posts) -

So, with PSN's speeds I should be playing this just in time for GOTY discussions. That seems perfect to me.

#43 Posted by SethMode (42 posts) -

@neato said:

@Shaunage said:

Keep in mind PS3 games require double the space to begin the download because of the install processs. It may not even be possible to download this on a totally empty 40gb console.

i think it will be fine, since the download is in two parts (5gb and 16gb) and it automatically installs after download. so 32gb should work.

You had my hopes up for a moment, then I realized that even with pretty much EVERYTHING deleted, I still only had 31gb free. Fucking Sony man. I'm now formatting the damn thing, even though I just KNOW that it will require a firmware update to get into the store which will screw me in terms of available free space. What twat waffle at Sony thought needing double the free space of a file in order to download said file would be a good idea? Or at least, couldn't they have made it 3 files? I can work the space even with my lowly 40gb one, just not in a single large lump.

#44 Posted by Shaunage (715 posts) -

@SethMode: With my 40gb COMPLETELY empty, I was only JUST able to download and install Infamous 2, which I think was 17gb.

#45 Posted by SethMode (42 posts) -

@Shaunage: That's at least somewhat reassuring. Maybe after this format (2.5 hours...*sigh*) I'll have enough to get the 16 gig part downloaded and installed. After that it should work out fine. I just really can't wrap my head around this idea of 16 gigs actually equals 32 gigs. Isn't it 2013?

#46 Posted by PenguinDust (12558 posts) -

It would take me 4 days to download that. Whenever I don't load something off Steam, I need to start it the night before, leave it running through the day while I am at work and maybe it will be done when I get home. It took me a week to download the DCU Online MMO from the PS3 store.

#47 Posted by rethla (624 posts) -

@SethMode said:

@Shaunage: That's at least somewhat reassuring. Maybe after this format (2.5 hours...*sigh*) I'll have enough to get the 16 gig part downloaded and installed. After that it should work out fine. I just really can't wrap my head around this idea of 16 gigs actually equals 32 gigs. Isn't it 2013?

Is 32Gb to much to ask for 2013?

#48 Posted by anywhereilay (153 posts) -
@msavo said:
I love when people complain about digital day 1 prices. Same price as retail, whine. Small discount, complain. Looking forward to see how people deal with prices when everything is digital only.
Try £50 in the UK, which is £10 above retail. Wanna get FAR CRY 3? £60. In the UK the complaints on new games like this are more than valid. Those prices are MENTAL.
#49 Posted by Fire_Of_The_Wind (171 posts) -

@anywhereilay said:

@msavo said:
I love when people complain about digital day 1 prices. Same price as retail, whine. Small discount, complain. Looking forward to see how people deal with prices when everything is digital only.
Try £50 in the UK, which is £10 above retail. Wanna get FAR CRY 3? £60. In the UK the complaints on new games like this are more than valid. Those prices are MENTAL.

I came in to say this, for the longest time I thought that the prices in the US was the same, as in around $80 for new games on PSN, but I was surprised when I saw that they were equal to retail, sometimes cheaper.

I would buy more retail games from PSN if it wasn't for the stupid pricing of just switching the $ sign to £. I can usually find games in shops for £10-15 cheaper than PSN, just stupid.

I don't know what the problem with PSN in the US but for me and my friends we get the full download speed without any problems.

#50 Posted by anywhereilay (153 posts) -
@Fire_Of_The_Wind: Yes, the fact that they are selling it well above the RRP is absurd. I'd like to see some statistics for how many people actually buy these games at those prices. Especially Far Cry 3 for £60. I simply can't see it.

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