NG3 is all hype and no delivery

#1 Edited by terrancejwatts (5 posts) -

i just finished the game and it only took me a day, it'll be back at gamestop before they close tonight. i'm a die-hard NG fan and i'm appalled. my advice is to write it off and save yourself time and money. storyline sucks, combos are weak, combat has no depth, and as far as i know there is no item shop or weapon selection. i'll just stick with NG black and NG sigma 2 while denying this game even exists.....Oh and so everyone knows. one of the founding fathers of ninja gaiden quit the team because he couldn't convince the rest of the team to change the game. what does that tell YOU?

#2 Posted by Demoskinos (14724 posts) -

@terrancejwatts: Whatever dude. There are ALL the combos in the old games and even some new ones. Theres TONS of new ways to combo into the Izuna Drop. The combat has plenty of depth you just can't play it like the previous two games. Shurikens, Wind Jumping and Wall attacks are almost ever a decent option in a fight but the actual ground combat is great.

#3 Posted by LiquidPrince (15901 posts) -

You can pretty much do all the same combos from the old games granted you don't just mash the square button...

#4 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

If you play on hard there is no way you can get by with button mashing. Day 4 is kicking my ass.

#5 Posted by CheapPoison (727 posts) -

Was there even hype?

#6 Posted by AssInAss (2598 posts) -

Would you say it's more foreplay but no release?

#7 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

Come hard or don't come at all.

#8 Posted by redbliss (647 posts) -

Did it even have hype?

#9 Posted by Rumour (95 posts) -

I haven't played this yet, but my biggest concern is that orbs don't rise out of enemies after they die. (Well at least in the quick look they didn't)

That would be a huge problem for me because all I used to do was the instant ultimate technique by sucking up those orbs... So is that no longer in the game? Do I have to stand there and charge my ultimate technique like a sucker now?

#10 Posted by niamahai (1405 posts) -

How's the ending!?

#11 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -

Is it as difficult as the previous games?

#12 Posted by CptBedlam (4449 posts) -

@terrancejwatts: Why stick to the toned-down, gore-less Sigma 2? Stick to Ninja Gaiden 2!

#13 Posted by Dragon_Blade (10 posts) -

He beat it on easy mode. No way it took him a few hours on hard mode. He's a dirty troll or just being obnoxious but either it's his loss. I have the CE and i don't regret it at all.

#14 Edited by terrancejwatts (5 posts) -

@Dragon_Blade: believe what u want, i've got nothing to prove. and it took me almost 30 hours.

#15 Posted by NegativeCero (2988 posts) -
@CheapPoison

Was there even hype?

@redbliss

Did it even have hype?

#16 Posted by terrancejwatts (5 posts) -

@LiquidPrince: get to the second to last boss on hard and then talk shit. till then shut the fuck up

#17 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

@AssInAss said:

Would you say it's more foreplay but no release?

If there's no release during foreplay, then she's probably doing it wrong. Or you're doing it wrong.

I should go.

#18 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4358 posts) -

@TentPole said:

Come hard or don't come at all.

Good things come in ninjas....wait

#19 Posted by LiquidPrince (15901 posts) -

@terrancejwatts said:

@LiquidPrince: get to the second to last boss on hard and then talk shit. till then shut the fuck up

Apparently you didn't understand what I said... So your autopilot response was to be a jackass. I was SUPPORTING the game by saying that all the old combos ARE still in the game, so if you do anything other then just mash square you will be able to have a way more varied set of gameplay.

#20 Posted by TobbRobb (4588 posts) -

@terrancejwatts said:

@LiquidPrince: get to the second to last boss on hard and then talk shit. till then shut the fuck up

Hey, new users. How fun.

#21 Posted by jakkblades (402 posts) -

The customization of weapons and special moves are just important to me as any perceived notion of relative difficulty. Yet no one has addressed these issues to me.

#22 Posted by ArtelinaRose (1850 posts) -

so glad this merge with gamespot brought intelligent users with constructive posts

#23 Posted by NTM (7320 posts) -

You mean, NO hype, no delivery?

#24 Posted by TentPole (1858 posts) -

@terrancejwatts said:

...Oh and so everyone knows. one of the founding fathers of ninja gaiden quit the team because he couldn't convince the rest of the team to change the game. what does that tell YOU?

I am pretty sure you pulled that out of your ass and don't know what you are talking about.

#25 Posted by clumsyninja1 (817 posts) -

Try Ninja Gaiden II for the 360, it will own you no matter what...

#26 Posted by OneManX (1685 posts) -

Yo... this game is kinda lame compared to the other games.

You should probably play the other games.

#27 Edited by BoOzak (902 posts) -

@TentPole said:

@terrancejwatts said:

...Oh and so everyone knows. one of the founding fathers of ninja gaiden quit the team because he couldn't convince the rest of the team to change the game. what does that tell YOU?

I am pretty sure you pulled that out of your ass and don't know what you are talking about.

He didnt quit because he couldnt convince the team to change the game, he quit because he wasnt given his bonus for working on Ninja Gaiden 2. This has since been settled out of court, but the experience resulted in him (Tomonobu Itagaki) leaving the company, along with all the core staff at Team Ninja.

As for the game, a few key techniques were stripped out, most notably the guillotine throw. I'm guessing this had something to do with the limited invunerability glitch that occured in 2 that would allow people to continously GT people without taking any damage, seems like a lazy fix to to me but I never used the move. It didnt seem useful in 2 anyway. (aside from the glitch)

And yeah as the OP has said the lack of additional weapons and shops sucks. Personally I miss healing items, choosing when to use them or save them added some extra depth to the game. The story was also complete trash, granted 1&2's were pretty terrible but they all felt like they were excuses to get you from one place to another. Here the cutscenes just take up time and make you feel like less of a badass in the process.

I beat the game on "Normal" initially I played on "Hard" because i'd beaten the first 2 that way but after realising that the only difference was: enemys do more damage, you do less damage. I said "fuck it, the game's already a grind, and all this is doing is making it more tedious" and for those of you who say "All games difficulty scaling works that way" you're wrong. NG1 not only had items and weapons placed in different locations but you'd fight completely different enemys, some of which werent even featured in the the default difficulty at all.

One of my friends who's admittedly better at the game than me went through it on Hard, and the saddest part is he got less achievements than I did. Now normally this wouldnt matter (especially if you dont give 2 shits about achievements/trophys) because if the game were any good you could easily just beat normal and get the other 2 achievements and call it a day, but the games so bad we just wanted to get rid of it. Another playthrough just seemed like torture.

And the multiplayer is laugably bad, I woud've much rathered more single player trials. The only reason I prefer single player to co-op is enemys dont seem to react well to multiple people hitting them, which for me ruined the experience (competitive and co-op) I guess all games need to have multiplayer though these days so this would've been easily forgiveable had the story not been stuffed with cringe worthy cutscenes, tons of bugs and QTE's.

Even somebody who isnt willing to commit to a challenge and would rather play games like God of War or Dante's Inferno etc. have better options available to them, at least those games had upgradable items and some variety. Not to mention NG3 never even comes close to the epicness of the set peices featured in those games. Honestly I think Conan is a better game than this, and i'm not joking.

(Sorry... I just had to get that off my chest, I really loved the first two games)

EDIT: As "TentPole" has pointed out it was DOA4 not NG2 that resulted in Itagaki leaving, still you can be sure none of this would've happend had he not.

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