wth do we have to do with DMC or Bayonetta

#1 Posted by HaniBall (313 posts) -

It seems that all of a sudden NG is being put in the same category as GoW, DMC and - oh Lord - Bayonetstockings.
 
Huh? Does NG have giant weapons, no. Do we fly, no. AoE attacks? hell no.
 
Sorry, I love GoW but it's a different animal. DMC is meh, and I while I enjoyed the demo of Bayonetta they cannot be serious about it being somehow similar to NG ..?
 
Sorry for the rant.
 
J/out

#2 Posted by AjayRaz (12418 posts) -

what? i don't remember hearing anything like that

#3 Posted by Three0neFive (2288 posts) -

They're all hack-n-slash games, though all very different kinds of hack-n-slash.

#4 Posted by eclipsesis (1242 posts) -
@Three0neFive said:
" They're all hack-n-slash games, though all very different kinds of hack-n-slash. "
here's your answer
#5 Posted by ErgoProxy77 (550 posts) -
@joest01: Apology accepted.
#6 Posted by vinsanity09 (210 posts) -
@joest01 said:
" It seems that all of a sudden NG is being put in the same category as GoW, DMC and - oh Lord - Bayonetstockings.  Huh? Does NG have giant weapons, no. Do we fly, no. AoE attacks? hell no.  Sorry, I love GoW but it's a different animal. DMC is meh, and I while I enjoyed the demo of Bayonetta they cannot be serious about it being somehow similar to NG ..? Sorry for the rant.  J/out " 
I have to disagree with you there, DMC 3 is, in my opinion, the best hack-n-slash game that you can find
#7 Posted by vinsanity09 (210 posts) -
@Three0neFive said:
" They're all hack-n-slash games, though all very different kinds of hack-n-slash. "
pretty much, yeah
#8 Posted by SJSchmidt93 (4888 posts) -

I'm assuming you helped make NGS2... judging by your title.

#9 Edited by pause422 (6172 posts) -
@Three0neFive said:

" They're all hack-n-slash games, though all very different kinds of hack-n-slash. "

Pretty much. This rant is meaningless, NG isn't another genre of game from any of them..it doesn't fit anywhere else, of course it is going to be bunched up here. Its like Halo and Battlefield, they are going to both be in the same category being FPS, but are nothing similar other than the main part of what makes the genre.
#10 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

They are all 3rd person fighting games.

#11 Posted by HaniBall (313 posts) -

Oh meaningless.
 
So the next Ninja Gaiden will come complete with quick time events and stupid azz AoE attacks. 
 
Sorry.
 
I can see how Dante's I is similat to GoW.
I can see how B.is similar to DMC.
 
But I want to see you make your way through NG spamming XXY

#12 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1478 posts) -
@joest01: Well I did go through NG using about, three combos...
#13 Posted by JohnnyAutoFire (353 posts) -

Clicked on this thinking you were talking about a different DMC: 
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I'm an idiot... 
#14 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@joest01 said:
" Oh meaningless.  So the next Ninja Gaiden will come complete with quick time events and stupid azz AoE attacks.   Sorry.  I can see how Dante's I is similat to GoW. I can see how B.is similar to DMC.  But I want to see you make your way through NG spamming XXY "
So lemme see I understand this correctly.
 
You see nothing similar in 3 games that all use 3rd person perspective where the player character punches kicks, slices and/or shoots projectiles at enemies?
#15 Posted by HaniBall (313 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow: 
Let's put Demons Souls in the same category then!
And Way of the Samurai too
 
Also, Mirrors Edge (NG) is the  same game as PoP (B.)
 
Bring bigger guns peoplez
#16 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@super_mario_john said:
" Clicked on this thinking you were talking about a different DMC: 
 
          I'm an idiot...  "
/me cries at the loss of Jam Master Jay. May his white Adidas shoes shine forever in heaven. Amen.
#17 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@joest01 said:
" @SeriouslyNow:  Let's put Demons Souls in the same category then! And Way of the Samurai too  Also, Mirrors Edge (NG) is the  same game as PoP (B.)  Bring bigger guns peoplez "
No. Demons Souls is an RPG, it's focus is on character development and collecting loot.  Way of the Samurai is an action adventure game, it's focus is on story with some historical context.  Mirror's Edge is not the same as Prince of Persia because ME is first person while every PoP game has been 3rd person, even the first two by Jordan Mechner, except that were flick scrollers.
 
You sure you wanna try this on with me?
#18 Posted by Yummylee (21280 posts) -
@Three0neFive said:
"They're all hack-n-slash games, though all very different kinds of hack-n-slash. "

Ayupp
#19 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

Ninja Gaiden does have giant weapons and a bunch of corny exploitative bullshit, and its "hardcore". That's the connection.

#20 Posted by HaniBall (313 posts) -
@SeriouslyNow: well suddenly you are introducing a whole lot of additional criteria. 
 
Me: I loved GoW on the PSP. Only platform I played it on. DMC,  played it on the ps3, meh, too easy. Didnt feel nothing like GoW btw.
 
Give Demons Souls a spin btw. If you like NG you may just like it more than B.... Just maybe. You know.
 
 Perhaps.
#21 Posted by Bigandtasty (3202 posts) -
@super_mario_john: It's okay. I clicked on this thinking he was talking about a girl's bayonet.
#22 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@joest01 said:
" @SeriouslyNow: well suddenly you are introducing a whole lot of additional criteria.  "
Being obtuse doesn't make you right.  In your first two examples, it may have been possible, except that their focus isn't on the action.  In your last example, which you obviously pulled from your rectum in desperation, you don't seem know the difference between 3rd an 1st person.
#23 Posted by punkxblaze (2957 posts) -
@joest01 said:
" @SeriouslyNow: well suddenly you are introducing a whole lot of additional criteria.   Me: I loved GoW on the PSP. Only platform I played it on. DMC,  played it on the ps3, meh, too easy. Didnt feel nothing like GoW btw.  Give Demons Souls a spin btw. If you like NG you may just like it more than B.... Just maybe. You know.   Perhaps. "
Go play Devil May Cry 3 and tell me it's too easy.
#24 Posted by ImperiousRix (2963 posts) -
@pause422 said:
"@Three0neFive said:

" They're all hack-n-slash games, though all very different kinds of hack-n-slash. "

Pretty much. This rant is meaningless, NG isn't another genre of game from any of them..it doesn't fit anywhere else, of course it is going to be bunched up here. Its like Halo and Battlefield, they are going to both be in the same category being FPS, but are nothing similar other than the main part of what makes the genre. "
Exactly this.  Just because Warcraft uses a high-fantasy theme and Command and Conquer uses a futuristic warfare type theme, and just because they may use different mechanics does not mean that they do not both classify as real-time strategies. 
Inherent differences does not a new genre make.  What would you like Ninja Gaiden to be compared to?  Itself and only itself?
#25 Posted by HaniBall (313 posts) -

OK apologies for real this time
 DMC3
bowing before it
DMC4
NOT SO MUCH
 
But that gets us WAY off track. 
Ninja Gaiden just feels different to these games. EVERY enemy you meet has a certain weight to them. I don't know how to explain. I am also too drunk.

#26 Posted by ThatFrood (3373 posts) -

oh, he's drunk you guys. It's cool. Everything's cool.

#27 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

Gee, and here I was thinking he was being a dick.  How silly of me.

#28 Edited by Gamer_152 (14054 posts) -

People just group the kind of games you've described together for the purposes of genre-classification, I seriously doubt there are many out there with proper knowledge of video games who think God of War and Ninja Gaiden are virtually the same game. I must admit I got a bit lost in your argument around the time you started saying grouping Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry together was the same as calling Demon's Souls a hack-and-slash game though.

Moderator
#29 Posted by Phished0ne (2485 posts) -
@joest01 said:
" I am also too drunk. "
Quick someone unplug his computer before he makes a bigger jerk out of himself 
#30 Posted by HaniBall (313 posts) -
@Phished0ne said:
" @joest01 said:
" I am also too drunk. "
Quick someone unplug his computer before he makes a bigger jerk out of himself  "
Thank you so much for the chaperoening.
Not really .
Go talk about something you know more than nothing about. 
 
 ...
Demons souls comes up naturally as NG is considered a tough game as is DS. Also both use sword, blocking stance ... As does WotS3
 
Anyhow. I got overexcited u peoplz are quite happy being Bayonetta/2
More power to you!!
 
J.
#31 Posted by Breadfan (6589 posts) -

You are really getting this upset over the categorization of a game?  

#32 Edited by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -
@joest01 said:

" u peoplz are quite happy being Bayonetta/2 "

"divided over Bayonetta also" ?

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