Hell Hath No Fury Like a Nintendo Fan Scorned

#51 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6296 posts) -

I really should sell the fucking thing. I got suckered into adopting early and since then I've yet to play a single game on it that I really enjoy playing. I gave Ridge Racer 3D a shot, but racing games just don't hold my interest. I even bought fucking Ocarina of Time and it just bored the shit out of me (yeah, yeah, yeah, save it fanboys). I couldn't give two shits about this add-on. It's not like the Wii Motion Plus was used much by 3rd party developers, same with that balance board. I just want a fucking game to play, is that too much to ask Nintendo? And I'd prefer if there was actually, you know, one or two third party developers that would actually support the thing instead of loading it with shovelware (with Namco and Capcom being the only two real exceptions). /rant.

#52 Posted by thehuntsmen5434 (427 posts) -

I don't get this.  Especially when their marketing Monster Hunter 3 to be used with it when monster hunter was always on PSP with just one analog.  It worked fine then.

#53 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
#54 Posted by potyra (2 posts) -

This is why I don't buy 1st gen hardware.

#55 Posted by Chris2KLee (2334 posts) -
@RedRocketWestie a battery would be nice, and make sense considering MH tends to be a game that sucks up a lot of time. Probably not free, but maybe as a pack in with MH trial the price might be more acceptable to fans.
#56 Posted by Protonguy (305 posts) -

@EveretteScott said:

@TheKing said:

Breaking news: People on message boards like to overreact.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU IMPLYING!?

Well played sir

#57 Posted by Scrumdidlyumptious (1639 posts) -

Early adopters get fucked. Nothing new here. I'll probably get fucked over in some way a few months down the line when I buy a Vita day one, but I go in expecting that. I still doubt a future revision of the 3DS will include another circle pad, just because it seems like a pretty stupid idea and the lack of a second circle pad is the most inconsequential thing of the problems the 3DS has.

#58 Posted by BounceDK (172 posts) -

If you're dumb enough to purchase one of these overpriced handhelds, you don't even have a right to complain.

#59 Posted by buckybit (1455 posts) -

there are things ppl should care about:

  • education
  • unemployment
  • world economy
  • the state of democracy

... Nintendo (and Apple) fanboys need a break from Lala-land and care more about reality?

(I know, this is a video game website. I just don't feel your kinda pain, reading stories about nothing, like these, Nintendogs :P )

#60 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@Everyones_A_Critic said:

I really should sell the fucking thing. I got suckered into adopting early and since then I've yet to play a single game on it that I really enjoy playing. I gave Ridge Racer 3D a shot, but racing games just don't hold my interest. I even bought fucking Ocarina of Time and it just bored the shit out of me (yeah, yeah, yeah, save it fanboys). I couldn't give two shits about this add-on. It's not like the Wii Motion Plus was used much by 3rd party developers, same with that balance board. I just want a fucking game to play, is that too much to ask Nintendo? And I'd prefer if there was actually, you know, one or two third party developers that would actually support the thing instead of loading it with shovelware (with Namco and Capcom being the only two real exceptions). /rant.

You know, I'd be totally fine with Nintendo being the only publisher for their hardware if they'd just stray from the mascots and non-gaming software.  The company lives almost exclusively on nostalgia, and it was tiresome around the GameCube era.
#61 Posted by lizzard2 (53 posts) -

I don't own a 3ds so i have dodge the bullet 2 times allready.. damn i'm fast !!!!

#62 Posted by SleepyDoughnut (1208 posts) -

What is the "very specific reason" in this article?

#63 Posted by Deaditelord (14 posts) -

I'm taking a wait and see approach before I condemn Nintendo as I suspect - especially given Nintendo's track record with add ons for the Wii - that the additional analog stick will end up being included as a free pack-in with a 1st Party Nintendo game.

#64 Posted by Origina1Penguin (3501 posts) -

Clearly people have forgotten Nintendo's glorious past accessories for handhelds. Exhibit A:

#65 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@Scrumdidlyumptious said:

Early adopters get fucked. Nothing new here. I'll probably get fucked over in some way a few months down the line when I buy a Vita day one, but I go in expecting that. I still doubt a future revision of the 3DS will include another circle pad, just because it seems like a pretty stupid idea and the lack of a second circle pad is the most inconsequential thing of the problems the 3DS has.

To be fair, revisions on Sony hardware don't happen so soon after the initial launch.  They're not keen on the Apple/Nintendo model, and rarely make huge material changes, other than the feature drop on the PS3 to try to shave the price in those chaotic years... But one could forgive them for that since Krazy Ken over-designed that beast at first.
#66 Posted by Summoboomo (142 posts) -

@buckybit said:

there are things ppl should care about:

  • education
  • unemployment
  • world economy
  • the state of democracy

... Nintendo (and Apple) fanboys need a break from Lala-land and care more about reality?

(I know, this is a video game website. I just don't feel your kinda pain, reading stories about nothing, like these, Nintendogs :P )

My god, you're right. People only have so much care, how dare they waste it on video games!

#67 Posted by Shaanyboi (1284 posts) -

As unappealing of a solution this kind of is, the benefit is kinda substantial. If it means we don't have to relive the PSP days of "Oh god, why does this game have no camera control?", then great. Frankly, since it IS Capcom, if this was incorporated into the new Resident Evil, I'd be VERY happy. People without this can play with their crappy single slide-pad, I'm playing with two.

#68 Posted by MisterSamMan (364 posts) -

Animal Crossing 3DS is the only game keeping me from selling my 3DS. I'm kinda glad I took the red pill and left the Nintendo dream.

#69 Posted by 71Ranchero (2738 posts) -

Holy shit, yet another bitch fest news article on this. You dont have to buy it, you dont even have to be happy about it but your wasting your breath complaining about it. Nobody is being screwed over, just dont buy the thing and if for some reason games come out that make you want a second analog stick then you buy it and feel like its a justified purchase.  
 
Gaming community, please grow up.  Also how does this get green lit as a news article? 

#70 Posted by csl316 (8437 posts) -

Ah well. I'll be happy with my Vita.

#71 Posted by MEATBALL (3194 posts) -

This was a great read.

Personally I can't really say I'm outraged by all of this, I'd rather have a second c-pad add-on than see Nintendo blindly stick to its guns on what was a really poor deign decision, if ultimately this means I wind up with a higher quality experience from the games I play on my 3DS that's at least something, even if it took a boneheaded route to get there.

Maybe that makes me some kind of apologist, but I'm not saying people aren't within their rights to be ticked off about all of this (and how goddamn ugly/unportable this add-on is), but I guess I'm in this for the long haul. There are games I will want to play on the 3DS so you won't see me hustling to sell my system (who would buy it at this point anyway, right?). This might be an issue if I felt like I could only own one handheld machine, but I'd always planned to own both the 3DS and PSV anyway.

#72 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@EgoCheck616 said:

Fuck everything about this. I hope GameStop enjoys their my used Nintendo 3DS.

Relly..your gonna throw a temper tantrum with little to no info? 
#73 Posted by Nomin (970 posts) -

3DS is Nintendo's handheld iteration of the GameCube.

#74 Posted by ghostofst4rm4n (34 posts) -

This would all be more relevant if the 3DS was not region locked. 
 
And Monster Hunter Tri G was headed to the other two territories. 

#75 Posted by Hailinel (24405 posts) -

I feel like I could respond to Patrick's article and half the reactions on the internet with the existential query, "U mad, bro?"

#76 Posted by themartyr (691 posts) -

Patrick, you seem awful fixated on Nintendo this past while.

#77 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@MisterSamMan said:

Animal Crossing 3DS is the only game keeping me from selling my 3DS. I'm kinda glad I took the red pill and left the Nintendo dream.

Damn, I haven't seen a Matrix ref in so long.  Also, it's perfectly appropriate.  I'm with you, it's a lot more awesome going down the rabbit hole. 
 
#78 Posted by NoelVeiga (1093 posts) -

The headline was regrettable, though.  
 
A big part of people being angry comes from them being told that they should be angry. That's going to happen regardless, but maybe it shouldn't come from a news item. Hey, I get that Giant Bomb is all about being spontaneous and opinionated, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too. If you're going to be the newsman and try to break news and get scoops, "I freaked out and wrote about it without first thinking things through" is not going to fly. If you're going to blog from your gut, then why report? This is the blog post that should have been published all along, probably. 
 
Aaand cue the cultist telling me to love it or leave it despite trying my best to be constructive and polite. 

#79 Posted by Alex_Carrillo (281 posts) -
If Iwata steps on stage next week and shows a tweaked handheld with a second circle pad, he should be prepared to deal with his hardcore base looking for blood. And no amount of free games may make up for the one-two punch of a surprising, drastic price cut and being told your hardware's outdated.

Isn't that what people are told every year when Apple announces a new iPhone or iPad, or when a new Android phone is released every half hour? That their $200 to $500 purchase just became outdated?

Why is this crazier? They're not selling faster hardware that is going to actually become obsolete in 2 years due to lack of support.

I'm not saying I like it, but for the people clamoring on about iPhone games being the future you'd think these people would be used to this crap.

Yearly hardware revisions? It seems like Nintendo is totally trying to follow that iPhone model. All they need are $.99 flash game clones that don't make a profit and they're set!

#80 Posted by Whizbang (105 posts) -

Nintendo is a dying company. Won't be surprised if Wii HD is their last console.

#81 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5228 posts) -

I don't understand.

#82 Posted by jasondesante (603 posts) -
@Origina1Penguin: I LOVED THAT FRIGGEN THING!! :D :D :D :D
#83 Posted by lizzard2 (53 posts) -
@Atramentous: cool ..hey you want to buy my dualshock 3 with no start button and in 6 months i'll sell you a sweet start button to you for a great price ok? im not ripping you off i promise. :P
#84 Posted by Warchief (657 posts) -

Nintendo fans will accept anything the company does because they have blinders on. We are talking about a fan base that is 100% cool with buying the same games with the same mechanics from the same franchises without missing a beat.

Nintendo fans are sheep, its just that simple.

#85 Posted by MideonNViscera (2257 posts) -

Hey Nintendo, any more ideas on how to make me regret buying this piece of shit?

#86 Posted by Enigma777 (6071 posts) -

I wonder if Nintendo will see this reaction and decide to scrap whatever plans I assume they had about a redesign with a second analog stick.

Either way I find this whole thing so deliciously idiotic.

#87 Posted by ThePickle (4168 posts) -

It's weird that the stick is smaller. Like the Gamecube or something. Nintendo be crazy, and the 3DS be not something I want to buy. This has nothing to do with it. It seems like yet another slight admission of failure on Nintendo's part.

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#88 Edited by lumberingjackal (227 posts) -

Well this thing certainly doesn't make me want to buy 3DS but it does make me feel good about having not bought one.

#89 Edited by RecSpec (3803 posts) -

It can't be said enough how much Monster Hunter means to Japan, but holy shit. Nintendo actually worked WITH Capcom on the CC Pro? Damn.

@Zaxex: Haha, beat me to it.

#90 Posted by Zaxex (583 posts) -

It's just peripheral isn't it? Like the Guitar Hero add-on for another DS?

Probably makes sense in Japan, where Monster hunter is Call of Duty levels of popular.

What has this got to do with the 3DS as a system? Are they basing a revision on this Monster Hunter thing? Seems pretty irrelevant otherwise.

#91 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@Alex_Carrillo said:
If Iwata steps on stage next week and shows a tweaked handheld with a second circle pad, he should be prepared to deal with his hardcore base looking for blood. And no amount of free games may make up for the one-two punch of a surprising, drastic price cut and being told your hardware's outdated.

Isn't that what people are told every year when Apple announces a new iPhone or iPad, or when a new Android phone is released every half hour? That their $200 to $500 purchase just became outdated?

Why is this crazier? They're not selling faster hardware that is going to actually become obsolete in 2 years due to lack of support.

I'm not saying I like it, but for the people clamoring on about iPhone games being the future you'd think these people would be used to this crap.

Yearly hardware revisions? It seems like Nintendo is totally trying to follow that iPhone model. All they need are $.99 flash game clones that don't make a profit and they're set!

Well, there are several things at work. 
 
First off, many Apple-heads are just as moronic as Nintendo fanboys, and like Nintendo fanboys, they're entrenched all over the media.  This leads to stupid people gurgling out nonsense like how the iPhone is going to replace dedicated gaming platforms of all sorts.  Lot of people with wide-ranging platforms sucking Steve Jobs' dick, kinda like a lot of gaming sites with Iwata.  Unfortunately, this has spread into the community as well, with people sucked into the yearly iPhone scam and the myriad Nintendo revision scam.
 
Honestly, this is the reason I never got into the smartphone thing.  I'm not gonna buy $200+ devices every couple years - it's not gonna happen. 
 
So now we have two opposing wills on one network (Whiskey Media).  One thinks that the whole gaming landscape as we know it will be replaced by smartphones that are constantly in flux and offer little in the way of actual game play, and another that sees a "competitor" taking a page out of the playbook.  It's delicious hypocrisy, as you've pointed out.
#92 Posted by Oginam (447 posts) -

I still don't care about the 3DS. Some of my favorite DS games weren't pushing the hardware, so upping the tech and having no games continues to be my biggest reasons for not giving a shit about the 3DS.

And Patrick, since when is Nintendo not known for pushing enormous amounts of peripherals for its consoles/handhelds? I get that Monster Hunter is a big deal, but Nintendo would do anything to keep Monster Hunter away from Sony - even piss off the non-Japan fan base. I'm surprised it doesn't come with a blurry magnifying glass and a huge 4 AA battery pack add on given how much Nintendo has been fucking up lately.

#93 Posted by Jeffsekai (7027 posts) -

I thought we all agreed that when you buy first gen Nintendo handheld stuff you get burned a year later? no? oh...

#94 Posted by Tesson (85 posts) -

Patrick, you are the man.

#95 Posted by geirr (2529 posts) -

Big deal.

#96 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@Warchief said:

Nintendo fans will accept anything the company does because they have blinders on. We are talking about a fan base that is 100% cool with buying the same games with the same mechanics from the same franchises without missing a beat.

Nintendo fans are sheep, its just that simple.

The irony of this is that those same blind sheep will bitch about Call of Duty or Halo players, knowing full well that these franchises won't last long when/if their quality falters.  Say what you will about Activision, they're cool with dropping shit when it gets stale, because they have other shit to keep the train moving.  Well, that and the fans will stop buying if there's nothing but the name, something Nintendo fans don't do.
#97 Posted by supermonkey122 (815 posts) -

Umm..not to sound like a fanboy but how do you know that the vita won't be like this. (just saying)

#98 Posted by Peanut (953 posts) -

@Warchief said:

Nintendo fans will accept anything the company does because they have blinders on. We are talking about a fan base that is 100% cool with buying the same games with the same mechanics from the same franchises without missing a beat.

Nintendo fans are sheep, its just that simple.

Don't be so ignorant. If you're going to throw out that blanket statement, you may as well lay it across most of the gaming community and fanboys in general, not just Nintendo fans. I'm a fan of Nintendo and I'm not out lapping up their re-re-re-releases.

#99 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@Oginam said:

I still don't care about the 3DS. Some of my favorite DS games weren't pushing the hardware, so upping the tech and having no games continues to be my biggest reasons for not giving a shit about the 3DS.

And Patrick, since when is Nintendo not known for pushing enormous amounts of peripherals for its consoles/handhelds? I get that Monster Hunter is a big deal, but Nintendo would do anything to keep Monster Hunter away from Sony - even piss off the non-Japan fan base. I'm surprised it doesn't come with a blurry magnifying glass and a huge 4 AA battery pack add on given how much Nintendo has been fucking up lately.

Sad part is that when the inevitable Monster Hunter game for Vita comes up, Nintendo will once more be a footnote in the Japanese handheld scene, simply because the Vita game will have smoother communication options in both ad-hoc and infrastructure modes.
#100 Posted by YukoAsho (2017 posts) -
@supermonkey122 said:
Umm..not to sound like a fanboy but how do you know that the vita won't be like this. (just saying)
Because the PSP wasn't?  Because this is what Nintendo has done since the Game Boy?

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