They don't need Pokemon, they have FUCKING PILOTWINGS. :P

They need some Picross up in that bitch.

" They don't need Pokemon, they have FUCKING PILOTWINGS. :P "

The 3DS is going to sell out either way, so why would they give Pokemon away for free and limit it to a smaller audience?

" The 3DS is going to sell out either way, so why would they give Pokemon away for free and limit it to a smaller audience? "

They should make a new Punch-Out game. They just revived the series a couple years ago and it would probably be pretty cool in 3d. But yeah, besides Mario and possibly Kid Icarus there is nothing in their current or future lineups that appeals to me at all.

If they made pokemon a 3Ds title they would have drastically cut Pokemon sales.  The reason pokemon sells so well is that there are millions of DSs out there, the 3Ds does not have anything remotely close to these numbers as it is a new system.  this is a bad time for the system to sell as well seeing as it is not being launched near Christmas time meaning the only people getting it now are people with their own disposable income, or spoiled kids.  They're better off selling Pokemon as a DS title and selling tons of copies.  The 3Ds launch was lackluster, but i believe Nintendo intended this.  The early adopters are now out of the way, meaning that they can now produce the system at a normal pace for te upcoming holiday season, preventing the shortages often experienced with a new console that releases in the fall.  Over the coming months warehouse of 3DS will be produced for the holiday season and the system's library will grow to include AAA titles people will buy when they do finally by the system.

" If they made pokemon a 3Ds title they would have drastically cut Pokemon sales.  The reason pokemon sells so well is that there are millions of DSs out there, the 3Ds does not have anything remotely close to these numbers as it is a new system.  . "

" @extremeradical said:

" The 3DS is going to sell out either way, so why would they give Pokemon away for free and limit it to a smaller audience? "

For free? It's a bundle, it'll take into account the cost of the game and 3ds. "

" @extremeradical: Because Nintendo would have sold way more 3DS's cause Pokemon is inasnly popular, and there is no limit to what Pokemon fans will do to get there Pokemon fix! "

" @Pinworm45 said:

" @extremeradical said:

" The 3DS is going to sell out either way, so why would they give Pokemon away for free and limit it to a smaller audience? "

For free? It's a bundle, it'll take into account the cost of the game and 3ds. "

Did I say free? I suppose I meant cheaper, as bundles usually are. 
 
What a silly thing for me to say. Worked too hard today, must have fried my brain. 
 
@Hizang said:

" @extremeradical: Because Nintendo would have sold way more 3DS's cause Pokemon is inasnly popular, and there is no limit to what Pokemon fans will do to get there Pokemon fix! "

Aren't most of them, excuse the expression, casual gamers? I think it would be better to launch with a more iconic franchise like Mario, Zelda, or possibly even Smash Bros. "

With games and fifty bucks cheaper is how it should have launched.
 
But Nintendo knows that there are enough people who will buy anything they put out day one to bother making it competitive right out of the gate.

" @extremeradical said:

" @Pinworm45 said:

" @extremeradical said:

" The 3DS is going to sell out either way, so why would they give Pokemon away for free and limit it to a smaller audience? "

For free? It's a bundle, it'll take into account the cost of the game and 3ds. "

Did I say free? I suppose I meant cheaper, as bundles usually are. 
 
What a silly thing for me to say. Worked too hard today, must have fried my brain. 
 
@Hizang said:

" @extremeradical: Because Nintendo would have sold way more 3DS's cause Pokemon is inasnly popular, and there is no limit to what Pokemon fans will do to get there Pokemon fix! "

Aren't most of them, excuse the expression, casual gamers? I think it would be better to launch with a more iconic franchise like Mario, Zelda, or possibly even Smash Bros. "

I think they have a new Mario game planned. And Isnt Legend of zelda coming out for it?  "

" They need some Picross up in that bitch. "

What was the launch games of Wii and the DS again?
I've forgotten, been too long.

" What was the launch games of Wii and the DS again? I've forgotten, been too long. "

" @rjayb89 said:

" They need some Picross up in that bitch. "

Picross 3d... in ACTUAL 3D "

" @Kjellm87 said:

" What was the launch games of Wii and the DS again? I've forgotten, been too long. "

Wii had Twilight Princess and... uh, Red Steel. "

" The 3DS has sold really well, apparently the best selling handheld everv according to IGN, although they have yet to release numbers. But the launch line up is not to good, here is what they should have done.  Made Pokemon Black and Pokemon White for the 3DS, and had a bundle where Pokemon White was with a White 3DS and Pokemon Black was with a Black 3DS, this would have sold alot more and pleased a ton more people. They would have shifted alot more units if they made Pokemon a 3DS game, why didn't they!? "

As someone who hasn't bought a Nintendo handheld since the GBA, when I was 10, or a Pokemon game since Ruby, I think it would have taken much more to get me interested. I'm obviously not the target audience so me and Nintendo just kind of co exist far away from each other.  
 
I'm much more interested in the NGP because that will prolly launch with games I want to play, like the PSP did.

" @Tally_Pants said:

" @rjayb89 said:

" They need some Picross up in that bitch. "

Picross 3d... in ACTUAL 3D "

This is the only thing that will convince me to buy a 3DS. I wonder if they'd do what they should and call it Picross 3D 3D or The Real Picross 3D. "

Pokemon released seven months ago in Japan and was likely in development for a couple of years..  I'm sure they knew about the 3DS but shifting development over would have meant making completely new assets.  I very much doubt the next Pokemon game on the 3DS will still be using 2D graphics and sprites..  and like others have said, one of the reasons Black & White has sold so well is because everyone already has a DS.  I'm sure releasing the big new Pokemon game for the 3DS at launch would have helped sell it to many people but there'd be just as many who can't afford one yet and will have to wait until the end of the year. 
 
I think it would have helped the 3DS sales but hurt Pokemon's.

Please name a handheld that had a better launch lineup than the 3DS?  It doesn't have some Super Mario port or crap like that.  It has a few good games.  Not must haves but you can't go wrong with them.  The best console launch I ever saw was the Dreamcast.  Amazing titles coming out with the system.  This just has good titles, better than what we saw with the GBA, DS and PSP.  Now the original GameBoy had Tetris, but back then, who could have thought that game would have been a must have?

Well they should have made Black and White forward compatible, but still for DS. And built-in pokewalker/pedometer support.

They would have shifted alot more units if they made Pokemon a 3DS game, why didn't they!? "

" Considering Nintendo supposedly gave The Pokemon Company the first 3DS devkits, I bet there's already a Pokemon game on the way for it. "

"  @HandsomeDead said: 

"  @Tally_Pants said: 

"  @rjayb89 said: 

" They need some Picross up in that bitch. "

Picross 3d... in ACTUAL 3D "

This is the only thing that will convince me to buy a 3DS. I wonder if they'd do what they should and call it Picross 3D 3D or The Real Picross 3D. "

I could get behind a game entitled Picross 3D 3D or even Picross 3D^2 (squared...i can't seem to find a way to raise the 2 as a proper exponent) "

If I remember correctly all Nintendo handhelds had a shitty line up of games.  The original Gameboy had Tetris and Super Mario Land as must own titles.  The GBA had Super Mario Advance and Castlevania: COTM as must own titles. The DS only had a port of Super Mario 64 as a must own title.  The 3DS has Super Street Righter 4, and maybe Pilot Wings or Nintendogs & Cats as must own titles.  So I say they are on par with the norm.    That said I won't get a 3DS until there are more games and a newer model that has a better battery life because I got fucked over by getting an original DS the day before they announced the Lite. 

What the 3DS needs is games that are worth playing. Just because previous consoles launched with crappy games doesn't mean it's alright. They don't even have anything interesting (to me) on the horizon. I don't care about an OoT remake, I've played that game before and I'm not particularly interested in paying to play it again. Rehashing old franchises isn't going to get me to buy this thing. I'm sure it will work for the Nintendo fans and Nintendo will sell a stupid number of games like they always do, but it's not going to work for me.

Nope. 
 
I got Pokemon White... But if it was on the 3DS I would have skipped it. 
 
And there's a lot of kids out there that probably can't get a 3DS. Pokemon being 3DS exclusive would kinda be bad.

Personally, I think that SSFIV is one of the best launch games I've ever played, I like it more then its console counterparts. 
 
However, there isn't a single Nintendo title that makes the system worth getting. And the fact that DS games look worse if you have recently stared at them for hours is really disheartening. 
 
But really the last must have launch game was Super Mario 64 on the Nintendo 64. It is just to hard to learn any new system and to risky to invest heavily in the rapid development of a game for that system to expect great launch games ever again.  Because when a system is new the number of units in consumers hands is far lower than any other system, so you have no guarantee of making back the investment of a large budget high quality game as the percentage of the market that would buy it is not large enough. Then there is the fact that in this market there is no room for selling games months after they're released, at least a retail. So the developers and publishers only have about a month to make their game sell and with a smaller market just stating to build that just wont happen. Thus they make tech demos and ports because they are quick, cheap and educational for the developers.

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@Tally_Pants said: 

" I could get behind a game entitled Picross 3D 3D or even Picross 3D^2 (squared...i can't seem to find a way to raise the 2 as a proper exponent) "

 You wanna go to insert, then HTML and use superscript tags which are, errrr... ^and.  However I just tested it and it won't work. Weird.    "

Launch games is why I didn't buy a 3DS, Street Fighter IV is Street Fighter IV which I already have and.... Do they have anything else?

as much as the 3DS launch sucks, Nintendo clearly tried backing off a bit so that third parties could have a bit more room to breathe.  Too bad aside from Ghost Recon and SSF4, it's almost all garbage.  
 
But even then, the real killer launch software is kinda what's already built into the system.  If you want stuff that demonstrates what crazy stuff makes this system unique, the AR games and Face Raiders are it.  Showing that off has gotten people I know way more excited and interested in the system than if I were to be like "Hey!  I got this year-old Street Fighter game!" or "Nintendo remade a Zelda game!"

You had me at Pokemon.