E3 2012 - Nintendo Press Conference Discussion

#251 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5008 posts) -

@LeYcH said:

@Harkat said:

@theoldhouse said:

Microsoft: D

EA: D

Ubisoft: C+

Sony: D+

Nintendo: D

Really?

In my opinion.

Nintendo = F-

Sony = C-

Ubisoft = C+

EA: D+

Microsoft D+

Really? I give all of you an 8.8

#252 Posted by Jackhole (376 posts) -

@Otzlowe: No way. Within the next 10 years there will be a Mario game for the Xbox and Playstation. Mark my words!

#253 Posted by Hailinel (24819 posts) -

A lot of people take the content of these conferences way too seriously. That's my takeaway from all of this.

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#254 Posted by aquamarin (555 posts) -

@Brodehouse: It's a new console, I think most people are gonna wanna be wowed.

#255 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -
@Brodehouse said:
You guys are so dramatic. No expectation management whatsoever.
Haha, I'm not crying in real life. Actually, I'm laughing right now.
#256 Posted by CrossTheAtlantic (1145 posts) -

The Pikmin intro definitely got my hopes up.

Man.

#257 Posted by Insectecutor (1186 posts) -

Seemed like everyone on that Nintendo stage was really uncomfortable, almost self conscious. The whole thing had a really disquieting vibe to it.

#258 Edited by WarlockEngineerMoreDakka (432 posts) -

@Bob_Loblaw said:

@TheKing said:

@Bob_Loblaw said:

No price, date or specs for a system realising later this year. Really? Think the boys may have to pack their bags for TGS this year.

Nintendo said weeks ago they weren't talking about pricing or release date.

Ok didn't realise that. I just remember when that was the norm for a console release.

I get the feeling after having to drop the 3DS price they just aren't confident about what they can charge especially that when they commisioned the WiiU tech they were probably riding the crest of the Wii's popularity.

I wasn't aware of this either^

And I bet a lot of people are completely unaware of Nintendo's statement regarding not talking about pricing and release date. :\

I personally thought the first 1/3 of the conference was OK... I wasn't surprised at all by all the old 3rd party games they were showing, and the Pikmin and Mario showings were good. But then there was the last 2/3s of the conference... Oh dears. :(

@Hailinel said:

A lot of people take the content of these conferences way too seriously. That's my takeaway from all of this.

Theoretically- the conferences are meant to be taken seriously and non-seriously at the same time. :P (Given all the memes they generate yearly)

#259 Posted by jmood88 (394 posts) -

@MooseyMcMan said:

On the bright side, as least the conference itself wasn't bad.

Huh? We clearly weren't watching the same thing.

#260 Posted by ashleychittock (136 posts) -

For me it went: Sony > Ubisoft >>>>>>> EA > Nintendo > Microsoft.

There were a couple of cool looking things in Ninty's conference but the amount of absolute shite completely made me forget about most of it. And I didn't even have any expectations of it being interesting to begin with so I'm not disappointed, just bored.

#261 Posted by Giantstalker (1652 posts) -

I think they're saving bigger, better announcements for next year in order to compete with Microsoft and Sony's next generation offerings. The Nintendo conference was a little flat though.

#262 Posted by Zor (656 posts) -

@braveortega said:

@Brodehouse: It's a new console, I think most people are gonna wanna be wowed.

And by wowed, do you mean cgi trailers like the last cycle? Shoot, what was that game, it was at the MS conf (i think), had a girl and a robot... gah... i can't seem to remember what it was called.... maybe 'raven' something.

#263 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

You guys are so dramatic. No expectation management whatsoever.

No you don't get it! Nintendo dissapointed me I was expecting the sky and they brought me nothing! I'm gonna change the color of my name! ...

In all honesty I didn't have high expectations for any of the conferences to deliver anything other than what they've been doing, showing a couple of games that we knew already because everything got leaked and show some dumb thing nobody likes , some of you guys never learn it's kinda sad.

#264 Posted by jmood88 (394 posts) -

@Giantstalker said:

I think they're saving bigger, better announcements for next year in order to compete with Microsoft and Sony's next generation offerings. The Nintendo conference was a little flat though.

Bigger announcements like yet another Mario game? Maybe even Zelda or Donkey Kong! All the same boring old franchises you've gotten to know and love over the past 2 decades!

#265 Posted by MikkaQ (10290 posts) -

@Claude said:

@TaliciaDragonsong said:
@AlexanderSheen said:

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

I just made a appointment to remove my Zelda tattoo. I'm done, going to fucking neutral.

But you like your red name.

But I dislike being fucked over by Nintendo, again.
Yep, I'm going neutral too. So disappointed.
Oh, SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII-
#266 Posted by Shaka999 (480 posts) -

It was bad, don't get me wrong, but come on... it wasn't like it's the end of Nintendo as we know it. Some of you guys are completely overreacting

#267 Posted by Jackhole (376 posts) -

@ashleychittock: I disagree. In my opinion Ubisoft>>>>>>>>Sony>Microsoft>EA>Nintendo

#268 Posted by aquamarin (555 posts) -

@Zor: I mean I wanted Nintendo to give me a reason to run out and buy the console and that didn't happen.

#269 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

I saw the PlatinumGames WiiU exclusive. It reminded me of Little King's Story style of play or Pikmin. It looked pretty cool.

#270 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11741 posts) -

Underwhelming to the Nth degree, but then again maybe I expected too much.

#271 Posted by Scarlet_Rogue (500 posts) -

does anyone know where I can watch the post conference Geoff-Reggie interview? I can't find it on GameTrailers.

#272 Posted by Ghostiet (5279 posts) -
@ashleychittock said:

For me it went: Sony > Ubisoft >>>>>>> EA > Nintendo > Microsoft.

Same. The worst part about Nintendo's conference that some of that stuff was interesting, but the presentation was so damn boring. There wasn't even anything to hate here.
#273 Posted by AndrewB (7617 posts) -

Yeah, I don't get why Nintendo doesn't give more of a focus to the really awesome third-party gems during their press conferences. Seems like talking about those, even if they aren't necessarily exclusives, would be more of a boost of faith. It's the Nintendo staples that need much less air time because they're pretty much already known quantities.

#274 Posted by BrockNRolla (1702 posts) -

The price has got to be terrible news. Why else would they have not announced it?

#275 Edited by vince_kupo (142 posts) -

I don't get you guys

Pikmin 3

Mario

Assasin Creed 3

Rayman Legend

Lego thing (forgot the name on that one)

Scribblenauts Unlimited

Darksiders 2

Marvel thing (not sure about this title, but why not)

Ninja Gaiden 3

And for those that missed them

Mass Effect 3

Batman Arkam city

I call that an ok lineup for a new console, there will probably be a couple of titles that won't be released on lauch day, but that's still impressive in my opinion. Keep complaining internet.

#276 Posted by Vexxan (4620 posts) -

Been waiting forever to see Pikmin 3, glad to finally see it actually exists. Hopefully there will be some cool stuff over at the 3DS event.

#277 Posted by Ronin147 (78 posts) -

ZombiU is going to be the Red Steel equivalent for WiiU. Looks promising but is going to be a gimicky let down.

#278 Posted by Abendlaender (2806 posts) -

I guess it's telling that the only interessting game on the WiiU so far is from a Third Party Developer. And I'm a huge Nintendo fan...

#279 Posted by Jimbo (9813 posts) -
@TaliciaDragonsong said:
I just made a appointment to remove my Zelda tattoo.  I'm done, going to fucking neutral.
lol
#280 Posted by Tennmuerti (8104 posts) -

Pretty much exactly what I was excpecting. Extremely boring, had to go play a game after a while, couldn't stand it anymore.

#281 Posted by theveej (831 posts) -

Nintendo was pretty meh, I think its just a big fail because THEY ARE LAUNCHING A CONSOLE THIS YEAR..... well they might not be they didnt say any release day/pricing -_-

They did nothing to sell me on Wii U which was probably the only thing they were suppose to do. Much more excited about 3DS than Wii U..........

I think sony's conference did its job well, hyping good first party game (the wonderbook stuff was worse than Usher which is saying a lot). MS also did what they had to do, showed Halo + bunch of third party game that people want to play + talk about media hub's future with smart glass which is really the business they wanted to be in from day 1. So even though Sony and MS were not great conferences (Sony better than MS game wise, but MS better with their tech I would say) I think they come out happy about what they presented and what people got out of their conferences.

Nintendo.... I don't even know man

I am excited about Halo 4, SouthPark, RE6, Tomb Raider, Last of US, AC III, Beyond and Watch Dogs. Plus pretty interested in Rising, Splinter Cell and FarCry 3. So overall It hasn't been a terrible E3, better than I expected with the end of the cycle coming up.

#282 Posted by BPRJCTX (704 posts) -

I'll take a Ubisoft Console.

Nintendo is dead to me.

#283 Posted by freewilly5 (64 posts) -

@vince_kupo: Every single one of those was already announced, or in Scribblenauts case had been leaked well beforehand. And yeah, I think the line up will be solid.

#284 Posted by masterpaperlink (1843 posts) -

@Shaka999 said:

It was bad, don't get me wrong, but come on... it wasn't like it's the end of Nintendo as we know it. Some of you guys are completely overreacting

"nintendo as we know it " has been dead since 2007, this was just conformation that they aren't coming back

#285 Posted by Gaff (1758 posts) -

@vince_kupo: I already played Arkham City, Mass Effect 3 and I already own a console that is going to play most of the titles.

#286 Posted by theoldhouse (439 posts) -

E3 just isn't for the hardcore anymore guys

Just look at the upcoming game for the rest of the year, there are a ton that look good and most of those were announced outside of E3.

#287 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

Nintendo had nothing to show, that could have genuinely wow'd me. They should have known better, and promised me the sky like Sony did when they announced PS3 back in the day - with a tonne of phony CG 'target' trailers for franchises I'd care about, if they were all shiney and new - like Zelda and Metroid.

Guess I won't be an early adopter, and by the time they'll have the goods, I and the world at large will likely already have moved on. Unless they repeat the Wii Motion Control phenomenon (I highly doubt it), they'll definitely lose a large portion of their current consumerbase.

It's still Nintendo, and they still got lots going for them, but raking in a million dollars per employee won't be happening anytime soon again.

#288 Posted by BPRJCTX (704 posts) -

@masterpaperlink said:

@Shaka999 said:

It was bad, don't get me wrong, but come on... it wasn't like it's the end of Nintendo as we know it. Some of you guys are completely overreacting

"nintendo as we know it " has been dead since 2007, this was just conformation that they aren't coming back

Yes, that's the main thing here, we were all expecting it to be like, ok, they milked that casual cow as much as they could, now they're coming back, but man...

I think this system will fail.

I don't think lightning will stryke twice with the casual crowd, and i think they just completely lost core gamers, even long time Nintendo fans are saying they're done with Nintendo.

#289 Posted by TheKing (835 posts) -

@Shaka999 said:

It was bad, don't get me wrong, but come on... it wasn't like it's the end of Nintendo as we know it. Some of you guys are completely overreacting

Agreed.

#290 Posted by vince_kupo (142 posts) -

@TheKing said:

@Shaka999 said:

It was bad, don't get me wrong, but come on... it wasn't like it's the end of Nintendo as we know it. Some of you guys are completely overreacting

Agreed.

Complaining is a way of life

#291 Posted by Apathylad (3066 posts) -

Nintendo and Microsoft's were both bad, but I'm not sure which one I didn't like more.

#292 Posted by tablefloor (28 posts) -

That was tragic. Nintendo didn't show anything worthwhile, other than Pikmin 3. Everything else was old, or unimpressive. Zombie U looked like CG, and probably isn't a game yet.

What the fuck has happened this year?

#293 Posted by niamahai (1405 posts) -

They..didn't announce a price and a date!!!?

#294 Posted by tablefloor (28 posts) -

@niamahai: A lot of the games are listed as Holiday, so it's going to be this year. The price is the problem, as if they try to sell it over $250/£200 they will struggle for sales.

The opportunity to use two of their stupid controller is kinda welcomed, I guess...

#295 Posted by AndrewB (7617 posts) -

@Apathylad said:

Nintendo and Microsoft's were both bad, but I'm not sure which one I didn't like more.

Unless you're that one crazy Halo fan who couldn't get enough out of 7 games, I don't see where the debate is coming from.

#296 Posted by Suicrat (3764 posts) -

Pikmin 3 looked awesome, and so did Paper Mario. So is it 2004 all over again? No, because there was no new Metroid game announced.

#297 Edited by EnduranceFun (1114 posts) -

Ubisoft had the best conference. That is amazing.

EA was offensive with the DLC focus and the new Dead Space looks misguided. Microsoft's was boring and full of casual stuff, but that's nothing compared to how terrible the majority of Nintendo's conference was. I'll take the first ten minutes with Miyamoto over the entire rest of the conference, thank you. So. Much. Crap. Nintendoland is Mario Party meets Playstation Home, and they close on that? Nothing new, except one DS Mario game, which is a sequel and both of those Mario games don't exactly inspire excitement. I guess I knew already that it was unlikely they'd show much, but something, anything would have been tolerable. Like at least throw some basic information about games being worked on, if you don't want to show CG. Plus the filler with Reggie talking bullshit about "we have so little time, but here's ten minutes of Just Dance 4"... eurgh. Very underwhelming, feel disappointed, but it's my fault for getting my hopes up.

Sony's conference was okay, I felt. They had some new games and the Sony Smash Bros. game looked better than I thought it'd look [i.e. shit] but they still didn't "wow" with anything. This is Nintendo's new hardware year, and they showed nothing besides Pikmin 3. I am in shock.

I think I need to stop watching E3. ._.

#298 Posted by tablefloor (28 posts) -

No Zelda, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, Mario Kart games announced. They also didn't announce the game I most want to play which would be a new F-Zero. Regardless, Pikmin will probably be good, and New Super Mario Bros is safe, and will definitely sell copies...

#299 Posted by Brodehouse (9950 posts) -

The thing you guys still don't get is that Nintendo didn't "start" with the casual crowd in 2007. They started in 1985 with the NES. They always marketed towards the wider market rather than 'the video game hardcore crowd'. The 'hardcore gaming crowd' was hanging around smoking in arcades, and Nintendo ignored them in favor of kids; You, in 1986. The hardcore gaming crowd in the 90s was not you playing Donkey Kong Country in your parents basement, it was dudes playing Syndicate on their PCs.

You got older and Nintendo stayed the same. They never betrayed you, you betrayed them.

#300 Posted by project343 (2827 posts) -
@theoldhouse

Microsoft: D

EA: D

Ubisoft: C+

Sony: D+

Nintendo: D

Really? I'd scale Ubisoft and Sony's conferences up to at least a C-C+. They aren't 'barely a grade higher than the rest of that filth.' They were pretty solid with a couple bumps along the way.

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