Is My Nintendo Hate Justified?

What did they do to you again?

Where did Nintendo touch you..

I love my goddamn Wii. Really, I do. As for Nintendo, just give me more of what I love.

Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!
 
Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit!

" Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!  Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit! "

" @Seppli said:

" Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!  Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit! "

Go play Darksiders. Apparently its "Zelda like" but easier and "grittier", great for manboys who lack the skill of their youth. Also, Microsoft and Playstation are following suit, so maybe you just hate all modern games or maybe you just had that something is now inclusive to the general public because it doesn't "belong" to social inepts anymore. Or maybe this is a mask for some other issue in your life you don't want to deal with. "

4 words, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories. xDDDDDDD

" Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!  Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit! "

I agree with you to a degree on the Zelda games, I feel like Twilight Princess took a step forward by having Link as an Adult and having a slightly darker tone to the game, but I don't see it progressing any further on the Wii.  I want a darker Zelda game on a console with actual next-gen graphics, but that possibility looks bleak even with the idea of a new Nintendo Console.  But I don't know about voice acting in Zelda games just because I have my own idea of what the characters sound like and it could just bug me to have some shitty english dubs.

All I want is a Pokemon MMO, that's it...

" Why did you write this when tomorrow you'll probably wake up thinking "Why did I bother writing this down?". No one needs to explain their opinions here, over your upsetting opinion. Just think about what you write next time. I hate when people do this sort of stuff no matter what it is. "

I enjoy playing my nostalgia-box. You just need to lighten up.

Nobody bitched when Sony did it...

When you buy a Nintendo system, you are saying "I like Mario and Zelda" 
 
If you fail to utter that phrase correctly, you're buying a paperweight. 
Although, then there are fantastically imaginative and unique Wii game like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, that really could only be done on the system.

" @Seppli said:

" Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!  Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit! "

How old are you, again?  The thing is, the Zelda franchise has grown up in a lot of ways.  No, the games aren't soaked in blood and have yet to feature voice acting, but the average Zelda game is still superior to most titles you'd find on any given platform for reasons other than the superficial.  And as basic as they can be on the surface, there have been Zelda games with some startlingly dark themes like Majora's Mask, Link's Awakening and Twilight Princess.  And even in the case where things weren't as good as they could have been, such as Twilight Princess, Nintendo has admitted their dissatisfaction and their intent to refresh the series in the next game, which unlike TP is being designed for the Wii from the ground up. "

Guess the topic at hand is...
 

LOST LOVE

" All I want is a Pokemon MMO, that's it... "

Quick someone set off the Wii Defense Force signal NOW!!!!!

I agree with this post. I was also duped into buying a Wii, and all I've done is play F-Zero GX with it. I gave it to my 4 year old nephew 2 years ago and no games have been released since then that made me think "Maybe I should get my wii back and play _____ that just came out." I already played Twighlight princess which was pretty great. But you don't need a Wii to play that. So really I've got to ask myself, why did I buy a Wii if it serves no purpose other than to amuse my 4 year old nephew who only uses it to play Wii bowling? Everything that they release for it is either a step backwards, or garbage. (You can't just give Mario a set of moves, regardless of how useless some of them may be, and then take them away.)

" They iterate on their franchises all the time!  I don't understand what people want.  If they don't put out core franchises, they say they're "Not catering to the core audience".  If they put out tons of games, people say they "Aren't changing enough" "

As mad fanboy-y as this thread is, I would agree that after porting everything to N64, nintendo got LAAAZY. They got away with it on the gamecube, but seeing the same game a 3rd time over with motion controls... not doing for me. 
 
The DS though... fuck I love me some DS. That's how I still love nintendo. The wii will pass. One day they'll get back on track. Maybe hire someone other than Mr. Martinet for ALL their VOs. Until then... the DS will live on in awesomeness.

" I agree with this post. I was also duped into buying a Wii, and all I've done is play F-Zero GX with it. I gave it to my 4 year old nephew 2 years ago and no games have been released since then that made me think "Maybe I should get my wii back and play _____ that just came out." I already played Twighlight princess which was pretty great. But you don't need a Wii to play that. So really I've got to ask myself, why did I buy a Wii if it serves no purpose other than to amuse my 4 year old nephew who only uses it to play Wii bowling? Everything that they release for it is either a step backwards, or garbage. (You can't just give Mario a set of moves, regardless of how useless some of them may be, and then take them away.) "

" @Hailinel said:

" @Seppli said:

" Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!  Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit! "

How old are you, again?  The thing is, the Zelda franchise has grown up in a lot of ways.  No, the games aren't soaked in blood and have yet to feature voice acting, but the average Zelda game is still superior to most titles you'd find on any given platform for reasons other than the superficial.  And as basic as they can be on the surface, there have been Zelda games with some startlingly dark themes like Majora's Mask, Link's Awakening and Twilight Princess.  And even in the case where things weren't as good as they could have been, such as Twilight Princess, Nintendo has admitted their dissatisfaction and their intent to refresh the series in the next game, which unlike TP is being designed for the Wii from the ground up. "

Seriously ? Mechanically everything is still rather unsophisticated and simple. Each and every gameplay mechanic. Simple, samey and tired. Look at Zelda's combat system. It doesn't live up to Ninja Gaiden, God of War or Devil May Cry - but it could, if Nintendo would dare to 'mature' the gameplay mechanics. To evolve them.  And how is storytelling superficial? Bioware games live from superb storytelling - for example. I don't see Zelda evolve it's storytelling. At most, a story is hinted at. With no real character progression or the telling of an intriguing plot whatsoever. Nintendo doesn't dare touching their formulas, because they fear they'll fail at transfering them into current times. They're sackless pansies!  Which brings me to another point. All of Nintendo's core franchise are extremely formulaic. They feel the same. They sound the same. They do same progression. They have the same flow. Iteration over iteration over iteration. All the same. How's that not a problem for so many of you? I myself grew increasingly tired of Nintendo formulas. Even worse than that, is that Nintendo doesn't try anything new. The last good and innovative core game coming from Nintendo was the Metroid Prime franchise. Ever since then - only casual gaming innovations and boring formualic Mario, Zelda and Mariocart games.  I can't understand Nintendo letting go of their former customers just like that. My tastes have changed. Nintendo hasn't. Doesn't even try. Why?  Because Nintendo are sleazy kiddy lovers, unable to cater to anything else but fresh unspoiled innocent minds. Nintendo got no love to share with those gamers who grew up to want more of their game, than just pure uncut gameplay. I want story. I want style. I want deep mechanics. I want physics simulation. I want blood and gore. I want explosions. I want beans, bullets and bandages. I want more spice on my gameplay. Nintendo only got fluff. Nintendo couldn't do spicey and stylish games if they tried. "

I couldn't agree more and i'm astonished at what their 'fans' let them get away with.

" I couldn't agree more and i'm astonished at what their 'fans' let them get away with. "

personally, i like that nintendo isn't following in line with what everyone else is doing

I wish I used the money that I spent on my Wii towards a PS3. Even though I already have a 360, the PS3 exclusives alone would give me more gameplay than my Wii has. I'm not hating on it, I'm simply bored of it. Like the OP says, I get tired of playing the same series' all the time that have little to no improvements.

" @Gruff182 said:

" I couldn't agree more and i'm astonished at what their 'fans' let them get away with. "

So, you're not a fan of video games. That's so sad. "

I THINK I found the missing link. 
 
They haven't made an F-Zero game yet for the wii. 
 
They still have a chance at being awesome. Just... do it well.

While extremely exaggerated and even slightly butthurt, OP is right. Nintendo havent evolved at all over the past decade. 

" While extremely exaggerated and even slightly butthurt, OP is right. Nintendo havent evolved at all over the past decade.  "

" @Seppli said:

" @ryanwho said:

" @sidescroller said:

" They iterate on their franchises all the time!  I don't understand what people want.  If they don't put out core franchises, they say they're "Not catering to the core audience".  If they put out tons of games, people say they "Aren't changing enough" "

You can't win with perpetual pubescents once you're popular. "The man" can't do good no matter what, and the man manifests itself in whatever happens to be popular. Its just a phase teens go through. Most of the time. "

 

And slaves tend to be proud of having built strange men's pyramids. What's your point?

What the hell does that even mean in context?!  Also, Aliens built the pyramids, so of course the slaves wanted to act all proud about it and take the credit. "

" I agree 1000% with the OP.   I sold my Wii and I am never buying a Nintendo product again. "

@Seppli: Its true Nintendo's game design is more for kids. Even with that said I can play games like Ninja Gaiden, Call of Duty, Street Fighter 4, Forza, Halo, Gears of War, and all the other fun grown up games and still find a way to enjoy Nintendo's Kiddish game design. Your going to tell me you did not enjoy Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart (with the Wii Wheel), or the New Super Mario Bros? Maybe Nintendo doesn't need to grow with us, but maybe we have to keep some of Nintendo with us as we grow. It can't all be Guns, Blood and Sex.

" @Claude said:

" @Tarsier said:

" I agree 1000% with the OP.   I sold my Wii and I am never buying a Nintendo product again. "

That's just stupid. Pretty much dumb too. Sorry for your loss, in brain cells. "

And you have just been having a great old time with your Wii haven't you? you clever man. "

" @DuhQbnSiLo said:

" All I want is a Pokemon MMO, that's it... "

i want to see a 3D pokemon game that is just like the gameboy games just in 3D. i've been wanting this for years now.   nintendo failed me when i bought a gamecube. i bought a gamecube expecting the same excitement from the n64. i ended up spending more on my ps2 then gamecube. it just lays there back a couple of years ago. "

" I'm certainly with you.  Nintendo is built on greed and laziness.  What is worse is that their fans are complete whores.  They demand nothing from the company they adore.  Both Microsoft and Sony fans seem to take a far more realistic approach and will call the companies on their shit once in a while.  Nintendo fans just bend over and take whatever the Mario maker wants to cram up their asses.  They will praise it to no end, and they will pretend that anyone who doesn't like it only enjoys bloody, mindless first-person shooters.  As several twats above have demonstrated with an inability to differentiate between "mature" and gore. Though the business success kills any hope of it, I would like to see Nintendo pull out of the console market and just develop software.  If they tried putting genuine effort into their flagship games, perhaps they'd be a respectable company again.  And I cannot see how their games would be diminished by better hardware and a real controller. "

I agree with OP over 9000%! 
Nintendo suck, and the only game they ever make is Mario LOL 
After third parties releasing game after game after game for core audiences, I decided that there just wasn't enough epic legendary games like Halo 3 and Gears 2 on the Wii, so I sold it to my 2 year old nephew for 200 dollars! He's a sucker for paying that much! AHahhahahaahahha
Nintendo needs to learn to cater to my tastes, and that they need to go HD so I can play Mario on my 1080p 67" Plasma TV at my mom's house. 
 
In conclusion, Nintendo sucks cuz all they have is stupid Mario ( LAME KIDDY SHIT ) and Zelda ( For lesbians!! AHHAHAHA )

" I agree with OP over 9000%! Nintendo suck, and the only game they ever make is Mario LOL After third parties releasing game after game after game for core audiences, I decided that there just wasn't enough epic legendary games like Halo 3 and Gears 2 on the Wii, so I sold it to my 2 year old nephew for 200 dollars! He's a sucker for paying that much! AHahhahahaahahhaNintendo needs to learn to cater to my tastes, and that they need to go HD so I can play Mario on my 1080p 67" Plasma TV at my mom's house.  In conclusion, Nintendo sucks cuz all they have is stupid Mario ( LAME KIDDY SHIT ) and Zelda ( For lesbians!! AHHAHAHA ) "

Remember Nintendo has been in the gaming business before , and I'm pretty sure its half the posters here, you guys were a speck in your parents eyes. They have been on top and will continue to be on top because yeah, they make games they want to make and not follow trends. XBOX and PS systems are still fairly new and lets see how long they last. I love my XBOX and PS but they are doing what OP was complaining about, nothing but rehashed shit. Better graphics don't mean shit.There are still games that I played in the 80's that are more fun than some of the shit games PS and XBOX are putting out.  I can name so many great games Nintendo has put out. All XBOX and Ps fanboys can say is "OH MAI GOSH GUYZ THE HALOS AND KILL ZONE ARE AWESOME!!11111" Ok cool, what else have they got? Yeah, thought so. 

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Remember Nintendo has been in the gaming business before , and I'm pretty sure its half the posters here, you guys were a speck in your parents eyes. They have been on top and will continue to be on top because yeah, they make games they want to make and not follow trends. XBOX and PS systems are still fairly new and lets see how long they last. I love my XBOX and PS but they are doing what OP was complaining about, nothing but rehashed shit. Better graphics don't mean shit.There are still games that I played in the 80's that are more fun than some of the shit games PS and XBOX are putting out.  I can name so many great games Nintendo has put out. All XBOX and Ps fanboys can say is "OH MAI GOSH GUYZ THE HALOS AND KILL ZONE ARE AWESOME!!11111" Ok cool, what else have they got? Yeah, thought so. 

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Shocker, yet another person presents their opinion on the wii as if it is something novel. We get it already. We've heard it a hundred thousand million times before. You think the Wii is a kids system that has nothing but Mario and shovelware. Did this really need yet another thread? The topic has been driven through the core of the earth and back already. Side A presents their reasons for why the Wii is awful, side B refutes their arguements, mudslinging ensues. It's a waste of time and in the end, why does anyone really care? You've made your choice, so what reason is there for picking a fight with everyone that disagrees with you?I think we all know that there is no reason. So what if some people actually appreciate what the Wii has to offer? Are they making you feel uncomforterable with all the fun they may or may not be having?

" Nintendo has failed my generation and moved on to betray the next! Nintendo preys on innocence and drops you as soon as you grow your own facial hair, boobs or both. Sleazy band of kiddy lovers!  Why can't the Zelda franchise grow up with me!?! Why? God dammit! "

What do you want? Zelda Theft Horse?

" What do you want? Zelda Theft Horse? "

i love their franchises because of the sentimental value of these games that I grew up with. Kind of like re-living my early childhood