@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what I want.

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what I want.

I feel like you're stating the obvious, but I suppose I am not exactly a part of the group of people you're aim is set on ranting to. Also pretty sure the 3DS is going to sell more than the DS in the long run to make my own bold prediction.

@Claude said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what I want.

Well, get over yourself. Throw some moon dust on Nintendo headquarters and see what happens. While you're at it, throw some on Valve so we can play Episode 3.

Fuck your Portal 2 references.

I want a Cart Racer with Nintendo X Playstation + Microsoft.

Although I only want it to race as Keven Butler.

@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what I want.

Well, get over yourself. Throw some moon dust on Nintendo headquarters and see what happens. While you're at it, throw some on Valve so we can play Episode 3.

Fuck your Portal 2 references.

If Nintendo and Valve are both covered in moon dust, then you could create a portal on each building, and then their employees can freely walk between both headquarters, leading to the greatest convergence of game design ideas of all time.

I think Nintendo really has the opportunity to improve on their online gaming services like the EShop, WiiWare, and Virtual Console... though lately the WiiWare and Virtual Console aren't any count at all anymore. Because of the appeal of their major franchises, I don't think Nintendo is really going to go anywhere for a long time. If they follow the way Sega does, so be it. It probably won't happen, but you don't know what the future brings. I'll be rooting for Nintendo to try and strive for success by them bringing their version of entertainment to the public.

@BisonHero:

Fire Emblem does not need a gravity gun.

If any company stands a chance of ending up like Sega, it's Sony. Nintendo's fine, for better or for worse.

@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what I want.

ditto. I don't care enough to buy the console to play like 5 games, but I would buy the hell out of them if they appeared on other consoles. Until then, Nintendo gets nothing from me.

Not saying it will happen, but I would like it if it somehow did.

@Video_Game_King said:

@BisonHero:

Fire Emblem does not need a gravity gun.

what about a crowbar?

@Video_Game_King said:

@BisonHero:

Fire Emblem does not need a gravity gun.

metroid would be awesome with a gravity gun

@NakAttack:

Swords and axes are close enough.

@Video_Game_King said:

@BisonHero:

Fire Emblem does not need a gravity gun.

DOESN'T IT? Also, Mario Kart would have a bunch of see-saws and assorted physics puzzles. And Portal 3 would no longer have voice acting, and would instead have on-screen text where all of the really good jokes are in bold and in a different colour.

@BisonHero:

And GLaDOS would sound like a garbled up Hatsune Miku?

I like to think of Nintendo as the anti-Apple, where Apple is the slick jock that is always screwing people over, but every one loves. Nintendo is the geek who always trys to do the right thing and yet every one hates him.

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice. I guess they think the hardware is too underpowered or the control methods too gimmicky for their liking. If you want to play Nintendo franchises, buy Nintendo hardware. If you think it's gimmicky, don't buy.

Yes!! This is exactly how I feel and it's exactly what I do. I don't buy any of their hardware anymore but I'd love to try some of the games.

I don't know man playing a Mario game on my Xbox sounds pretty cool.

I don't know man playing a Mario game on my Xbox sounds pretty cool.

@Claude said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what I want.

Well, get over yourself. Throw some moon dust on Nintendo headquarters and see what happens. While you're at it, throw some on Valve so we can play Episode 3.

Episode 3 :(. That's all I can say.

@Dagbiker said:

Nintendo is the geek who always trys to do the right thing and yet every one hates him.

Unfortunately, that's true. Nintendo has the potential for really great games, and have had them in the past. On their own systems. That's just the way it is. Sure, who wouldn't like to play Zelda or something like that on a console they play more of. Not gonna happen.

The situation is really simple: Nintendo needs to sell consoles to make money, so it makes its exclusive titles really, really good in order to draw in people who already have other consoles. If Nintendo switched to only selling software, they wouldn't invest nearly as much into each title because there's no bonus revenue from hardware sales, so the games wouldn't be as good.

I agree, well said. 
 
Nintendo ain't going nowhere fast.

@Claude said:

Sometimes I think people want Nintendo to get out of the hardware business just because they want to play Nintendo games on their hardware of choice. I guess they think the hardware is too underpowered or the control methods too gimmicky for their liking. If you want to play Nintendo franchises, buy Nintendo hardware. If you think it's gimmicky, don't buy. Simple really, when you think about it.

That's exactly what I want

No, I do not want Nintendo to make another gimmick. I like their games. As much as I bash them for never really doing anything different with Mario or Zelda, I still like their games. There are two reasons that I don't stick with Nintendo often.

The first is that they feel that a gimmick - yes, a fucking gimmick, that's what it is - automatically makes something really interesting. It does not. I'm especially against motion controls in general, and the Wii more so. Apart from shooters, you can't really make something traditional on it that uses the Wii-mote extensively. I have less of a problem with the Wii U's controller because a game can be released that doesn't use any crazy gimmick, but the Wii's controller is intent on forcing developers to make something equally as gimmicky just so that it will work right. And, to be honest with you, I never played anything on the Wii that sold me on motion controls. There was always something strange or iffy with it, it never really worked right.

I'll have no problem with this if there is a way to make a more traditional game with traditional controls on it. What I mean by "traditional" is "something that can be played with no motion controls, waggle, touch screen, motion sensing (Kinect), or anything else". Just plain buttons and sticks, thank you very much, or WASD and a mouse.

The second reason is a lack of games that I want outside of their first party offerings. As mentioned before, I like Mario games. I like Metroid games. Can't say that Zelda has ever struck my fancy but they seem like well made, if never changing, games. Some third party games do exist that I would like to buy - Resident Evil Revelations on the 3DS, for instance - but there still isn't much. I'd especially like to see more games meant for older people.

I don't dislike Nintendo - the 3DS is on my mind right now, I want one - but they just seem way too focused on making something gimmicky that loses novelty quick.

Speaking of the 3DS, why don't they just make their handhelds right the first time instead of releasing a new version every year? Oh, don't walk away, Sony, my eye is on you as well...

I saw this thread and thought I'd wandered into GameFAQs circa 2002. Man, talk about a mindfuck.

I really like this rant.  You made really good points in your state of frustration

@believer258 said:

And, to be honest with you, I never played anything on the Wii that sold me on motion controls. There was always something strange or iffy with it, it never really worked right.

I feel ridiculous most of the time half-heartedly swinging the remote in Twilight Princess, which is why I prefer the Gamecube version. Haven't tried Skyward Sword yet so I'm not sure if it's improved. Regardless, I hate the little speaker in the remote and the awful midi-noises that come out. Ugh.

@Claude said:

Another thing is that my launch day Wii hasn't broken. My Xbox 360 broke twice on me after I bought it in 2008.

I know the pain of that. The Wii is pretty solid.

Can't help but agree with all of this. But I really hope Nintendo steps it up for this next generation. The whole opertation rainfall fiasco left a bad taste in my mouth...

I agree. There are few things in life that cannot be stopped. Mr. Domino, The Endurance Run, Game Room, NintenDownload X-Press, and Nintendo. And of those, Nintendo is the oldest, and the strongest.

@bvilleneuve said:

I saw this thread and thought I'd wandered into GameFAQs circa 2002. Man, talk about a mindfuck.

I wouldn't call the first financial loss in a long time the sign of an inevitable decline.

@Claude: Haven't gotten a chance to play but about 15 minutes of that game, tbh. I keep thinking back to an old Ju-on review and how terrible the noises apparently were.

"...So get over yourselves." Ah, the words that precede every productive discussion.

"...So get over yourselves." Ah, the words that precede every productive discussion.

Nintendo sux, deal with it

the end

Nintendo sux, deal with it

the end

I don't like any nintendo franchises BOOM
I also hate valve too

@Animasta: I finished Catherine earlier this week... I got the true ending for Katherine... Your avatar provokes a totally different response when I look at it now.

I agree. There are few things in life that cannot be stopped. Mr. Domino, The Endurance Run, Game Room, NintenDownload X-Press, and Nintendo. And of those, Nintendo is the oldest, and the strongest.

@kingzetta said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

I agree. There are few things in life that cannot be stopped. Mr. Domino, The Endurance Run, Game Room, NintenDownload X-Press, and Nintendo. And of those, Nintendo is the oldest, and the strongest.

but Game Room and The NintenDownload X-Press were stopped

LIES! The NDX will fly again, and one day, Sunset Riders will be released, and then there will be a special Game Room Quick Look just for it! YOU WILL ALL SEE!

I don't like any nintendo franchises BOOM I also hate valve too

@kingzetta said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

I agree. There are few things in life that cannot be stopped. Mr. Domino, The Endurance Run, Game Room, NintenDownload X-Press, and Nintendo. And of those, Nintendo is the oldest, and the strongest.

but Game Room and The NintenDownload X-Press were stopped

LIES! The NDX will fly again, and one day, Sunset Riders will be released, and then there will be a special Game Room Quick Look just for it! YOU WILL ALL SEE!

@kingzetta said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

@kingzetta said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

I agree. There are few things in life that cannot be stopped. Mr. Domino, The Endurance Run, Game Room, NintenDownload X-Press, and Nintendo. And of those, Nintendo is the oldest, and the strongest.

but Game Room and The NintenDownload X-Press were stopped

LIES! The NDX will fly again, and one day, Sunset Riders will be released, and then there will be a special Game Room Quick Look just for it! YOU WILL ALL SEE!

just believe in Mr. Domino

Technically, Mr. Domino is the most stoppable of all those things, because it's "No One Stops Mr. Domino," not "Nothing Stops Mr. Domino." Meaning that people cannot stop him, but things that aren't people can. So, if The Endurance Run and Mr. Domino were on a collision course, the ER would keep on truckin'.

@TooWalrus: lol! Completely off topic but absolutely hilarious. Yeah, I didn't see that coming. Every single time I see that icon I ,too, think of that ending.

@Claude said:

@kingzetta said:

I don't like any nintendo franchises BOOM I also hate valve too

Damn, do you even play video games.

Maybe not good ones? :3

@kingzetta said:

I don't like any nintendo franchises BOOM I also hate valve too

Damn, do you even play video games.

Bold claims six months after they announced new hardware. Of course they're not going to go software only right now. I wouldn't be shocked if they sort of focus on the handheld market now though. I don't foresee the WiiU selling gangbusters like the Wii did.

Sounds like your in denial, old man.

@kingzetta said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

@kingzetta said:

@MooseyMcMan said:

I agree. There are few things in life that cannot be stopped. Mr. Domino, The Endurance Run, Game Room, NintenDownload X-Press, and Nintendo. And of those, Nintendo is the oldest, and the strongest.

but Game Room and The NintenDownload X-Press were stopped

LIES! The NDX will fly again, and one day, Sunset Riders will be released, and then there will be a special Game Room Quick Look just for it! YOU WILL ALL SEE!

just believe in Mr. Domino

Technically, Mr. Domino is the most stoppable of all those things, because it's "No One Stops Mr. Domino," not "Nothing Stops Mr. Domino." Meaning that people cannot stop him, but things that aren't people can. So, if The Endurance Run and Mr. Domino were on a collision course, the ER would keep on truckin'.