No, I like competition and think it would hurt the video game market more than help. I also believe in the quality of Nintendo's consoles and their software on those consoles.

While I would LOVE some Nintendo games on other platforms, I don't want the Wii U to fail at all.

I don't know if I want it to fail, but I would love it if Nintendo just became a 3rd party developer/hand-held company.

I honestly despise what Nintendo has become, but this industry just wouldn't be the same without them as a platform holder.

I don't want to see the WiiU fail but I do want to see some of the stock, go to first party games fail, maybe give Nintendo some incentive to freshen up some of that shit. Just my opinion.

No. Sega and Atari went down that route. We all have seen how bad that turned out.

COmpetition forces the other console makers to make the best fucking console they can at the time.  I think three consoles work.

@xobballox said:

I don't know if I want it to fail, but I would love it if Nintendo just became a 3rd party developer/hand-held company.

If the Wii U is half as successful as the Wii, you will not get your wish.

That is a really poorly written sentence =(
 
Also, don't forget the (3)DS.

The more Nintendo succeeds, the better the video game industry gets. The same holds true with Microsoft, Sony, and I guess Apple at this point.

While I might not personally like the direction Nintendo has taken in recent years, I admire them for being willing to take chances with hardware. For better or worse, they're innovators and will continue to influence the market for many years to come regardless of who is on board with them.

@BeachThunder said:

That is a really poorly written sentence =( Also, don't forget the (3)DS.

Crap, I was wondering if it was worded correctly. I was also wanting to focus on the home console market not handhelds. Oh well, cat's out the bag as they say.

I would like it to fail and have the N64/Gamecube Nintendo back.
 
Nintendo is still deserting the gamers that made them the company they are today, but hey, I'm just as happy with my Xbox if Nintendo keeps making waggling shit and 1-3 games per year that are worth full price.

I don't really want them to fail. I would like a reason to be excited about Nintendo's products again though. Personally I think Nintendo needs some new exclusive IP's they've been making Mario and Zelda games for over 20 years. I can't remember the last time they had something fresh and new. Maybe Epic Mickey, but I don't think that was first party.

@xobballox said:

I don't know if I want it to fail, but I would love it if Nintendo just became a 3rd party developer/hand-held company.

If the Wii U is half as successful as the Wii, you will not get your wish.

I love Nintendo's innovation so NO

  Maybe Epic Mickey, but I don't think that was first party.

I'd hate to see what Xbox and Sony would do with LESS competition.

That sounds kinda mean spirited.

@Video_Game_King said:

That sounds kinda mean spirited.

Have you ever read the comments on these boards about the Wii and the Wii U?

I would love me some PC Nintendo games, but they won't fail, people will buy that thing like crazy.

No, because I'm not a cock.

@Video_Game_King said:

That sounds kinda mean spirited.

Have you ever read the comments on these boards about the Wii and the Wii U?

I don't want anyone to fail. People who want a company to fail are just petty and they need another hobby cus wishing a bunch of people lose their jobs over a fucking hobby is sociopathic.

@Video_Game_King said:

@Claude said:

@Video_Game_King said:

That sounds kinda mean spirited.

Have you ever read the comments on these boards about the Wii and the Wii U?

I can't remember anything specifically, but the general message I'm getting is that people hate them, right?

So far 21% wish to see it fail. So sad. But I'm reminded that I'm in the majority who wish to see Nintendo carry on.

Edit: 31% wish to see it fail. Bastards.

I don't care for their first part games so blah blah.

Honestly, I think they might fail to garner the 3rd party devs to the Wii U like they did with the Wii. I dunno if Nintendo cares for third parties anymore but they should and a failure because of lack of support might change Nintendo mentality of making a console.

Everything I have seen and heard about the new Wii U just leaves me with my hands in the air yelling "WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS BOX TO BE?!?!"

Why does this poll exist, other than to stir the fanboy pot?

Naw.

Why does this poll exist, other than to stir the fanboy pot?

@Hailinel said:

Why does this poll exist, other than to stir the fanboy pot?

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel said:

Why does this poll exist, other than to stir the fanboy pot?

Because Claude loves polls, yet is in a confusing love/hate relationship with his goddamn Wii? Personally, I'm in a "very good friends" relationship.

@Ragdrazi said:

@Hailinel: It's a valid question. Nintendo has made a major misstep here at a critical moment.

I was just curious to see where Giant Bomb stands when it comes to the Wii U and Nintendo in general. If fanboys wish to defend or destroy, that's beyond my control. This is just a poll.

In my eyes, Nintendo is nothing but a handheld company at this point.
 
@xobballox said:

I don't know if I want it to fail, but I would love it if Nintendo just became a 3rd party developer/hand-held company.

@Ragdrazi said:

@Hailinel: It's a valid question. Nintendo has made a major misstep here at a critical moment.

What misstep is that?

I think the real question is would a third party Nintendo future be good for the industry. Wii aside, I think Nintendo has been operating like a third party developer for decades now, so on that end having a broader market for the latest Zelda game would probably be good for everyone. I personally do not like the Wii. I think it's forced "innovation" that has taken the industry to a real bad place. Now that the trendiness of the Wii has dried up, I think they either need to push real innovation with their new box, or make room for a fresh company.

@Ragdrazi said:

@Hailinel: It's a valid question. Nintendo has made a major misstep here at a critical moment.

What misstep is that?

For some reason when I first read the topic title I thought you meant that the Wii U should fail in order for them to get more third party support. But to answer the actual question. I wouldn't want to see them fail but I would like them to just be a 3rd party studio and make Mario and Starfox games for the other consoles. Reason being is I have no reason to buy a Wii due to the real lack in any games that interest me. The Wii has SMG and SMG2 at the moment but that's not enough for me to actually buy a $150 system for. But I don't really think that my general disinterest in Nintendo products should make it impossible for other people to get Nintendo products.

Nah whenever something succeeds in the video game world it's a good thing imo.

@Ragdrazi said:

I think the real question is would a third party Nintendo future be good for the industry. Wii aside, I think Nintendo has been operating like a third party developer for decades now, so on that end having a broader market for the latest Zelda game would probably be good for everyone. I personally do not like the Wii. I think it's forced "innovation" that has taken the industry to a real bad place. Now that the trendiness of the Wii has dried up, I think they either need to push real innovation with their new box, or make room for a fresh company.

How has the trendiness dried up when Microsoft and Sony just released their motion devises last year?

No cause they do cool shit with their consoles. I don't use my wii but I have to admit that some of the things Nintendo's done with it is great; the problem is getting third parties to give enough shits to actually make software that does more than waggle or TAP FASTER. It's more a PR/intercompany problem they have, not a hardware one.

@Hailinel said:

@Ragdrazi said:

@Hailinel: It's a valid question. Nintendo has made a major misstep here at a critical moment.

What misstep is that?

Not sure, but as of late, I'd say it's "starting off consoles with absolutely zero games that interest me." That's as close as I can get.

@Video_Game_King said:

@SethPhotopoulos: They do? While I obviously can't comment on that (there aren't a lot of consoles launching right now, and using any historical examples would be a bit biased), I'm just not seeing a lot of interesting games on either system. While the WiiU (do I put a space between Wii and U?) is just launch titles now, the 3DS has been out a while, and I haven't exactly seen the "I MUST FUCKING HAVE THIS" game yet. Then again, there may be some bias there, too, since I tried out the 3DS a few times and didn't really like the 3D (it's exactly the opposite of how it's advertised (that in itself isn't entirely bad)).

When was the last time a console launched with games of that nature? It's a rare day that the vast majority of a launch line-up isn't mediocre.

@Ragdrazi said:

I think the real question is would a third party Nintendo future be good for the industry. Wii aside, I think Nintendo has been operating like a third party developer for decades now, so on that end having a broader market for the latest Zelda game would probably be good for everyone. I personally do not like the Wii. I think it's forced "innovation" that has taken the industry to a real bad place. Now that the trendiness of the Wii has dried up, I think they either need to push real innovation with their new box, or make room for a fresh company.

How has the trendiness dried up when Microsoft and Sony just released their motion devises last year?

@Ragdrazi said:

@Claude said:

@Ragdrazi said:

I think the real question is would a third party Nintendo future be good for the industry. Wii aside, I think Nintendo has been operating like a third party developer for decades now, so on that end having a broader market for the latest Zelda game would probably be good for everyone. I personally do not like the Wii. I think it's forced "innovation" that has taken the industry to a real bad place. Now that the trendiness of the Wii has dried up, I think they either need to push real innovation with their new box, or make room for a fresh company.

How has the trendiness dried up when Microsoft and Sony just released their motion devises last year?

The Wii is done. The market has moved to a bad place of gimmicky motion devices for casual gamers. They wanted the next big thing. Nintendo could have given it to them. Microsoft and Sony's market is going to dry up just like the Wii's did. Nintendo could have kept riding the cash train, but instead they're making just a console. Now, if they can push innovation on that console then more power to them. But given the recent history of the industry and of Nintendo themselves that doesn't seem like it's going to be very easy for them.

Did you not pay attention to their E3 presentation? It was focused more on the new controller concept than on the console itself, and the controller ain't exactly a slouch in the potential innovation department.

You can claim that it was gimmicky all you want, but the Wii proved to be a major boon for Nintendo this generation, which is something that they needed after the GameCube was left in the dust. Sure, it may have petered out, but its performance utterly embarrassed Microsoft and Sony, who started off the generation completely dismissive of the Wii only to be inclined to find their own motion control solutions.

@Ragdrazi said:

@Claude said:

@Ragdrazi said:

I think the real question is would a third party Nintendo future be good for the industry. Wii aside, I think Nintendo has been operating like a third party developer for decades now, so on that end having a broader market for the latest Zelda game would probably be good for everyone. I personally do not like the Wii. I think it's forced "innovation" that has taken the industry to a real bad place. Now that the trendiness of the Wii has dried up, I think they either need to push real innovation with their new box, or make room for a fresh company.

How has the trendiness dried up when Microsoft and Sony just released their motion devises last year?

The Wii is done. The market has moved to a bad place of gimmicky motion devices for casual gamers. They wanted the next big thing. Nintendo could have given it to them. Microsoft and Sony's market is going to dry up just like the Wii's did. Nintendo could have kept riding the cash train, but instead they're making just a console. Now, if they can push innovation on that console then more power to them. But given the recent history of the industry and of Nintendo themselves that doesn't seem like it's going to be very easy for them.

Did you not pay attention to their E3 presentation? It was focused more on the new controller concept than on the console itself, and the controller ain't exactly a slouch in the potential innovation department.

You can claim that it was gimmicky all you want, but the Wii proved to be a major boon for Nintendo this generation, which is something that they needed after the GameCube was left in the dust. Sure, it may have petered out, but its performance utterly embarrassed Microsoft and Sony, who started off the generation completely dismissive of the Wii only to be inclined to find their own motion control solutions.

@Claude said:

@Ragdrazi said:

I think the real question is would a third party Nintendo future be good for the industry. Wii aside, I think Nintendo has been operating like a third party developer for decades now, so on that end having a broader market for the latest Zelda game would probably be good for everyone. I personally do not like the Wii. I think it's forced "innovation" that has taken the industry to a real bad place. Now that the trendiness of the Wii has dried up, I think they either need to push real innovation with their new box, or make room for a fresh company.

How has the trendiness dried up when Microsoft and Sony just released their motion devises last year?

The Wii is done. The market has moved to a bad place of gimmicky motion devices for casual gamers. They wanted the next big thing. Nintendo could have given it to them. Microsoft and Sony's market is going to dry up just like the Wii's did. Nintendo could have kept riding the cash train, but instead they're making just a console. Now, if they can push innovation on that console then more power to them. But given the recent history of the industry and of Nintendo themselves that doesn't seem like it's going to be very easy for them.

It seems dickish to actively want something to fail. I never want companies to fail. Unless of course, they're killing kittens in mass slaughter houses just for the hell of it, or something like that. Then by all means, fail away. And with Nintendo, they're never afraid to try new things. And while some people bitch and complain about that, I happen to love it. I'm excited to see what the Wii U can do.