That never would've happened. Even if they did try and do it behind closed doors, Reddit-Batman and his partner Gaf-boy would be on the case digging it up.

and then that would be effective journalism.

I seriously doubt that this will any affect at all on OR's final release sales.
People underestimate the demand for OR, it's all kinds of crazy...

Devkit 2.0 is currently open for pre-order, they keep on stressing that it's "not an consumer product, only for developers!" but that won't phase anybody. Pre-ordering now will get you an Devkit 2.0 in August this year the soonest.

OR has a product that's "all the hot shit" and will stay "the hot shit" for a foreseeable future. Sure there are some competitors, but those can't really keep up with OR in terms of quality of the product. Right now OR can't even supply all the demand that's present, even if they actually wanted to, because there are simply not enough suppliers for screens.

This will get even worse with every new OR iteration released. Their final goal being something like "4k on 100 hz for $300", for those the supply will be even WORSE.
While the shortage of supply sometimes ends up working against a product, in the case of OR it's working for it in all the right ways.

The real question that actually remains: Is the final 4k/100hz/$300 version just an hoax, or is it actually viable from an economic point of view?

"Willingly" is such an nice word, considering that the majority of people on Facebook have no clue at all that their personal information is being sold. They believe that setting things to "private" or deleting them is enough to prevent that information from being spread by Facebook.

It get's even worse when Facebook goes out of their way to get the information you won't "willingly" supply to them, like buying up WhatsApp and thus the mobile numbers of it's whole userbase.

Let's also not ignore the biggest elephant in the room: Zuckerberg's "ideas" about what to use OR for. A virtual mall with virtual adds popping at you, in 3D!


Sorry but that's not a VR future i'm gonna support, it's just so unimaginative and so damn greedy that i get a urge to puke just thinking about it. If you want Zuckerberg's ideas inside VR, then you will be damning VR to be the "Social Media Games 2.0". Anybody still remember those? That's really the direction you want VR gaming to move!?

@crithon: While true that that would've been effective journalism, we'd still end up in the same situation. There was no way this wouldn't have gone public and the same conversations wouldn't have happened.

Look, the people at Oculus have said that the reason they opted to be bought was because Facebook said that they would let the Oculus people do what they do without interfering with the potential bullshit you speak of. That's not to say that the ideas you mentioned won't happen. They might. But let's wait and see what really happens before getting outraged.

@jesus_phish: well..... unless Zenimax is intending on ruining Oculus and Facebook? I doubt that, I really doubt anyone is out to destroy one another even if they counter sue. Although making it public really does just come off as a threat until the plaintiff gets a buy out and that's just so childish especially this is a case where it'd just end up listing up work scheduled hours and scripting codes. Because..... we can easily load up the Carmack interview with Brad and take a look at the duct tape prototype they claims that Oculus now has.

Jeaious Ex Boyfriend crying at a window again. Hehe, I doubt Valve is suing Oculus over Michael Abrash leaving. Remember a lot of people claimed that Valve's VR headset was more advance then Oculus Rift before the 1080p version.

First of all. Everyone is absolutely jumping on a Zenimax hate-train. Look at the comments in here. At the very least they're jumping on a Zenimax-is-lying-train.

I'm going to stand by my "crazy" opinion that we don't have enough information to say who did what and we probably never will. And I'd like to reiterate that I never said Facebook shouldn't do anything. I just think handling it like this, making their statement one of the biggest stories on the internet (this statement was absolutely everywhere yesterday), was shitty. I also think it's a false premise to say something like this couldn't have been handled privately. That is not true. Especially if this case is as open and shut as they're saying. If they sat down with Zenimax and showed them all of this evidence that they're claiming to have right now than they could have gotten it thrown out and let the story speak for itself. Then they look like the bigger man at the end of the day and more respectful. Without playing the billionaire victim. Instead they decided to juice up the plot and turn this into some theatrical war that the internet will lap up vigorously and hatefully.

Don't worry. Oculus is going to be fine in all this. They're Facebook now.

OH DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

Hold on, let me just throw this post into the definition for FUD real quick.

On the one hand, Zenimax is being more than a bit petty.

On t he other hand, I can't bring myself to root for any company connected to Facebook.

So, is there any way they can both fail here?

Oculus SLAMS Zenimax over Allegations

If this was any other website I feel this would be the headline. I don't know why this is a journalism thing.

I hate to be "that girl," but...

Yes, and EA promised not to meddle in BioWare's game making process, and look where we are now...

Promises are easy to break once you're the owner. Just because the salespeople said all the right things doesn't mean Occulus rift isn't going to be steered away from hardcore gaming now that the money's changed hands.

Not that it matters to me, as I've no interest in VR, but either you or the Occulus people are very, very naive to expect that there won't be any meddling from the upper office. You make a deal with the devil, you better expect he's going to get his.

It's worth noting as well, that the examples of given of what Facebook would do with OR (virtual malls etc) were said by the CEO of the company in his official statement on the buyout.

Wasn't aware of the fact that the Rift source code is available. No way Zenimax can get anything out of this when the source code is out there as proof that there is nothing in there that was done by Zenimax.

There is nothing "FUD" about a lot of the complaints brought up against Facebook in the past, feel free to read up on the details about the specific claim regarding privacy/deleted content.

There is a reason Facebook is signed up as an Irish company in Europe, besides mere tax-advantages, have you seen what the offices of the Data Protection Commission in Ireland looks like?

This "institution" is supposed to regulate an multinational, several billion dollar heavy, company? In your dreams buddy... in your dreams.

Sounds like ZeniMax has started something they can't finish.

ZeniMax is hands down one of the most disgusting companies out there. They get a free pass with most gamers because they're behind the Elder Scrolls/ Fallout games. I knew id Software was screwed when they sold their soul to those scumbags, and I was surprised Carmack stayed as long as he did.

Gotta admit when this thing started, I kinda guessed Oculus would respond with a good defence given the circumstances. But there was no way I was expecting them to just strut in pull out this amazing, seemingly water tight statement. Then seem to simply just drop the mic and leave ZeniMax choking. This is just excellent!

@umdesch4: sigh....That's not what I said.

You mean an open world game?

BOOM!!!!

When money is involved the lawyers come out to play. For them its a win/win situation.