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#1 Edited By Hitchenson

Before we get started I should make it clear that I know nothing when it comes to PCs. However I'm looking to get a good gaming PC, so, alas, I'd like some help in regards to this. Now I've been told this site here is good for assembling a PC, so if I'm to take this route I'd like to know what the hell it is I should be picking due to not having the slightest clue. But if you've got your own suggestions I'd be happy to hear them. Thanks!

Oh yeah, I should probably say I've got around £1,000-£1,500 to spend and I'll need a monitor, keyboard/mouse and speakers as well. Again, thanks!

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#2 Edited By captain_clayman

any prefrences for intel/amd or nvidia/ati or are you neutral?
or do you not care?

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#3 Edited By Hitchenson

@captain_clayman: Honestly, I've no preference. So whatever your personal pick is would be fine, dude.

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#4 Edited By natetodamax

I heard the Apple Macintosh is the new hot trend of the 21st century.

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#5 Edited By FrenchFriedFool

You are much better off with nVidia.

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#6 Edited By ninjakiller

@natetodamax: WRONG.

@Hitchenson:
Don't get an integrated graphics card. Bump up the ram and spend some decent money on a graphics card man, otherwise you'll be kicking yourself when your games look like shit.

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#7 Edited By captain_clayman

@Hitchenson said:

" @captain_clayman: Honestly, I've no preference. So whatever your personal pick is would be fine, dude. "

alrighty lets see here

how bout CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=amd_phenom_ii_x4_965-_-19-103-727-_-Product

motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131392&cm_re=asus_am3-_-13-131-392-_-Product

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193&cm_re=4gb_DDR3-_-20-231-193-_-Product

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216&Tpk=CM%20690%20II%20advanced

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150476&cm_re=ATi_5870-_-14-150-476-_-Product

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009&cm_re=850w-_-17-139-009-_-Product

Monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236063&cm_re=asus_monitor-_-24-236-063-_-Product

glad i could help ;)
idk how much that'll run ya exactly but around 1200 bucks US (idk how much that is in the UK)

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#8 Edited By captain_clayman

@FrenchFriedFool said:

" You are much better off with nVidia. "

if you're an nvidia fanboy you are
but this guy doesn't care, and ATI is affordable.

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#9 Edited By FrenchFriedFool

@captain_clayman said:

"and ATI is affordable. "

Says the man who linked a $410 video card. What a irrelevant point.

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#10 Edited By captain_clayman

@FrenchFriedFool said:

" @captain_clayman said:
"and ATI is affordable. "
Says the man who linked a $410 video card. What a irrelevant point. "

well lets see, you can buy a 5870 for 400, or you can buy a GTX 285 for 400. the 5870 is way more value. you get directx 11, eyefinity, GDDR5, all that jazz for the same price.

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#11 Edited By captain_clayman

@Fragstoff said:

" @captain_clayman said:
" @FrenchFriedFool said:
" You are much better off with nVidia. "
if you're an nvidia fanboy you are but this guy doesn't care, and ATI is affordable. "
you call him a fanboy? then say if he doesn't have a preference to go with ATI? he's also not getting all defensive, think about it... "

ok, ok wrong choice of words. but if you don't have any preference than ATI is the way to go.
i'm not saying one company is bettter than the other, i'm just saying ATI's got better stuff out right now.

sure nvidia's gonna put out their new cards soon, but knowing nvidia, they're probably gonna cost a lot more than ATI's cards with pretty much the same performance.

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#12 Edited By PufferFiz

@captain_clayman said:

" @FrenchFriedFool said:
" @captain_clayman said:
"and ATI is affordable. "
Says the man who linked a $410 video card. What a irrelevant point. "
well lets see, you can buy a 5870 for 400, or you can buy a GTX 285 for 400. the 5870 is way more value. you get directx 11, eyefinity, GDDR5, all that jazz for the same price. "

Honestly Wait till we get more info about fermi, the GTX470 is projected to be around 300. If you don't mind waiting for 2 more weeks to get your parts.

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#13 Edited By Rockanomics

I've always used Nvidia until my latest, just because that's what I happened to start with, but from what I've heard the production on the recent stuff has been really crummy.

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#14 Edited By Skytylz

@PufferFiz said:

" @captain_clayman said:
" @FrenchFriedFool said:
" @captain_clayman said:
"and ATI is affordable. "
Says the man who linked a $410 video card. What a irrelevant point. "
well lets see, you can buy a 5870 for 400, or you can buy a GTX 285 for 400. the 5870 is way more value. you get directx 11, eyefinity, GDDR5, all that jazz for the same price. "
Honestly Wait till we get more info about fermi, the GTX470 is projected to be around 300. If you don't mind waiting for 2 more weeks to get your parts. "

Then if he waits another 2 weeks it will be obsolete :P

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#15 Edited By captain_clayman

@PufferFiz said:

" @captain_clayman said:
" @FrenchFriedFool said:
" @captain_clayman said:
"and ATI is affordable. "
Says the man who linked a $410 video card. What a irrelevant point. "
well lets see, you can buy a 5870 for 400, or you can buy a GTX 285 for 400. the 5870 is way more value. you get directx 11, eyefinity, GDDR5, all that jazz for the same price. "
Honestly Wait till we get more info about fermi, the GTX470 is projected to be around 300. If you don't mind waiting for 2 more weeks to get your parts. "

300?
from what i heard it's gonna be like 500. i dunno, we'll wait and see. i have nothing against nvidia so if it is 300 i actually suggest that.

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#16 Edited By Jadeskye

wow i was gonna express my views in here but i think it's a waste of time to add urine to this piss fight O_o

PM me if you want real advice lol.

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#17 Edited By korwin

You know one of these days someone (maybe me) will put together a PC design thread. Something that lists a few builds within a certain price range. Would make life easier for the un-experienced looking for recommendations.

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#18 Edited By VACkillers

sorry but you gotta post UK links only guys... dont post any newegg stuff, those they are great for a reference for a build...

Edit ................... Ok dude, below is a pretty good setup using that website you originally posted and i think its pretty reasonable priced... pretty much near top end too to be honnest.... i also have another UK site that i'll do another build on for ya.... sorry if this might be a long post with all the stuff on it, just the way that particular website had it listed.....

Intel® Core™i7 Processor i7-860 (2.80GHz) 8MB Cache + HyperThreading
Free Item	FREE Assassin's Creed 2 DVD Game (RRP: £34.99) with any Intel® Core™ i3/i5/i7 CPU!
Memory (RAM)	4GB CORSAIR DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz - LIFETIME WARRANTY!
Motherboard	ASUS® P7H55D-M EVO: DDR3, 2 x USB 3.0, 1 x PCI, 2 x PCI-Ex 2.0
Operating System	Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
USB Options	8 x USB 2.0 PORTS (6 REAR + 2 FRONT) (2+ USB 3.0 on ASUS BOARDS)
Memory - 1 Hard Disk	640GB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
2 Hard Disk	1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
1 DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	22x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
2 DVD/BLU-RAY Drive	NONE
Graphics Card	1GB ATI RADEON™ HD 5870 PCI EXPRESS - DirectX® 11
2 Graphics Card	NONE
Sound Card	Sound Blaster® Audigy™ SE (£28)
Network Facilities	ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Modem	NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND
Floppy Disk Drive	NONE
Memory Card Reader	INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (READS XD, MS, CF, SD, etc)
Case	COOLERMASTER HAF 932 FULL TOWER GAMING CASE (£107) SPECIAL
Power Supply & Case Cooling	800W Quiet Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£89)
Processor Cooling	INTEL SOCKET LGA1156 STANDARD CPU COOLER
Firewire & Video Editing	NONE
TV Card	NONE
Monitor	NONE
2 Monitor	NONE
GeForce 3D Vision	NONE
DVI Cable	NONE
Keyboard & Mouse	Logitech® G15 Gaming Keyboard with Gamepanel LCD Display (£65)
Mouse	NONE
Speakers	NONE
Webcam	NONE
Headsets (VOIP)	NONE
Surge Protection	NONE
Printer	NONE
Anti-Virus	MICROSOFT SECURITY ESSENTIALS - Free Basic Protection
Office Software	FREE 60 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 2007 Professional Edition
External Hard Drive	NONE
Home Installation	NONE
Warranty	1 Year Return-to-Base incl 1st Month Free Collect & Return
Delivery	STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time	Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
Quantity	1

£1133.62 ex VAT.

£1332 inc VAT and Delivery.

hope that helps ya dude... the graphics card is pretty much top of the line right now, i didn't put a monitor on there as you didn't mention if you needed one or not

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#19 Edited By deactivated-58c3985c661d1

someone recently posted an extremely detailed thread regarding building your own pc that would be perfect for you. i dont have the link for you. search for it

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#20 Edited By EvilTwin

@Hitchenson: http://www.giantbomb.com/pc/60-94/gaming-pcs-best-performance-for-the-price-march-1-2010/35-391816/#43

This might help out.

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#21 Edited By TheHT

@VACkillers: Oh yeaaaaahhhh, that's where it's at!!

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#22 Edited By SeriouslyNow

@captain_clayman said:

" @PufferFiz said:
" @captain_clayman said:
" @FrenchFriedFool said:
" @captain_clayman said:
"and ATI is affordable. "
Says the man who linked a $410 video card. What a irrelevant point. "
well lets see, you can buy a 5870 for 400, or you can buy a GTX 285 for 400. the 5870 is way more value. you get directx 11, eyefinity, GDDR5, all that jazz for the same price. "
Honestly Wait till we get more info about fermi, the GTX470 is projected to be around 300. If you don't mind waiting for 2 more weeks to get your parts. "
300? from what i heard it's gonna be like 500. i dunno, we'll wait and see. i have nothing against nvidia so if it is 300 i actually suggest that. "

That's correct, the 470GTX will be between 300-450 depending on RAM amounts and clockspeeds. The 480GTX will be around 500-750 depending on RAM config (upto 4GB) and clock speeds (XFX Black Editions etc)

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#23 Edited By VACkillers

@TheHT: lol

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#24 Edited By Hitchenson

Awesome. Thanks for all the help guys!

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#25 Edited By deactivated-59fb4bc479490

Just to make a few things clear...

You should buy:

AMD Phenom II 965 as others have suggested, the video card is fine, but I would rather suggest just getting a 5xxx series card to get dx11 and ddr5. Some have suggested very slow and crappy hard drives, keep in mind you want at least 32 mb cache and I would recommend getting a very large hard drive (1 tb mininum) and be sure to have something in case you need to back stuff up (not usb, but an extra internal). I would grab the corsair hx750 power supply and a gigabyte am3 sata6g/usb3.0 motherboard. The new amd chipset stuff just came out, that would be a nice pick. Reason for doing so, the pcb is twice as thick, so it allows things to run a lot cooler then other mobo's and you have more of a voltage tolerance.

I would highly suggest avoiding asus, I have had nothing but issues with them, especially something with an nvidia chipset (considering the sb fan issues on the nf4 mobos). Corsair makes some nice memory, just be sure to double check that you have the correct voltage. Lastly, when you pick out your video card, if you go ati grab an xfx one (lifetime warranty) and if you decide nvidia grab an evga one (yet again, lifetime warranty and the trade up program).

I forgot to mention the ddr speed. AMD's only run at 1333, I have had a lot of issues with running things at a higher mhz and the SPD data not showing up properly. Save yourself the trouble and grab some 1333 with the spd being around 7-7-7-20 if you can find it, but 9-9-9-27 will do you just fine.

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#26 Edited By VACkillers

yeah your probably right about the harddrives i picked, didn't even look at that side of things when i personally choose the harddrives for that build i posted, but they are the same harddrives i've personally got inside my machine and i have no problems at all with speed myself, but what i think is perfectly fine might not be to someone else lol

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