Great old school PC rpgs (not D&D based)?

#1 Posted by MrOldboy (869 posts) -

I've had a hankering to play an old school rpg. I've been trying to find a non-party based and non-D&D based game for PC.

I've played BG and other D&D games, but I'm looking for something different. I cant remember one I played in the past that did not fit the two stipulations I gave above, of those considered old school at least. Not looking for jrpgs.

I'd even settle for a modern "old school aesthetic" rpg for pc like Eschalon.

#2 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5826 posts) -

Have you tried the Gothic 1 and 2? They're kind of rough around the edges, but worth playing nonetheless. 
 
I also recommend Divine Divinity.

#3 Posted by Beforet (2921 posts) -

You're going to have a tough time, because old school CRPG basically means DnD ports.

For what it's worth, Gothic 1 is pretty dope. Never got around to Gothic 2, but I've heard it's the high point of the series.

#4 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

Risen is on sale at steam today.

#5 Posted by MrOldboy (869 posts) -

Never played Gothic, never wanted to at the time. Will check that out.

#6 Posted by Butano (1738 posts) -

By non-D&D, do you mean the ruleset, or the license in general(Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, Temple of Elemental Evil)? Most (if not all) CRPGs back then relied on a variant of the D20 system.

I'd suggest Fallout 1 & 2. They both start off a bit hard, but they still hold up today IMO. They doesn't force party members on you, but they're greatly appreciated in those games.

#7 Posted by mordukai (7150 posts) -

@Butano said:

By non-D&D, do you mean the ruleset, or the license in general(Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, Temple of Elemental Evil)? Most (if not all) CRPGs back then relied on a variant of the D20 system.

I'd suggest Fallout 1 & 2. They both start off a bit hard, but they still hold up today IMO. They doesn't force party members on you, but they're greatly appreciated in those games.

Not only that Fallout 1 & 2 hold up with Bethesda's "fallout" version they are actually better. Combat might be rough by todays standarts but the story makes up for any gameplay flew. Fallout 3 was is all about how much shit they could they condense into a single game as apposed to the old fallout game which were all about how much substance the shit we put in has. Did I mention that the story is 100 times better?

#8 Posted by Owlhead (153 posts) -

Does Rogue count?

If so, I strongly recommend it

#9 Posted by DeF (4887 posts) -

non party based? non-D&D?

check out Silver and Revenant

it's been ages since I played them so I only have my fond memories :) (never finished any of them though ...'cause I was young and stupid and aside from SNES RPGs, my only other experience was Diablo^^)

maybe check out Sanitarium, too? as far as I know it's more adventure-y but it has the same isometric camera and look to it as games like Baldur's Gate

#10 Edited by MrOldboy (869 posts) -

I've played the original fallout games quite a bit. Avadon interested me when it was on sale on steam, but the demo didn't interest me at all. Its s turn and party based game as far as I can tell.

Rogue is fun for me in short bursts, but I am looking for something a bit more in depth in terms of story/character progression.

The main reason I want an old school rpg is that I want a game I can play on my macbook/bootcamp while at my gf's. It's also just coincidence that I really want to play an old school rpg. I've just gotten sort of sick of the D&D ruleset games, but most games of that era used them, hence why I asked for a specific type of game here.

I'll check out Gothic, and maybe I'll just have to stick with a D&D game to fulfill my old school rpg itch.

I may check out some of the Might and Magic games, I barely played this series, and maybe an Ultima game, a bit before my time I think (at least the earlier games). Which games is these series are considered the "best" or favorites to go back to?

edit: Divine Divinity also, always meant to check it out, never did.

#11 Posted by Nentisys (892 posts) -

@mosdl said:

Risen is on sale at steam today.

While I really liked Risen, its not really a "old school" RPG.

#12 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

@Nentisys said:

@mosdl said:

Risen is on sale at steam today.

While I really liked Risen, its not really a "old school" RPG.

Gothic was mentioned and Risen is by the same guys.

There is always Dragon Age: Origins

#13 Posted by Dtat (1623 posts) -

Was Planescape: Torment DnD based? If not, pick that one!

#14 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11725 posts) -

@Dtat said:

Was Planescape: Torment DnD based? If not, pick that one!

Yes, Planescape is technically a D&D game. But really, you should play it anyways because the D&D license is incidental to the rest of the game.

Otherwise, I would pimp the Might and Magic series (especially VI and VII), Divine Divinity, and Wizardry 8. The last one is a little hard to find though, so I guess Fallout is an answer that I will give in its place.

#15 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Temple of Elemental Evil, because fuck what you said about non D&D games :P.

#16 Posted by artgarcrunkle (970 posts) -

@MrOldboy: How long was the demo for Avadon? Spiderweb usually gives you giant demos but Avadon is meant to appeal to a broader range of people so the tutorialized bit is considerably longer than usual and the game takes a while to get going. The writing is pretty good, and the story is basically about low-fantasy espionage, so if that seems cool to you maybe give it another try when it goes back on sale?

#17 Posted by sanchopanza (247 posts) -

@MrOldboy said:

edit: Divine Divinity also, always meant to check it out, never did.

Yeh, do check it out, kind of buggy in places, feel/tone of the game is great though.

Ultima games arent D&D right? Available on GOG for cheap too.

#18 Posted by Gargantuan (1882 posts) -

The best non D&D old school RPGs are Arcanum and Fallout 1 and 2

#19 Posted by MrOldboy (869 posts) -

@artgarcrunkle: maybe an hour. It looked interesting, but I wasn't looking for a party based combat game, which it looked like Avadon was.

For now I am going to try and play

Divine Divinity, go deeper into Eschalon book II perhaps, and maybe give some D&D based games a further look that I never played that are on GOG.

I second all the mentions for FO I & II, but I've already played those.

#20 Edited by TopSteer (656 posts) -
#21 Posted by KoolAid (936 posts) -

I just picked up titan quest on Steam. It's not that old school though but I didn't play it first time around

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