Is this PC build any good?

#1 Edited by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

So ive just about enough money saved to finaly get a gaming PC. I saw this build in a magazine adn was wondering how good it was. this is a 900 dollar build.

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Scout http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196&Tpk;=Cooler%20master%20scout hdd:

Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136939 gpu:

GIGABYTE GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363

psu: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD53 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130572

RAM: Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220466

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Optical Drive:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

This wasnt the same optical drive from the article. New egg didnt have that drive in stock. so was wondering if this one was good.

So, what do you guys think? is it a good build? I really just want a build that can run anything thats going to be released and atleast do it well.

Also, they was another build that listed that was about 400 dollars more I think:

Case Fractual design R3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352013

CPU Intel i5 2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

GPU EVGA 012-P3-2066-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130738

RAM Patriot gamer 8GB DDR3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220558

PSU Corsair Tx750M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139030

Motherboard Gigabyte GA Z68XP UD3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128512 HDD 2TB WD Caviar Green http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136891

optical drive again, its the samsung one that Newegg no longer has. so i need a recommendation.

SSD OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726

OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit

Is this build really better enough to warrant the extra cash? Is a SSD even necessary or needed? or should i just take the first build and add a 2500K CPU instead and maybe a 750W PSU and leave the rest like it is on that except maybe the case and just use the case from the second build?

#2 Edited by HaltIamReptar (2028 posts) -

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

hyperlink, duder!

edit: thanks. now this thread can commence.

#3 Posted by mordukai (7092 posts) -

One question. Do you intend to do any Over clocking?

#4 Posted by Bell_End (1208 posts) -

i personally don't like the case.

but everything else is great. the i5 2500k processor is fantastic and the GTX560 is a great GPU (would try and stretch to the 570 though).

#5 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

I dont think ill overclock. im not sure. I just want something that can run everything and do it well

#6 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

@mordukai said:

One question. Do you intend to do any Over clocking?

I dont think so. I just wanna run the games.

#7 Edited by mordukai (7092 posts) -

@Raven_Sword: If you know for sure you are not gonna OC it then your build is just fine. Frankly I'd go with the i5 2500K and a Z68 board. I'd also think about getting an after marker CPU cooler.

#8 Posted by Flaime (525 posts) -

I personally find 1TB to be a bit on the lower end. I don't know if you have any external hard drives or something like that, but consider getting a bit more - it's cheap.

#9 Posted by Korwin (2721 posts) -

Don't use a WD Green, it's a low speed power saving drive and isn't really suited for a high performance scenario (their primary use is large file storage). Your best off switching it out for a Black. Your also best off considering a Z77 motherboard now that they are out, it will still support the 2500 however it will have longer legs in the vendor support department.

#10 Posted by Bell_End (1208 posts) -

@Raven_Sword said:

@mordukai said:

One question. Do you intend to do any Over clocking?

I dont think so. I just wanna run the games.

it soooo easy to do having the option just makes sense for the small extra cost.

i got my i7 2600k from 3.5 to 4.5 with just a coolmaster 212 heatsink and has run flawlessly for about 6 months. and i have no previous experiance with over clocking.

#11 Posted by mordukai (7092 posts) -

@Bell_End said:

@Raven_Sword said:

@mordukai said:

One question. Do you intend to do any Over clocking?

I dont think so. I just wanna run the games.

it soooo easy to do having the option just makes sense for the small extra cost.

i got my i7 2600k from 3.5 to 4.5 with just a coolmaster 212 heatsink and has run flawlessly for about 6 months. and i have no previous experiance with over clocking.

I forked over a little bit more and got the N520.

#12 Posted by GeekDown (1170 posts) -

That PC is very similar to mine and I can run pretty much everything on very high settings. I think you'll be happy with it.

#13 Edited by Stonyman65 (2405 posts) -

1. I would get a case with USB 3 on the front panel for future proofing, try the Storm Enforcer.

2. I would get a higher watt power supply. Try the Corsair HX series 750 watt or even better 850 watt, so you have some headroom for future upgrades/rebuilds. Those are also modular too so no cable clutter

3. Get 16GB (2x 8GB) of RAM. It's not much more expensive and will be better in the long run. Try the Gskill Rapjaws

4. If you aren't overclocking, the i52500 is fine, if are overclocking, get the unlocked 2500k model. Also, get an aftermarket cooler like the CM hyper 212 or V6.

5. I would spend a little more and get the full version of Home Premium so you can still install that disk on other machines. Once you change out your hardware (the motherboard specifically) That OEM version will become inactive and you will have to buy a whole new copy of Windows again. With the full version, it's good for life. All you have to do is call up Microsoft and have them give you a new key.

6. Get a 1TB black drive. The greens are okay for storage, but that's about it. I wouldn't run games or the OS on it.

7. Save up some money and get an SSD sometime. They are worth every cent. Go with Intel, Crucial or Corsair - those seem to be the most reliable at this time.

#14 Posted by Korwin (2721 posts) -

@Stonyman65 said:

5. I would spend a little more and get the full version of Home Premium so you can still install that disk on other machines. Once you change out your hardware (the motherboard specifically) That OEM version will become inactive and you will have to buy a whole new copy of Windows again. With the full version, it's good for life. All you have to do is call up Microsoft and have them give you a new key.

By the time he's up to a point where he's replacing the guts of the rig he will likely be installing Windows 8 or 9.

#15 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

I posted another build in the main post. Is it really better enough to pony up the extra cash? or should I do like I said at the end of the main post where I take a different case and take the first, cheaper build, but add the 750W PSU and CPU from the second build?

#16 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

I could use some help guys.

#17 Edited by gosukiller (2324 posts) -

@Raven_Sword: There is no need for a 750watt psu in this build. You are clearly not the enthousiast "FILL THE ENTIRE CASE WITH LASERBEAMSLICROSSFIREGRENADES!" guy. 620 would be fine, even if you later decide to put another GTX560 in there.

A SSD is awesome, but you have to consider the low amount of storage. I don't know you, but I know that 120gb would never be enough for me. Consider getting another harddrive to compliment your SSD.

Also, Im curious: why the 560ti? I can personally recommend an amd 6950 (2gb), if you can find one for a similar price.

#18 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

Well, everyone seemed to have recommended the 560 ti

#19 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

Anyone else have any feedback?

#20 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

Go real deep get a 680!

#21 Posted by Kidavenger (3380 posts) -
#22 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

Well, I really wasn't planning on the SSD. I was just stating that was part of the higher budget build. Really, i was planning on the 900 dollar first build, but was really worried about the parts not being good or what would probaly needed to be changed from it.

#23 Posted by mosdl (3223 posts) -

@Korwin said:

@Stonyman65 said:

5. I would spend a little more and get the full version of Home Premium so you can still install that disk on other machines. Once you change out your hardware (the motherboard specifically) That OEM version will become inactive and you will have to buy a whole new copy of Windows again. With the full version, it's good for life. All you have to do is call up Microsoft and have them give you a new key.

By the time he's up to a point where he's replacing the guts of the rig he will likely be installing Windows 8 or 9.

The OEM version can be installed multiple times on different hardware - you just have to call MS (aka India), takes about 10 minutes.

#24 Posted by Mattalorian (594 posts) -

For gaming, it should be fine. You definitely won't be able to max out the graphic settings on a lot of the latest games, but for $900 it's a fine build. You might want to upgrade the video card at some point though. It's definitely the thing that makes the biggest difference in performance.

For what it's worth, my brother has the same case and he loves it. Keeps the machine running cool and it's super quiet.

#25 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

But is tge motherboard good? That's the one thing I really wanna get right the first time. And I really don't care too much about maxing them out, I care more about them looking great and better than my consoles and have it run nice and smooth.

#26 Posted by Raven_Sword (3383 posts) -

Also, is the second build that much better?

#27 Edited by Devildoll (831 posts) -

you guys have probably gone over this by now, but gamewise, there is no performance difference between those two builds.

they both have the same cpu, and the same graphics card, and the same amount of ram.

the more expensive build has some more expensive parts around those key components but nothing that affects actual game performance, the ssd will help you load stuff faster however.

regarding the motherboard, pretty much as long as it has all the connections and functions you want, and comes from a major manufacture, its going to be adequate.

unless theres anything fishy about the particular models in those two builds, they should both be allright motherboards.

as you are pretty set with the first build, i'd probably get that, but switch the harddrive for something that isnt a WD green ( cause they are slow and shouldnt be used as primary harddrives )

this is a pretty good alternative http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840

And i'd also go with the K version of the 2500, its just a measly 10 dollars more expensive, and it'll give you the ability to overclock, in case you get bored some afternoon in the future.

#28 Edited by A_Deep_Mushroom (84 posts) -

@Raven_Sword: Tom's Hardware did a article on a good $1250 pc. I'd suggest basically copy and paste it since it's close to your budget. I'd suggest you just splurge and buy that build.

#29 Posted by Seppli (9736 posts) -

@Raven_Sword:

I'd definitely get a SSD. Pondering to upgrade my rig with one. It definitely will make your system more responsive than ever before.

#30 Edited by Devildoll (831 posts) -

@A_Deep_Mushroom: that build doesnt seem to have windows included though. but other than that, the computer is really good bang for the buck, especially since the 7970 just had a price-drop.

@Seppli: yeah windows will boot quick, same goes for any program or game you have on the ssd.

its great for capping the first flag in bf3 before anyone else is even alive.

however, thats a pretty small perk to have if your gameplay is stuttery as hell.

as a gamer, i'd invest in potent components first, and then when i'm out of stuff to buy, i'd get that ssd.

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