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    Edited By Wildfire570

    Well I've been playing PC games for quite a long time (3-4 years to be more exact), and so I've gathered a healthy amount of games which most of them are on steam. I must say that I really do enjoy playing on the PC but even though I've been playing for so long, there is still a few things that really agitate me very much about the PC gaming market that really turns me off to gaming on the PC in general. Obviously you should already know what I'm talking about...

    The main beef that I have with PC gaming is the fact that in order play a handful of games these days is that you have to have the proper equipment. Now to be fair I'm not really looking for a super-ultra-mega gaming PC that runs Crysis at a very smooth rate, but I would still like a PC that can play a game at least somewhat smoothly. I'm more of a performance over quality all the time but even then I still feel as though I would need those high end parts in order to get most out of gaming. However its just ridiculous how expensive these parts are and lets face it, I'm not going to spend $300 just so I can be able to play a $50 or less game. It just insane to me! For all those curious about my PC all you really need to know that it can run most Valve games except I have to tweak Half-Life 2: Episode 2 to get it to run decently without choppy framerate.

    Another thing that really bugs me about buying PC games is the "Specs" needed in order to play a certain game. Now when I do go to the PC games section and take interest in a certain game obviously one of the things I look for is the "Recommended" requirements that are needed to play the game. Now theoretically, if I have the "Recommended" requirements I should to be able to play a PC game with at least a solid framerate without it looking sort of crappy. But however its just not the case for and it can get really irritating when I have to change settings all the time in order to have some kind of smoothness. Its tedious, occasionally confusing, and its just too much work for me.

    I really just don't know anymore...and it all just feels somewhat overwhelming to me. Are there any PC people that can at least enlighten me about PC Gaming and all the hardware stuff? Should I just go off and buy the parts to play a game?

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    #1  Edited By Wildfire570

    Well I've been playing PC games for quite a long time (3-4 years to be more exact), and so I've gathered a healthy amount of games which most of them are on steam. I must say that I really do enjoy playing on the PC but even though I've been playing for so long, there is still a few things that really agitate me very much about the PC gaming market that really turns me off to gaming on the PC in general. Obviously you should already know what I'm talking about...

    The main beef that I have with PC gaming is the fact that in order play a handful of games these days is that you have to have the proper equipment. Now to be fair I'm not really looking for a super-ultra-mega gaming PC that runs Crysis at a very smooth rate, but I would still like a PC that can play a game at least somewhat smoothly. I'm more of a performance over quality all the time but even then I still feel as though I would need those high end parts in order to get most out of gaming. However its just ridiculous how expensive these parts are and lets face it, I'm not going to spend $300 just so I can be able to play a $50 or less game. It just insane to me! For all those curious about my PC all you really need to know that it can run most Valve games except I have to tweak Half-Life 2: Episode 2 to get it to run decently without choppy framerate.

    Another thing that really bugs me about buying PC games is the "Specs" needed in order to play a certain game. Now when I do go to the PC games section and take interest in a certain game obviously one of the things I look for is the "Recommended" requirements that are needed to play the game. Now theoretically, if I have the "Recommended" requirements I should to be able to play a PC game with at least a solid framerate without it looking sort of crappy. But however its just not the case for and it can get really irritating when I have to change settings all the time in order to have some kind of smoothness. Its tedious, occasionally confusing, and its just too much work for me.

    I really just don't know anymore...and it all just feels somewhat overwhelming to me. Are there any PC people that can at least enlighten me about PC Gaming and all the hardware stuff? Should I just go off and buy the parts to play a game?

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    #2  Edited By Al3xand3r
    @Wildfire570 said:
    "Now to be fair I'm not really looking for a super-ultra-mega gaming PC that runs Crysis at a very smooth rate, but I would still like a PC that can play a game at least somewhat smoothly. "
    Crysis is a 2006 game, you can get a relatively cheap PC that runs it just fine nowadays. This guide seems decent.

    Recommended specifications are relatively accurate as far as I have seen.
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    #3  Edited By HitmanAgent47

    Ppl like you who keeps buying low end stuff to save money should not play pc games. Complaining about upgrades when you are making the wrong upgrades over and over again. Just get a gtx260 core 216 from anywhere online, it's cheap and affordable, It's about $160 if you can get a mail back rebate coupon, not $300, you can play most games no problem. Also get a fast cpu or overclock it. Just get a xbox360 instead if that's what you want, more performance. I can run half life episode 2 over 80 frames to a 100 on my 9800GTX, you really need to stop complaining and start buying smart upgrades.

    For crysis on very high, you can only run it with two gtx260 sli or a gtx295 which is a dual gpu game and it requires vista for true very high settings, don't worry about that game, no one can really run it well regardless.

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    #4  Edited By CL60

    Crysis isn't optimized very well. It's incredible looking though if you can manage to run it.

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    #5  Edited By atejas

    Crysis was poorly optimised. It's a bad benchmark for anything but sheer graphical power.

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    #6  Edited By Wildfire570

    @atejas said:

    "Crysis was poorly optimised. It's a bad benchmark for anything but sheer graphical power."

    Oh I didn't know that at all lol. Every time I hear about Crysis I always hear about the graphics and stuff like that.


    @HitmanAgent47 said:

    "Ppl like you who keeps buying low end stuff to save money should not play pc games. Complaining about upgrades when you are making the wrong upgrades over and over again. Just get a gtx260 core 216 from anywhere online, it's cheap and affordable, It's about $160 if you can get a mail back rebate coupon, not $300, you can play most games no problem. Also get a fast cpu or overclock it. Just get a xbox360 instead if that's what you want, more performance. I can run half life episode 2 over 80 frames to a 100 on my 9800GTX, you really need to stop complaining and start buying smart upgrades. For crysis on very high, you can only run it with two gtx260 sli or a gtx295 which is a dual gpu game and it requires vista for true very high settings, don't worry about that game, no one can really run it well regardless. "


    Thanks for the brutal honesty there (not sarcasm), I guess I just got fed up with it that all. I guess I'm just afraid that if I do end up buying the more expensive upgrades then all of a sudden something better will be released and I would have to buy that in order to make the requirements.

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    #7  Edited By PowerSerj
    @Wildfire570: Something better will always be released the second you receive your new hardware. The thing is, none of that matters unless you're an enthusiast (i.e. you always need to be on the bleeding edge). You should go buy some upgrades from 1 to 2 years back. These would be powerful enough to handle every game currently out and they won't break the bank.
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    #8  Edited By Jayge_

    You just have to build smart. PC gaming in comparison to console gaming can actually be less expensive over time if you're smart about it.


    The thing with recommended specs and all that crap is that they don't bother telling you what resolution to play at or what settings they had enabled when they got the recommended specs. I can run Crysis on this PC at like 25-30 FPS at 1920x1080, but I can get way more with a bit less AA and a lower resolution. You can usually at least get a decent framerate out of any game as long as you're willing to fiddle and fiddle and then fiddle some more.
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    #9  Edited By HitmanAgent47
    @Wildfire570:

    There are certain upgrades you should be worried about, a fast enough cpu like the clock core if your not overclocking it and a good enough videocard. All you really need is a gtx260 core 216 and there is no more point to upgrade beyond that and it will last you a few years. Get anything less, you might have a problem with using anti aliasing or the game might get a bit choppy and it won't be a smart upgrade. You will max out most games besides crysis. A 8400 dual core 3.0Ghz will be fast enough for most games because slower clock cores can bottleneck framerates. Alot of ppl are getting the i7 core cpu, it's not necessary for most games and it's expensive. Think about your goal and what you want to accomplish, there will always be new cards every few months, just get one that will max out most games, like I said a gtx260 core 216 is really cheap now at newegg or wherever, $170 with mail in rebate I think. That's a good deal and a good upgrade.
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    #10  Edited By iam3green

    u need to learn what kind of upgrades u need. it sounds like u are buying things that are not as great as u think they are. i still have pentium 4, it is running great. it plays crysis on high. u should look at crysis warhead. the game is a lot more optimized then crysis. i played the trial for crysis wars and the graphics looked a lot better and ran a lot smoother then crysis.

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    #11  Edited By AmericanPegasus
    @iam3green said:
    " u need to learn what kind of upgrades u need. it sounds like u are buying things that are not as great as u think they are. i still have pentium 4, it is running great. it plays crysis on high. u should look at crysis warhead. the game is a lot more optimized then crysis. i played the trial for crysis wars and the graphics looked a lot better and ran a lot smoother then crysis. "

    Not it doesn't, P4 will not run Crysis on high and you know it.

    And OP if your computer can't run half life epis 2 without a decent framerate the problem is that you bought a crappy PC , probably a prebuilt that cost more then a decent gaming PC.

    So then you got ripped off, came on here start raving about having to pay 300 bucks for an upgrade when a graphics card that will max everything, even crysis only cost 130 or so. And if you have to upgrade the processor, chances are your PC is older then the last latest consoles SO then you have no room to complain anyways.



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    #12  Edited By gloomytangent

    Here's the thing man. 3-4 years isn't really a long time. A lot of the hardcore PC gamers I know are guys in their 40s and 50s who have been waaaaay too into it for like 20 years. We're talking loading up 5.25 inch discs to play insane flight sims. Most of these guys have years and years of experience and thus know their way around a computer. That's why companies are able to get away with how incredibly obtuse the PC market is, although their ability to pull that is definitely being edged out by competition from consoles.

    My advice? Start saving some money up not to upgrade, but to build your own rig. It'll cost you maximum 2/3rds what you would pay for a pre-made computer and you'll get better performance out of it than with a pre-fab since you'll probably be using higher quality parts...  Not to mention you won't load your rig down with bloatware like most big box computers. Most importantly though, you'll gain valuable experience. By the time you're done you'll know every part in your computer and you'll be able to take it apart and put it back together again, and better yet you'll be able to do that to most any modern computer. That's a valuable skill to have.

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    #13  Edited By krazy_kyle

    I have been playing PC games since around 2004/5 and i can agree with the fact that it can be expensive to keep upgrading your pc. But its not overly expensive if you try to future proof your system, for example i bought a really cheap procesor that just happens to be a quad core (q6600) to be exact, but it wasnt even that expensive. my motherboard is a p5k-e wifi ap premium and it was £60! the most expensive piece of hardware for me was the graphics card cuz i didnt want my games looking bad. I bought a Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB. I was able to run crysis maxed out with little framerate drop, although i only have a 1280x1024 monitor.

    Another understandable problem is the lack of "Good" games coming out. Im kinnda stuck with Left 4 Dead atm and some counter strike. This is making me lean more to the xbox 360 now which is a great console but i do prefer the pc for fps action games. Im not a big fan of RTS or MMO games either.

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