Saving up to buy a PC!

#1 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

I have been saving up and right now have about 800 dollars saved to get a PC. However I do not know much about the inner workings of a computer. Can anyone help me out in this little spot? What im interested is in soothing I can upgrade later on but still run games easily like Witcher 2. BFBC2 and Deus EX. I really am on a limited budget right now. I do not expect this to be future proof and will upgrade peaces when I have more money.  
 
A friend of mine has all ready given my a list of parts 
 
 
Mother Board 
Video card 
Power Source 
Case 
HDD 
SDD x2
CD/DVD 
Processor  
Ram

#2 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -

Newegg is yo friend. So is posting on facebook that you're looking for computer parts.
 
Motherboard- I don't know enough to help with the motherboard. I had one sold to me with the assurances it was good, and it was. I don't have any specs for it. 
video card- there's good deals on worthwhile video cards all the time.  
Power source- its something I would spend on from the start. Buy one over 650 watts so that you won't have to worry about upgrading it.  I think I got mine for 50-60 bucks though, so they aren't horribly expensive
Case-since you are on a limited budget, this can wait. School districts often sell their old computers and cases for really cheap, and those cases would work fine. Unless you get a large video card. That's what I used at first, and things fit snugly, but perfectly. Since then, a friend sold me another, pretty darn nice one after he bought a new one himself. 
HDD- Get a big one now. You'll be saving everything to it. I bought myself a TB a few months ago at Newegg on sale for 60$. Its not terribly fast or anything, but I love it. If you must have a solid state, that's fine I suppose but I don't think they're worth it.  
CD-DVD- I've got one that apparently worked in a computer 7 years ago. The only time I've used it was to install windows and sim city 4.  
RAM- I've got two gigs, but you should be fine with one.  
 
If you manage your cash decently, 800 bucks should be more than enough. Start off small, and If you've got cash left over, so be it. Like I say, splurge on the Power Source and Hard Drive, and you'll probably want to spend big on the motherboard, but I don't know much about that as mentioned above. 

#3 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@AgentJ said:
Newegg is yo friend. So is posting on facebook that you're looking for computer parts. Motherboard- I don't know enough to help with the motherboard. I had one sold to me with the assurances it was good, and it was. I don't have any specs for it. video card- there's good deals on worthwhile video cards all the time.  Power source- its something I would spend on from the start. Buy one over 650 watts so that you won't have to worry about upgrading it.  I think I got mine for 50-60 bucks though, so they aren't horribly expensiveCase-since you are on a limited budget, this can wait. School districts often sell their old computers and cases for really cheap, and those cases would work fine. Unless you get a large video card. That's what I used at first, and things fit snugly, but perfectly. Since then, a friend sold me another, pretty darn nice one after he bought a new one himself. HDD- Get a big one now. You'll be saving everything to it. I bought myself a TB a few months ago at Newegg on sale for 60$. Its not terribly fast or anything, but I love it. If you must have a solid state, that's fine I suppose but I don't think they're worth it.  CD-DVD- I've got one that apparently worked in a computer 7 years ago. The only time I've used it was to install windows and sim city 4.  RAM- I've got two gigs, but you should be fine with one.   If you manage your cash decently, 800 bucks should be more than enough. Start off small, and If you've got cash left over, so be it. Like I say, splurge on the Power Source and Hard Drive, and you'll probably want to spend big on the motherboard, but I don't know much about that as mentioned above. 
And of course ill have to worry about a sceen. Speakers. OS. 
#4 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

#5 Posted by Surkov (991 posts) -

Why do you need two SSDs? 

#6 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@scarace360 said:
get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.
Im trying to stay under 800 bucks right now 
#7 Edited by Marz (5642 posts) -

You really don't need two SSD's... i'd just get a better motherboard + i5 2500k with that money.

#8 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@Marz said:
You really don't need two SSD's... i'd just get a better motherboard with that money.
Can you make a suggestion? 
#9 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

#10 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
#11 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
Nah you're not. I just found it personally hilarious considering the OP's situation.
#12 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@OllyOxenFree said:
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
Nah you're not. I just found it personally hilarious considering the OP's situation.
ya still 8 better than 4.
#13 Posted by Kidavenger (3509 posts) -

If you are on a budget, you don't need a SSD at all, it's like putting a cherry on a sundae with no ice cream.

HDD should be 7200rpm.

#14 Posted by bybeach (4724 posts) -

6 gigs of ram triple channel if the MB supports it. 4 gigs minimum with eye on more. A i5 Cpu, a 560 GPu or next step up if money is there, 600 watts PSU minimum, oh well, basically you got 1/2 of what I would have you spend. Other PPl. may have truly informed alt. suggestions.

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#15 Posted by bybeach (4724 posts) -

And I agree, forget about the SSD. Think WD cavalier black.

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#16 Edited by Marz (5642 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:

@Marz said:

You really don't need two SSD's... i'd just get a better motherboard with that money.
Can you make a suggestion? 
yes you can drop 1 ssd and get
 motherboard 134.99 (after mail in rebate, it's only on sale till july 31st)
i5 2500k $215.99
 
200 + 188 + 75 =  $463  is how much your spending with your first setup
99 +  216 + 135 = $451 is how much you'd be spending with my revised setup, sounds a bit better no?
#17 Posted by AgentJ (8778 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:
@AgentJ said:
Newegg is yo friend. So is posting on facebook that you're looking for computer parts. Motherboard- I don't know enough to help with the motherboard. I had one sold to me with the assurances it was good, and it was. I don't have any specs for it. video card- there's good deals on worthwhile video cards all the time.  Power source- its something I would spend on from the start. Buy one over 650 watts so that you won't have to worry about upgrading it.  I think I got mine for 50-60 bucks though, so they aren't horribly expensiveCase-since you are on a limited budget, this can wait. School districts often sell their old computers and cases for really cheap, and those cases would work fine. Unless you get a large video card. That's what I used at first, and things fit snugly, but perfectly. Since then, a friend sold me another, pretty darn nice one after he bought a new one himself. HDD- Get a big one now. You'll be saving everything to it. I bought myself a TB a few months ago at Newegg on sale for 60$. Its not terribly fast or anything, but I love it. If you must have a solid state, that's fine I suppose but I don't think they're worth it.  CD-DVD- I've got one that apparently worked in a computer 7 years ago. The only time I've used it was to install windows and sim city 4.  RAM- I've got two gigs, but you should be fine with one.   If you manage your cash decently, 800 bucks should be more than enough. Start off small, and If you've got cash left over, so be it. Like I say, splurge on the Power Source and Hard Drive, and you'll probably want to spend big on the motherboard, but I don't know much about that as mentioned above. 
And of course ill have to worry about a sceen. Speakers. OS. 
Or you plug the HDMI into a TV. thats what I do. Negates the need for a screen OR speakers. Operating system will be necessary tohugh, and I'm not sure whether XP is a good bet for a gaming rig or not. 7 has been great but if you're trying to save a bit...
#18 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
Nah you're not. I just found it personally hilarious considering the OP's situation.
ya still 8 better than 4.
RAM trolling never gets old <3
#19 Posted by ajamafalous (11846 posts) -

I would say drop BOTH SSDs until you've got more money to spend.
 
 
As for your HDD, you definitely need a 7200 RPM and not a 5900 RPM. I'd recommend a Western Digital Caviar Black.

#20 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
Nah you're not. I just found it personally hilarious considering the OP's situation.
ya still 8 better than 4.
RAM trolling never gets old <3
man i hate you ahmed.
#21 Posted by Ghooble (80 posts) -

I actually agree with Scarace whether he was trolling or not. I currently have 4gb of RAM and am looking to upgrade soon to 8 once i have a new mobo that supports it. 1gb isn't enough these days, 4gb is the least I would suggest. 
-Ghooble

#22 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

Sadly this will be on hold. Recent money issues have forced me to spend most of my saved money. Thanks for the help. 

#23 Posted by Origina1Penguin (3500 posts) -

That's too bad. When you do get some money scraped together, consider asking at Tested. The community helped me out a bunch. What is your current PC specifications? You may be able to just upgrade a couple things.

#24 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@Origina1Penguin said:

That's too bad. When you do get some money scraped together, consider asking at Tested. The community helped me out a bunch. What is your current PC specifications? You may be able to just upgrade a couple things.

Its a 3 year old laptop, Im really upset. It was somthing out of my control and zapped a chunk of my money.  
 
Maybe ill make a kickstart page lol. 
#25 Posted by Akrid (1356 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man said:
Sadly this will be on hold. Recent money issues have forced me to spend most of my saved money. Thanks for the help. 
Good on ya fer self restraint! Oh so many people in this world would just spend it anyway...
 
As @Origina1Penguin said, when you get that dough back again mosey on over to Tested and they will hook you up.
#26 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@Akrid said:
@The_Laughing_Man said:
Sadly this will be on hold. Recent money issues have forced me to spend most of my saved money. Thanks for the help. 
Good on ya fer self restraint! Oh so many people in this world would just spend it anyway...
 
As @Origina1Penguin said, when you get that dough back again mosey on over to Tested and they will hook you up.
Tested hooking people up since 1896.
#27 Posted by Origina1Penguin (3500 posts) -

I'll contribute $5 to the "Get The_Laughing_Man A New PC Fund." About 300 donations like that and you can make a very nice PC.

#28 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@Origina1Penguin said:

I'll contribute $5 to the "Get The_Laughing_Man A New PC Fund." About 300 donations like that and you can make a very nice PC.

Lol I could just sit outside" Donate money to buy PC. Will /dance"  
 
Its real annoying that this happened. Right now Im kinda paranoid to not have under 1k in my bank account (I all ways want enough so I can pay rent full by myself saved just in case) But ya. Its kinda crappy that I woke up one day and a bill had piled up and we had phone and internet shut off without a warning. 
#29 Posted by BUCK3TM4N (549 posts) -

id recommend a 6000 series card just cause they are more efficient with DX11 so like a 6870

#30 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@BUCK3TM4N said:
id recommend a 6000 series card just cause they are more efficient with DX11 so like a 6870
Right now I am putting this all on hold. Ive been cut down to near only 600 bucks. 
#31 Edited by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

@Ahmad_Metallic said:

@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
Nah you're not. I just found it personally hilarious considering the OP's situation.
ya still 8 better than 4.
RAM trolling never gets old <3

Real mens have 16gig ram !

...at minimum

#32 Edited by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@BUCK3TM4N said:
id recommend a 6000 series card just cause they are more efficient with DX11 so like a 6870
Right now I am putting this all on hold. Ive been cut down to near only 600 bucks.

That´s a shame but if helps of something I just bought another PC for my office... no way I´m gona waste my time on facebook with Battlefield 3 out there soon.

Anyway the specs are:

-Intel i5 (cheapest one don´t remember which model)

-Gigabyte mother board (cheap one)

-520 gb western digital

-8 gb ram

-Nvidia gtx 460

-Samsung LED 18"

-600 watt power supply.

I wasted 650 dlls in total.. I already had speakers, keyboard and mouse to spare. In my expirience extra RAM do help a lot.. I´m not quite sure why, but it really seems to help having a little bit to spare.

This setup here runs Bad Company 2 at max specs in 1380x768 at 60+ fps. If you going budget I STRONGLY recomend to have 18" screen. Big resolution always bring big problems and big expenses to PC games

1380x768 seems like a "low" resolution for todays PCs but it is more than twice the amount of pixels you find in a 1080p screen, Needless to say the game looks amazing.

#33 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@DonPixel said:

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@BUCK3TM4N said:
id recommend a 6000 series card just cause they are more efficient with DX11 so like a 6870
Right now I am putting this all on hold. Ive been cut down to near only 600 bucks.

That´s a shame but if helps of something I just bought another PC for my office... no way I´m gona waste my time on facebook with Battlefield 3 out there soon.

Anyway the specs are:

-Intel i5 (cheapest one don´t remember which model)

-Gigabyte mother board (cheap one)

-520 gb western digital

-8 gb ram

-Nvidia gtx 460

-Samsung LED 18"

-600 watt power supply.

I wasted 650 dlls in total.. I already had speakers, keyboard and mouse to spare. In my expirience extra RAM do help a lot.. I´m not quite sure why, but it really seems to help having a little bit to spare.

This setup here runs Bad Company 2 at max specs in 1380x768 at 60+ fps. If you going budget I STRONGLY recomend to have 18" screen. Big resolution always bring big problems and big expenses to PC games

1380x768 seems like a "low" resolution for todays PCs but it is more than twice the amount of pixels you find in a 1080p screen, Needless to say the game looks amazing.

Could that set up also run BF3? And maybe the Wticher 2?  
 
I really only right now have around 600 bucks. 
#34 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@DonPixel said:

@Ahmad_Metallic said:

@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:
@scarace360 said:
@OllyOxenFree said:

@scarace360 said:

get 8 gigs of ram thats a great amount for a gaming rig.

Oh my god hahaha.

>_> now im gonna get shitted on.
Nah you're not. I just found it personally hilarious considering the OP's situation.
ya still 8 better than 4.
RAM trolling never gets old <3

Real mens have 16gig ram !

...at minimum

Real men use 20 gigs ram!
#35 Edited by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

@The_Laughing_Man: I´m pretty confident that set up works just fine with both games.

As with resolution Player count used to be a performance deal in Battlefield 2. I remember I to spent around 2 or more months playing only in 32 players server when bf2 came out, because full 64 players servers broke my FPS badly.

As a side note: I had the GTX460 already (for reasons long to explain), I include it to make the sum but I already had it. For todays prices you might wana get the Nivida Gtx470 it has a performance boost of arround 15 to 20% over the 460 and it´s like 20 dlls expensier.

I have the 470gtx at home in my main PC and it ran the bf3 alpha at high in 1920x1080 +60fps

#36 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@DonPixel said:

@The_Laughing_Man: I´m pretty confident that set up works just fine with both games.

As with resolution Player count used to be a performance deal in Battlefield 2. I remember I to spent around 2 or more months playing only in 32 players server when bf2 came out, because full 64 players servers broke my FPS badly.

As a side note: I had the GTX460 already (for reasons long to explain), I include it to make the sum but I already had it. For todays prices you might wana get the Nivida Gtx470 it has a performance boost of arround 15 to 20% over the 460 and it´s like 20 dlls expensier.

I have the 470gtx at home in my main PC and it ran the bf3 alpha at high in 1920x1080 +60fps

I am gonna try to save up again but right now the 600 is max I have. If you can dig up the specs and where you bought the stuff it would be great. 
#37 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

SDDs are a terrible idea for a sub 800$ computer. You're going to regret not having enough graphical power. Invest more money there. Get a 560ti or 570 even.

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