I may be on the wrong thread. I can't find any other one.

I am looking for a new gaming mouse.

This was the best I could find. Is there anything that outperforms this? I love the shape, the specs look like they outperform most other mice, and the button count and position are very nice.

Is there anything I am missing or a mouse that is better. My concern is that its wireless and that it will lose some quality there. Would a mouse with golden plated USB be better in a significant way? Questions like that...

Thank you for anyone who obliges. I recently got a fairly powerful PC and I am still learning.    

Look into Razer, fantastic make of PC gaming peripherals. I have been using a deathadder since 2007. Logitech also make some fantastic gaming mice

Which one? I think you forgot to add a link.
 
And no. I don't know of any benefit of having a golden plated USB mouse. Sounds like a gimmick to me.

I have a Logitech G9.  
 
It's nifty.       

It works.  

I recently got the Logitech MX518 and it works great. It's very accurate.

I think you forgot to link.
 
Anyway, I have a Coolermaster sentinel advance, now even though CM are not known for building mice (at all), this was actually a nice purchase, I use the computer ALOT and have never had a cramp or aching hand at all.

You really don't need a gaming mouse. Unless your looking to waste some money, in which case you definitely need one.

Razer

I use a Razer DeathAdder myself... Qreat quality for sucha  low price - check it out if you're looking for something sub $60, otherwise there are definitely better ones out there.

I need a mouse in terms of: 
 
- <4000dpi 
- gold usb (if that helps) 
- 1ms response time 
 
I know mamba razer covers all that, but is there any mouse better than the razer mamba (possibly cheaper too?)

logitech g500 i own one
-upgraded g5
- 5700dpi
-great scroll wheel 
-weights
-glides great
-10 buttons
-$80

Steelseries makes very good mice.  Many of their mice are priced very reasonably too.  I'll buy the kinzu or the xai as my next gaming mouse.  Also, my current mouse is the Logitech G9.  It's okay, and the tracking is defiantly quite good.  I have fairly large hands though, so I would prefer something a bit larger, particularly beneath the palm.  Really, there is no right answer to your question.  Go to a store that sells gaming mice, if you can, and try to get your hands on as many mice as possible, to see what shape you prefer.
 
Here are a couple of articles comparing mice:
 http://www.tomsguide.com/us/gaming-mouse-performance,review-1472.html 

 http://gizmodo.com/387766/razer-vs-steelseries-pc-gaming-gear-battlemodo-which-one-made-me-a-better-gamer
 
Good luck!

you can have it anywhere from 200-5700
 
really its like 7 if you dont count the wheel and dpi buttons

I looked at the razer mamba and it's so expensive because it can be wired or wireless.
 
Don't forget a good mouse pad with whichever mouse you get. i recommend something from steelseries. They also make mice.

• 5600DPI Razer Precision™ 3.5G Laser sensor (the 3.5 laser is important, does the logitech have it?)
• 1000Hz Ultrapolling™ / 1ms response rate
• Up to 200 inches per second*/ 50g acceleration
• Approximate size: 128mm x 70mm x 42.5mm    

Take a look at steelseries mice like jico said. I haven't tried them but they are supposed to be really good.

I got a Logitech G500 as well.  It's very good in Quake Live.  5700 DPI, 1ms report rate.  That button behind the scroll wheel toggles hyper scrolling which lets the scroll wheel spin freely, with bearings or something because it can spin for a long time with one flick.  It has a good feel, better than the G5 in my opinion because it dips inward more for your thumb making it even more comfortable, but other than that they feel the same.  And just like the G5, it also lets you change how much the mouse weighs with a tray and some weights that go in the mouse.

I use a shitty 3-button Microsoft optical, and have no problems with it. I don't really understand the benefit of an expensive gaming mouse. Are they mainly for super-twitch based shooting or what?

What about razor imperator, 5600 dpi.

i've had two razors and they were good, but my logitech G9 takes the fuckin cake.

That razer imperator is really nice looking. I'm tempted to get one to see how it compares to my g500.
 
you can adjust the side buttons :O

Logitech G5 is still the best, and I've used most mice out there during my travels through the world of Competitive CSS

G5 or the Deathadder, both are fantastic.

" I use a shitty 3-button Microsoft optical, and have no problems with it. I don't really understand the benefit of an expensive gaming mouse. Are they mainly for super-twitch based shooting or what? "

Keep in mind that they make mice for different purposes.
 
If you are into RPGs and RTSes, this a pretty good mouse for that.
 
 http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga/
 
@FrankCanada97 said:

" @emkeighcameron said:

" I use a shitty 3-button Microsoft optical, and have no problems with it. I don't really understand the benefit of an expensive gaming mouse. Are they mainly for super-twitch based shooting or what? "

I am wondering this too, I have only used the mouse that came with my PC and I fare pretty well when playing my games. "

I am using a Razer pretty good and light weighted 

Paying 80 dollars for a gaming mouse is pure stupidity. I recently looked into this myself (bought a new mouse last week when my MX518 finally died). 
 
I'll break it down for you: 
 
-You do not need 4000 dpi. That's ludicrous, and you are fooling yourself if you think you can tell the difference at that point. 
-Gold plated USB connectors are not necessary, although I believe my MX518 might have lasted longer if it had one. 
-Wireless is only going to cause latency if you had multiple controllers/devices connected to the same receiver, which isn't likely the case with a mouse unless it's Bluetooth. 
 
 MX518: Cheap as hell, claw grip, quite comfortable, fairly low DPI by todays standards (but still totally fine for games- I used it recently in a Quake tournament and placed well against players with better mice). 
G5/G500/G9: More expensive, upgraded versions of the MX518. Includes weights, which can be nice, although you aren't going to be switching out weights regularly- most people stick with 1 preferred weight. Buy this if you REALLY prefer claw grip/the shape of these mice, and can pay the premium for the extra perks. 
Razer Lachesis- Not recommended. Quite expensive, too light for my taste, and the huge right side buttons get in the way. Only get this if you really need ambidextrous AND better DPI, etc than the Copperhead can offer, and are REALLY into the palm grip (this mouse is FLAT). 
Razer Deathadder- Closer to the MX518, nice right-handed, and the 3800 DPI photo-sensor is excellent. My personal pick. It's also only 40 bucks (on Amazon). The newest iteration competes very well.
Imperator- Extra-claw-grippy. Expensive.  
Mamba- Only get if you really need wireless- all the other features can be found elsewhere for cheaper (G9, etc)

Logitech or Razer.
 
I personally use the ibuypower one, because I'm a cheap bastard.

I'd go for a Deathadder, Intellipoint 3.0 or a steelseries Ikari.

USB is USB. Ignore the gimmicky bullshit.
 
Wireless is fine. Why wouldn't it be? There is no benefit to a wired mouse. There might have been back in the late 90s, when the wireless technology used for peripherals was a little less reliable and there was potential for some input lag - but that is no longer the case and hasn't been the case for most of the last decade.
 
Razer is good and more or less reasonably priced - but there's nothing particularly amazing about them over other mice. Logitech optical or laser wireless mice are great. Razer are great. Microsoft even makes some great mice. Don't get too wrapped up in "it's infinity billion DPI!" or "it has moveable weights that you can adjust to change the balance of your mouse!" or any other bullshit. More important than anything else, make sure it feels good in your hand.

" I have a Logitech G9.   It's nifty.       It works.   "

" http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Gaming+Mouse+G500&x=15&y=26   Again thanks for the informative advice. As the link shows I'm going with the Logitech G500. I just do not know what the difference is from #1 and #3 on that amazon list. Anyone know? "

Logitec G series. Love 'em. Logitec's mice feel like first party gamepads for consoles - just for PC gaming.
 
Great stuff.

I've really been satisfied with my Logitech MX 518 for five years. It's still top quality and the only worn things are the footpads and the logo where my hand goes. I've been considering buying a Razer, but decide not to because what I really need is a shitty wireless mouse so I don't have to string a USB cable across the room when I watch Hulu from bed. The MX 518 is relaly cheap now, and was totally worth the $70 I paid when it was new. At $25 or $30 today it is a steal.
 
edit: on 1600 dpi being maxium: shitty. I could totally go for 3200 dpi after this long using 1600. But for most non hardcore gaming mouse users, 1600 will be more than plenty. Buttons and DPI are what make me think I want a Razer.
 
Are there many with the thumb buttons arranged in a cross pattern like face buttons on a controller? Or god forbid include an analog nub (like old laptops used instead of a touchpad) under the thumb? Aside from changeable DPI and weights and shit, mice haven't gone anywhere in a long time.
 
How about non microsoft mice with a similar scroll wheel as the explorers?

" @demontium said:

" http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Gaming+Mouse+G500&x=15&y=26   Again thanks for the informative advice. As the link shows I'm going with the Logitech G500. I just do not know what the difference is from #1 and #3 on that amazon list. Anyone know? "

Mystifies me why you would pay 15 bucks more (over a Deathadder) for a G500. To each his own I guess. "  

Just get anything Logitech or Razer that fits your preferences for buttons, shape, etc.

" @torus said:

" @demontium said:

" http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Gaming+Mouse+G500&x=15&y=26   Again thanks for the informative advice. As the link shows I'm going with the Logitech G500. I just do not know what the difference is from #1 and #3 on that amazon list. Anyone know? "

Mystifies me why you would pay 15 bucks more (over a Deathadder) for a G500. To each his own I guess. "  

Button count, slider for the dpi adjustment. The Razer has slightly better specs, but not enough to ignore more buttons that I definitely will use. I play all sorts of games too.  Unless I am missing something, enlighten me. I am not here to play favorites just trying to find the best mouse.  Anyone know the difference between those two Mice on amazon. They are both Logitech G500 but one is more expensive; is it any different? "

well, logitech is a good brand, try one of those

Just get a Logitech G5. It's not too expensive, and it still is one of the best available in the market.

" @demontium said:

" @torus said:

" @demontium said:

" http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Gaming+Mouse+G500&x=15&y=26   Again thanks for the informative advice. As the link shows I'm going with the Logitech G500. I just do not know what the difference is from #1 and #3 on that amazon list. Anyone know? "

Mystifies me why you would pay 15 bucks more (over a Deathadder) for a G500. To each his own I guess. "  

Button count, slider for the dpi adjustment. The Razer has slightly better specs, but not enough to ignore more buttons that I definitely will use. I play all sorts of games too.  Unless I am missing something, enlighten me. I am not here to play favorites just trying to find the best mouse.  Anyone know the difference between those two Mice on amazon. They are both Logitech G500 but one is more expensive; is it any different? "

I've been playing shooters competitively for quite a while. The slider is a gimmick, especially since the Deathadder uses software sensitivity adjustment (you hold one of the buttons down and scroll, at it changes your sens to a high degree of granularity). Simply put, the Deathadder is more comfortable in my view, and the button press action is much nicer. I suppose if you really need two extra buttons, then yes, get the G500, but I don't think it's that big a deal. I also love the scroll wheel on my Razer much more than the one on my Logitech.   There is no difference between the two on the Amazon page as far as I can tell, it's just been listed twice. "