The PC (Personal Computer) is a highly configurable and upgradable gaming platform that, among home systems, sports the widest variety of control methods, largest library of games, and cutting edge graphics and sound capabilities.
As someone that has their PC hooked up to their 40 inch LCD and play with a wireless KBM and controller setup, the Metro start screen is kind of perfect for a couch PC. I have all my games, music, video, google chrome, email, twitter, weather and facebook all on the start screen with live tiles. It gives me an incredible amount of information as soon as windows starts. Games seem to launch faster as well. Worth the 40 dollar upgrade for a couch gamer.
@mtcantor: Yea, nothing seemed terrible since you could put just about anything into the metro space. I didn't try installing any games though. I still have it on this PC, but... eh hassle. I did get a much higher score in all categories of the windows experience index though.
I'm getting a new Desktop PC, and while it is Windows 7 is does come with a free Windows 8 upgrade. I'm thinking about keeping the desktop on 7 and putting 8 on my laptop.
As someone that has their PC hooked up to their 40 inch LCD and play with a wireless KBM and controller setup, the Metro start screen is kind of perfect for a couch PC. I have all my games, music, video, google chrome, email, twitter, weather and facebook all on the start screen with live tiles. It gives me an incredible amount of information as soon as windows starts. Games seem to launch faster as well. Worth the 40 dollar upgrade for a couch gamer.
My setup is pretty much the same. Good to hear that Windows 8 seems to complement this.
I'm still undecided until I hear more from users, but I am definitely leaning towards upgrading to Windows 8. Especially since I'm looking into getting the Surface and a Windows 8 phone.
Eh. I could get used to it, and will probably have to, but the Xbox has severely lowered my opinion of Metro. It does work a lot better with a mouse and keyboard, though.
I don't really feel like it's gonna be worth the hassle of installing it right now. I'm gonna wait until DX12 cards and games start coming out which could be a matter of years, so whatever.
@Sackmanjones: Yep from Windows 7, not sure if this applies for XP and Vista though.
@BigDaddy81: After my 3GS broke last month I got a WP7, its really great I love the live tiles and the customization they are bringing with WP8 and 7.8, plus been playing way more games than I did on iPhone just because of achievements ran through Plants vs Zombies in a day of watching olympics\phone gaming, where as I played a couple of levels on iPhone, weird how achievements have sunken into my gaming mentality now.
@believer258: Xbox isnt metro though, well it looks like it but doesn't have the app marketplace and live tiles which makes it worthwhile.
@Maginnovision: Chrome dude! IE is and always will be junk!
@MikkaQ: Why? DX11 is great and games haven't used it to its full potential yet. But yeah I mainly just like it for the couch PC experience. Just waiting for Xbox controller so I can press the Xbox button to turn on my PC and can go through my media without touching my wireless KBM.
Passing on W8. This is an OS that no one asked for, but MS felt that they needed to make because Apple is jettisoning the traditional desktop OS. There's not even any performance increase, none at all from all the benchmark tests. No wonder they say that W7 will be the new XP. W7 is just fine for me.
Been running Windows 8 here for 2 days and on a clean install. Been reinstalling all my games again minus the steam games (thank you steam for making it easy :) ) and darksiders 2 is running great on this laptop and out to my 50" tv. Been very happy with the OS , very stable and easy. The "metro" design I don't get into when gaming and I stay on the desktop tile.
Been happy and will be worth the 40 for those that want the quick access to news and stuff. Nothing wrong at all with the os and at the price , it will be a great deal for those that want to check it out.
Passing on W8. This is an OS that no one asked for, but MS felt that they needed to make because Apple is jettisoning the traditional desktop OS. There's not even any performance increase, none at all from all the benchmark tests. No wonder they say that W7 will be the new XP. W7 is just fine for me.
I don't think any consumer really "asked" for any new OS update. It's simply Microsoft learning where trends are leading and making good decisions (business wise). While Windows 7 is still a near-perfect platform in my opinion. I think Windows 8 is more of a "style" upgrade than it is for technical progress. People that compare W7 to XP are stripping down the entire argument to only referring to those who didn't upgrade. Windows 8 will not be a big flop like Vista and require technical geniuses to tweak into productivity. Let's not forget that releasing it for $40 at least shows that Microsoft has the foresight to understand the "upgrade" isn't as substantial as XP -> Vista -> Windows7 and allow their price to reflect that.
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
I'm getting a new Desktop PC, and while it is Windows 7 is does come with a free Windows 8 upgrade. I'm thinking about keeping the desktop on 7 and putting 8 on my laptop.
IF you have Windows 8, use it. It's a better, faster performing Windows 7.
@pornstorestiffi said:
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
It's called using the computer normally. I never see it. Never. Because I'm not an idiot, all of my apps are available through the taskbar. The only time I see Metro is when I go out of my way to seek it, or when I need to use the search, which A) is never and B) is a much better search than previously was available through the start menu. Windows 8 is also a bit more efficient, particularly with RAM. Metro also gives you system level notifications for calendar, messaging, email, and any app that wants to put it in. Twitter, facebook, even giantbomb feeds could notify you of new stuff no matter where you are in the OS.
I'm getting a new Desktop PC, and while it is Windows 7 is does come with a free Windows 8 upgrade. I'm thinking about keeping the desktop on 7 and putting 8 on my laptop.
IF you have Windows 8, use it. It's a better, faster performing Windows 7.
@pornstorestiffi said:
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
It's called using the computer normally. I never see it. Never. Because I'm not an idiot, all of my apps are available through the taskbar. The only time I see Metro is when I go out of my way to seek it, or when I need to use the search, which A) is never and B) is a much better search than previously was available through the start menu. Windows 8 is also a bit more efficient, particularly with RAM. Metro also gives you system level notifications for calendar, messaging, email, and any app that wants to put it in. Twitter, facebook, even giantbomb feeds could notify you of new stuff no matter where you are in the OS.
I'm somewhat confused as to what the whole "using a computer normally" means. You do know that Microsoft has disabled the boot straight to desktop feature in the retail release right? (unless i'm confused) It's fine that you like it, i'm not butt hurt over that at all. I just don't want to stare at Metro for one second. I'm the kind of guy who dicks around behind the scenes alle the time, i'm also the kind of guy who never turned his 360 on after NXE arrived.
I'm a weirdo, and i don't need to be lectured on how to use a computer, i have been using them since the mid to late 80's, so yeah clearly i'm an idiot, and don't know shit about shit. I know what i want in a OS, and its not a user friendly fisherprice looking UI called Metro.
The new "Modern" start menu (Used to be Metro but MS had to change it) is so redundant on desktop PCs. I'm sticking with Windows 7. Windows 8 is clearly a tablet focused OS for Microsoft's new Surface tablet.
As another person who has their PC hooked up to their TV, I'd definitely upgrade to 8 if MS or some third party makes the Metro Star Menu Screen usable with a 360 wireless controller.
Passing on Windows 8 myself, I just dont need to change at this point, Windows 7 runs perfectly fine for me and for all my needs, i like it, and its plenty fast enough for me, just feels like Windows 8 is more for people with touch-screen monitors and such, as its basically just an upgraded version of whats actually on the Windows Phones, the layout, and colouring, the tiles and shit, its really made for touchscreen stuff in my opinion..... I dont have one, so im going to stick with Win7... just how i feel right now
I'm getting a new Desktop PC, and while it is Windows 7 is does come with a free Windows 8 upgrade. I'm thinking about keeping the desktop on 7 and putting 8 on my laptop.
IF you have Windows 8, use it. It's a better, faster performing Windows 7.
@pornstorestiffi said:
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
It's called using the computer normally. I never see it. Never. Because I'm not an idiot, all of my apps are available through the taskbar. The only time I see Metro is when I go out of my way to seek it, or when I need to use the search, which A) is never and B) is a much better search than previously was available through the start menu. Windows 8 is also a bit more efficient, particularly with RAM. Metro also gives you system level notifications for calendar, messaging, email, and any app that wants to put it in. Twitter, facebook, even giantbomb feeds could notify you of new stuff no matter where you are in the OS.
I'm somewhat confused as to what the whole "using a computer normally" means. You do know that Microsoft has disabled the boot straight to desktop feature in the retail release right? (unless i'm confused) It's fine that you like it, i'm not butt hurt over that at all. I just don't want to stare at Metro for one second. I'm the kind of guy who dicks around behind the scenes alle the time, i'm also the kind of guy who never turned his 360 on after NXE arrived.
I'm a weirdo, and i don't need to be lectured on how to use a computer, i have been using them since the mid to late 80's, so yeah clearly i'm an idiot, and don't know shit about shit. I know what i want in a OS, and its not a user friendly fisherprice looking UI called Metro.
Wait...So can you navigate metro with just an Xbox Controller? What if you select a steam short cut and it just throws up some prompt before launching. Can you get past that with a controller?
This is what troubles me the most about W8's start menu. I doubt it will ever be consistent enough to the point where I'd feel comfortable using it every day. I don't like the jumping between normal desktop and new start screen at all. I don't see third parties like Steam ever really integrating perfectly into this iteration of "metro".
I'm not particularly impressed with anything I've seen of Win8 so far and actually most of the things I've seen have put me off it a bit. I really don't like the new look of the windows (non-transparent and sharp edges), it feels like a step backwards to me. I'm gonna stick with Win7 for now but I'll probably upgrade next time I build a PC. What I've seen of Win8 has made me lean even more towards using my macbook as my primary computer and only using the PC for games and other things that require windows.
Eh. I could get used to it, and will probably have to, but the Xbox has severely lowered my opinion of Metro. It does work a lot better with a mouse and keyboard, though.
I can totally understand people liking and disliking the Metro interface (different folks and strokes and all of that) but I have to say Metro in Windows 8 is not the mess that the XBox's Metro-styled interface would lead people to believe.
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
@RIDEBIRD: @Sackmanjones: @JoeyRavn: Windows 8 upgrade edition, for $40 (limited time, I think), will be available when Windows 8 reaches general availability in October. You will be able to upgrade XP, Vista or 7 to Windows 8.
Eh. I could get used to it, and will probably have to, but the Xbox has severely lowered my opinion of Metro. It does work a lot better with a mouse and keyboard, though.
I can totally understand people liking and disliking the Metro interface (different folks and strokes and all of that) but I have to say Metro in Windows 8 is not the mess that the XBox's Metro-styled interface would lead people to believe.
I tried the Windows 8 Beta, so I know it's a hell of a lot better than the messy pile of shit that is the Xbox dashboard now, but the whole Metro style interface still left a bad taste in my mouth when using Windows 8. But, like I said, I could get used to it and it woulddn't bother me much, provided I can keep that thing clear of goddamn ads. The slightest hint of an ad and my ass is going back to Windows 7 or completely switching to Mac or Ubuntu.
The start screen is the greatest thing about Windows 8. You can put literally ANYTHING there. Also, one of my favourite things in Windows 8 is the search. Just right from start, type something and your results will pop up. Such a great way to find things instead of having to go Start-Programs-Accessories- etc, etc. You COULD just pin them though. I love it.
@pornstorestiffi said:
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
You realize that right when it starts up, you can just click Desktop and you're right there? It takes MAYBE 1/4 of a second to click on the icon. In fact, since Windows 8 has a much faster boot time, you'll be getting to your desktop faster anyway. I don't understand how people see Metro as something which will "prevent" them from going to their desktop. Make it a huge tile and then you're sure not to miss on your first click...
I'm sure MS or someone else will release something to bypass the Start Screen on boot anyway. It's their way of catering to the completely unreasonable people out there.
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
Seems useful to me. ;)
You got me there buddy. When will you work tour duty end man, miss our daily rambles.
The start screen is the greatest thing about Windows 8. You can put literally ANYTHING there. Also, one of my favourite things in Windows 8 is the search. Just right from start, type something and your results will pop up. Such a great way to find things instead of having to go Start-Programs-Accessories- etc, etc. You COULD just pin them though. I love it.
@pornstorestiffi said:
Until Microsoft or a third party developer makes it possible to bypass Metro and boot straight to desktop, i will not touch it. Windows 7 has all i need, Metro is about as useful to me as a knife and fork is useful to a dog.
You realize that right when it starts up, you can just click Desktop and you're right there?
I'm sure MS or someone else will release something to bypass the Start Screen on boot anyway. It's their way of catering to the completely unreasonable people out there.
I do yes. Unreasonable to you maybe.
@Hunkulese: No its not called Metro anymore, but people still call it that. Cause it's lingered for so long. And whatever the name, doesn't change my opinion about it. I don't like it, but i understand why other people might like it. Doesn't seem to work the other way around.
Even if there's no significant performance benefit, I'll have to learn the ins and outs of the OS as all new PC we sell will start shipping with W8 soon enough.
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