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i really want a new mac, but i also want an alienware for gaming.

Topic started by RedSox8933 on Nov. 11, 2008. Last post by albaker 3 weeks, 4 days ago.
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I have a pretty old mac, so i want to upgrade. but the problem is i want an alienware for gaming too, but i hate Vista. is vista really that bad?

I have a pretty old mac, so i want to upgrade. but the problem is i want an alienware for gaming too, but i hate Vista. is vista really that bad?

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alienware all the way.

alienware all the way.

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buy a new macbook pro, and install windows xp with bootcamp (a new application on all macs). i do it, i play crysis on my macbook pro. not the highest settings but its works!

buy a new macbook pro, and install windows xp with bootcamp (a new application on all macs). i do it, i play crysis on my macbook pro. not the highest settings but its works!

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Build you own computer for gaming and get a cheap laptop for basic stuff.  This is your best cost effective solution.  However if you have a lot of extra cash then go ahead and buy a Macbook and an alienware.   Vista isn't that bad anymore now that the service pack is out and most of the bugs have been delt with.

Build you own computer for gaming and get a cheap laptop for basic stuff.  This is your best cost effective solution.  However if you have a lot of extra cash then go ahead and buy a Macbook and an alienware.   Vista isn't that bad anymore now that the service pack is out and most of the bugs have been delt with.

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Levio91 said:

"alienware all the way."
YES.

Levio91 said:
"alienware all the way."
YES.

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Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced.

Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced.

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SpikeSpiegel said:

"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? 

SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? 

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GioVANNI said:

"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money.

GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money.

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Gunner said:

"GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money."
Alright... But that doesn't change the fact that Alienwares>Macs.

Gunner said:
"GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money."
Alright... But that doesn't change the fact that Alienwares>Macs.

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Gunner said:

"GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money."

no, more like just go to newegg and search for a cheap pc.  Building a pc is NOT easy.  Lots of pc gamers try to pass it off as easy, but it really isn't. 
most of these pcs are actually cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2032280010%204021%201141828689&name=Core%202%20Quad

When they make that $500 pc (not prebuilt) they're missing so many components that it's not even funny... not to count a moniter which can cost $300

Gunner said:
"GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money."

no, more like just go to newegg and search for a cheap pc.  Building a pc is NOT easy.  Lots of pc gamers try to pass it off as easy, but it really isn't. 
most of these pcs are actually cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2032280010%204021%201141828689&name=Core%202%20Quad

When they make that $500 pc (not prebuilt) they're missing so many components that it's not even funny... not to count a moniter which can cost $300

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Alienware is trash. Just a bunch of ripoff garbage that you cant upgrade or wont have the knowledge to upgrade when you want to.

Just watch a few videos and browse some PC hardware forums, building a PC is easy as hell, and MUCH cheaper than buying from the assholes at Alienware. If you dont want to build your own, then I strongly suggest www.avadirect.com - they do fantastic builds for much cheaper than other sites like Alienware, and IBuyPower (who are also trash)

Alienware is trash. Just a bunch of ripoff garbage that you cant upgrade or wont have the knowledge to upgrade when you want to.

Just watch a few videos and browse some PC hardware forums, building a PC is easy as hell, and MUCH cheaper than buying from the assholes at Alienware. If you dont want to build your own, then I strongly suggest www.avadirect.com - they do fantastic builds for much cheaper than other sites like Alienware, and IBuyPower (who are also trash)

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SmugDarkLoser said:

"Gunner said:
"GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money."

no, more like just go to newegg and search for a cheap pc.  Building a pc is NOT easy.  Lots of pc gamers try to pass it off as easy, but it really isn't. 
most of these pcs are actually cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2032280010%204021%201141828689&name=Core%202%20Quad

When they make that $500 pc (not prebuilt) they're missing so many components that it's not even funny... not to count a moniter which can cost $300"
You sir, dont know jack shit, to put it roughly. If you can build a fucking Lego set, you can build a PC. It's so easy these days, just a bunch of snapping pieces into place and installing an OS.

SmugDarkLoser said:
"Gunner said:
"GioVANNI said:
"SpikeSpiegel said:
"Alienware? That stuff is so overpriced."
And a Mac isn't? "
But you can build a machine yourself with the quality of alienware for alot less.. You cant build a mac at all.

 take 4 hours of your spare time to go online and read guides on how to build a computer. Then buy the parts yourself and build it yourself and you will save loads of money."

no, more like just go to newegg and search for a cheap pc.  Building a pc is NOT easy.  Lots of pc gamers try to pass it off as easy, but it really isn't. 
most of these pcs are actually cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2032280010%204021%201141828689&name=Core%202%20Quad

When they make that $500 pc (not prebuilt) they're missing so many components that it's not even funny... not to count a moniter which can cost $300"
You sir, dont know jack shit, to put it roughly. If you can build a fucking Lego set, you can build a PC. It's so easy these days, just a bunch of snapping pieces into place and installing an OS.

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like i said, if you like mac and gaming, buy a macbook pro and install xp on it

like i said, if you like mac and gaming, buy a macbook pro and install xp on it

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TTheGTAvaccine said

You sir, dont know jack shit, to put it roughly. If you can build a fucking Lego set, you can build a PC. It's so easy these days, just a bunch of snapping pieces into place and installing an OS."
Tis true, building a desktop is easy, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it for a long-term reliable desktop. You (generally) don't get the quality and service you receive when buying and assembling the parts yourself, rather than purchasing from a company, eg. Dell or its subsidiary Alienware.

Personally I suggest shelling out a few extra dollars for a PC Desktop from Dell / Alienware with a warranty, trust me you'll feel a lot better later on. Vista works great, there is just a lot of negative media on it because everyone... well hates Microsoft.

Anyway, hope that helped.

TTheGTAvaccine said
You sir, dont know jack shit, to put it roughly. If you can build a fucking Lego set, you can build a PC. It's so easy these days, just a bunch of snapping pieces into place and installing an OS."
Tis true, building a desktop is easy, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it for a long-term reliable desktop. You (generally) don't get the quality and service you receive when buying and assembling the parts yourself, rather than purchasing from a company, eg. Dell or its subsidiary Alienware.

Personally I suggest shelling out a few extra dollars for a PC Desktop from Dell / Alienware with a warranty, trust me you'll feel a lot better later on. Vista works great, there is just a lot of negative media on it because everyone... well hates Microsoft.

Anyway, hope that helped.

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btw, i don't know if this is true or not, but this site runs extremely well on my mac and i felt like it may have something to do with it being created using macs. probably just a smooth running site regardless though

btw, i don't know if this is true or not, but this site runs extremely well on my mac and i felt like it may have something to do with it being created using macs. probably just a smooth running site regardless though

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TiTaNsFaN690 said:

"TTheGTAvaccine said
You sir, dont know jack shit, to put it roughly. If you can build a fucking Lego set, you can build a PC. It's so easy these days, just a bunch of snapping pieces into place and installing an OS."
Tis true, building a desktop is easy, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it for a long-term reliable desktop. You (generally) don't get the quality and service you receive when buying and assembling the parts yourself, rather than purchasing from a company, eg. Dell or its subsidiary Alienware.

Personally I suggest shelling out a few extra dollars for a PC Desktop from Dell / Alienware with a warranty, trust me you'll feel a lot better later on. Vista works great, there is just a lot of negative media on it because everyone... well hates Microsoft.

Anyway, hope that helped."
That's true to an extent, but a lot of individual parts and pieces carry with them fantastic warranties ranging from 1 year to lifetime, and even double lifetime in some cases. Building a PC is the way to go.

TiTaNsFaN690 said:
"TTheGTAvaccine said
You sir, dont know jack shit, to put it roughly. If you can build a fucking Lego set, you can build a PC. It's so easy these days, just a bunch of snapping pieces into place and installing an OS."
Tis true, building a desktop is easy, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it for a long-term reliable desktop. You (generally) don't get the quality and service you receive when buying and assembling the parts yourself, rather than purchasing from a company, eg. Dell or its subsidiary Alienware.

Personally I suggest shelling out a few extra dollars for a PC Desktop from Dell / Alienware with a warranty, trust me you'll feel a lot better later on. Vista works great, there is just a lot of negative media on it because everyone... well hates Microsoft.

Anyway, hope that helped."
That's true to an extent, but a lot of individual parts and pieces carry with them fantastic warranties ranging from 1 year to lifetime, and even double lifetime in some cases. Building a PC is the way to go.

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Build your own PC, don't waste your money on an Alienware pc..

Build your own PC, don't waste your money on an Alienware pc..

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Buy parts on newegg. Best price in my opinion.

Buy parts on newegg. Best price in my opinion.

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Yit said:

"Buy parts on newegg. Best price in my opinion."
Yeah if you're going to build it yourself Newegg is probably the best place to go. If you're shy about internet shopping, you can your local Fry's Electronics (assuming you live in a large city with one nearby) or a similar large computer parts hub.

TheGTAvaccine said:
That's true to an extent, but a lot of individual parts and pieces carry with them fantastic warranties ranging from 1 year to lifetime, and even double lifetime in some cases. Building a PC is the way to go."
True enough. The main thing I would say though is that home-built desktops are far more prone to hardware issues, some of which can be resolved easily and some... like say, your motherboard short-circuiting, are a massive pain to resolve. Building my own when I was in high school was a great experience (as well as all the mistakes I made haha) but I don't see myself ever doing that again simply for the hassles in entails if you're unlucky.

Best of luck to the OP though.

Yit said:
"Buy parts on newegg. Best price in my opinion."
Yeah if you're going to build it yourself Newegg is probably the best place to go. If you're shy about internet shopping, you can your local Fry's Electronics (assuming you live in a large city with one nearby) or a similar large computer parts hub.

TheGTAvaccine said:
That's true to an extent, but a lot of individual parts and pieces carry with them fantastic warranties ranging from 1 year to lifetime, and even double lifetime in some cases. Building a PC is the way to go."
True enough. The main thing I would say though is that home-built desktops are far more prone to hardware issues, some of which can be resolved easily and some... like say, your motherboard short-circuiting, are a massive pain to resolve. Building my own when I was in high school was a great experience (as well as all the mistakes I made haha) but I don't see myself ever doing that again simply for the hassles in entails if you're unlucky.

Best of luck to the OP though.

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just built a pc.  cost £900 and was super easy to put together.  you just have to make sure you connect all the correct cables into their correct places.  Spec: oc'd to 3.6ghz dual core, 4gb ram, 1TB Sata II HDD, BFG nvidia 260GT OC (and then oc'd again  :) ) o, and its running on xp. not bothering with vista. 

as TheGTAvaccine said....alot like lego.   Sorting out the bios is the only thing i got a friend to help me with.  Once youve finished you can also be proud of your creation!  you dont get that satisfaction by just buying a prebuilt desktop.

just built a pc.  cost £900 and was super easy to put together.  you just have to make sure you connect all the correct cables into their correct places.  Spec: oc'd to 3.6ghz dual core, 4gb ram, 1TB Sata II HDD, BFG nvidia 260GT OC (and then oc'd again  :) ) o, and its running on xp. not bothering with vista. 

as TheGTAvaccine said....alot like lego.   Sorting out the bios is the only thing i got a friend to help me with.  Once youve finished you can also be proud of your creation!  you dont get that satisfaction by just buying a prebuilt desktop.

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If you are seduced by the Mac sleekness, the new Macbook Pros really are competent gaming machines, and it's easy to put windows on them.

If you are seduced by the Mac sleekness, the new Macbook Pros really are competent gaming machines, and it's easy to put windows on them.

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Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself.

Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself.

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Levio91 said:

"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
facepalm

Levio91 said:
"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
facepalm

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Levio91 said:

"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
Alienware probably does pay less for their parts. But then they tack a ridiculous price on to that for labor and just pure profit. And making money off of ignoramuses like you. I could do a piece-by-piece comparison if you really need convincing.

Levio91 said:
"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
Alienware probably does pay less for their parts. But then they tack a ridiculous price on to that for labor and just pure profit. And making money off of ignoramuses like you. I could do a piece-by-piece comparison if you really need convincing.

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TwoOneFive said:

"like i said, if you like mac and gaming, buy a macbook pro and install xp on it"
You have it ass-backwards, captain. Build yourself a sick rig and hackintosh that shit up.

TwoOneFive said:
"like i said, if you like mac and gaming, buy a macbook pro and install xp on it"
You have it ass-backwards, captain. Build yourself a sick rig and hackintosh that shit up.

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Levio91 said:

"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
Lol, I just had a look on the alienware site and i didn't even need to compare individual components to see their PCs are overpriced. I can see how they would be tempting to someone who has shit loads of money and doesnt want/know how to build computers, they look really nice

Levio91 said:
"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
Lol, I just had a look on the alienware site and i didn't even need to compare individual components to see their PCs are overpriced. I can see how they would be tempting to someone who has shit loads of money and doesnt want/know how to build computers, they look really nice

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Black_Raven said:

"Levio91 said:
"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
Lol, I just had a look on the alienware site and i didn't even need to compare individual components to see their PCs are overpriced. I can see how they would be tempting to someone who has shit loads of money and doesnt want/know how to build computers, they look really nice"

But he's actually right.
You know why building a pc looks so much cheaper?  Because most people just say - Ram, OS, Graphics Card, CPU.
Yea, right.

In general, Alienware is about on par with building it yourself.
Buying a package from newegg is the cheapest you're going to find it.

Now seriously- just think about it, everything is so much cheaper to buy as a package than individual parts, why is a pc an exception all of a sudden?

I'd personally look for a pre-built hp (what I got). 

Imo, the real draw of an Alineware computer is its looks.  Like seriously, they look so freaking cool.  if you're willing to pay about $200 more than what the newegg option is, then go for it.

Black_Raven said:
"Levio91 said:
"Only retards build there own computers... Do you honestly think your paying the same price for a video card that alienware pays? If you add up the cost of everything in a new alienware and then go to newegg it would cost more to build it yourself."
Lol, I just had a look on the alienware site and i didn't even need to compare individual components to see their PCs are overpriced. I can see how they would be tempting to someone who has shit loads of money and doesnt want/know how to build computers, they look really nice"

But he's actually right.
You know why building a pc looks so much cheaper?  Because most people just say - Ram, OS, Graphics Card, CPU.
Yea, right.

In general, Alienware is about on par with building it yourself.
Buying a package from newegg is the cheapest you're going to find it.

Now seriously- just think about it, everything is so much cheaper to buy as a package than individual parts, why is a pc an exception all of a sudden?

I'd personally look for a pre-built hp (what I got). 

Imo, the real draw of an Alineware computer is its looks.  Like seriously, they look so freaking cool.  if you're willing to pay about $200 more than what the newegg option is, then go for it.

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Any pre-built is a rip-off man, especially Macs and there overrated OS.

Any pre-built is a rip-off man, especially Macs and there overrated OS.

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You know, you could always get a mac and then get a 360.  That way you'll be able to play the Blizzard must haves (wow, starcraft, diablo) and then you can get pretty much everything on the 360 (the 360 pretty much gets all the pc games).  That is unless you're into RTSs and more niche pc titles.
All of Valve's stuff comes to the 360.  And despite what people say, well going by the OB and L4D, it's exactly the same crap

Then again, I'm not familiar with pricing on Macs, so I'm not sure how it works out (but either way you want a mac and the 360 is a just as good alternative in getting pc games and then it has its own set)



You know, you could always get a mac and then get a 360.  That way you'll be able to play the Blizzard must haves (wow, starcraft, diablo) and then you can get pretty much everything on the 360 (the 360 pretty much gets all the pc games).  That is unless you're into RTSs and more niche pc titles.
All of Valve's stuff comes to the 360.  And despite what people say, well going by the OB and L4D, it's exactly the same crap

Then again, I'm not familiar with pricing on Macs, so I'm not sure how it works out (but either way you want a mac and the 360 is a just as good alternative in getting pc games and then it has its own set)

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SmugDarkLoser said:

"^ Stop talking about stuff you barely understand!
I dare you to find me a pc cheaper than this (if I didn't buy one somewhat recently id hop on it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229056
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lmfao, don't even get my started, the motherboard is shit (doesn't even have a brand) the video card is shit (again, doesn't show a brand), doesn't even show RAM timings, could be shitty 40 dollar value select ram for all i know, processor is outdated (65nm is out, 45nm is in). Please just stop talking because its clear you dont know what your talking about.

SmugDarkLoser said:
"^ Stop talking about stuff you barely understand!
I dare you to find me a pc cheaper than this (if I didn't buy one somewhat recently id hop on it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229056
"
lmfao, don't even get my started, the motherboard is shit (doesn't even have a brand) the video card is shit (again, doesn't show a brand), doesn't even show RAM timings, could be shitty 40 dollar value select ram for all i know, processor is outdated (65nm is out, 45nm is in). Please just stop talking because its clear you dont know what your talking about.