TheOGVandalvideo said:
"HitNRun said:
Which is the problem. Aside from one or two games, PC gaming is in the toilet. Those "casual games" that are so last year are worth a lot of money as a whole (more like a horde), but very little individually. WoW is a blockbuster, but that's just one company getting that dough, and it came out almost four years ago."
There are statistics out there that directly contrast everything you just said. According to the PCGA, once you include digital distribution, the PC grossed 3billion in the year 2007. In contrast, consoles grossed 5 billion (all combined) last year. In other words, comparatively speaking, the PC is the single highest grossing platform in the industry. Not to mention it grew nearly 48% from the year 2006. While PC gaming is still down from what it was in 2004, it has had three consecutive years of growth."
What I said was that while PC gaming might have big sales numbers when you put everything in one giant statistical pot, that doesn't mean it's doing OK as an industry. You say that, according to the PCGA, PC games are worth 3 bn a year. But if you take out JUST
WoW (1 - 1.5 bn/yr) and casual games that make very little money individually but are worth over
$2 bn/yr, you're left with a very, very small (apparently negative) slice of the pie in the "other" category, and that includes all other MMOs and games like Proctologist Tycoon that used to be what gamers called "casual."
Really, this isn't even arguable. It's self-evident. Any PC gamer (and I just bought my first console in 7 years) can see that comparatively few games that aren't MMOs or BigFish-esque minigames come out for the PC when compared to consoles, and extremely few if you take out the ports and still fewer if you disregard the "simultaneous releases" that have blocky, unoptimized console interfaces.
I mean, if that's the experience you're looking for and you think it's unfair to remove those numbers, then fine. But I think most people who self-identify as "gamers" would disagree that those are the games they mean when they say "this platform has a lot of great games coming out."
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TheOGVandalvideo said:
"HitNRun said:
Which is the problem. Aside from one or two games, PC gaming is in the toilet. Those "casual games" that are so last year are worth a lot of money as a whole (more like a horde), but very little individually. WoW is a blockbuster, but that's just one company getting that dough, and it came out almost four years ago."
There are statistics out there that directly contrast everything you just said. According to the PCGA, once you include digital distribution, the PC grossed 3billion in the year 2007. In contrast, consoles grossed 5 billion (all combined) last year. In other words, comparatively speaking, the PC is the single highest grossing platform in the industry. Not to mention it grew nearly 48% from the year 2006. While PC gaming is still down from what it was in 2004, it has had three consecutive years of growth."
What I said was that while PC gaming might have big sales numbers when you put everything in one giant statistical pot, that doesn't mean it's doing OK as an industry. You say that, according to the PCGA, PC games are worth 3 bn a year. But if you take out JUST
WoW (1 - 1.5 bn/yr) and casual games that make very little money individually but are worth over
$2 bn/yr, you're left with a very, very small (apparently negative) slice of the pie in the "other" category, and that includes all other MMOs and games like Proctologist Tycoon that used to be what gamers called "casual."
Really, this isn't even arguable. It's self-evident. Any PC gamer (and I just bought my first console in 7 years) can see that comparatively few games that aren't MMOs or BigFish-esque minigames come out for the PC when compared to consoles, and extremely few if you take out the ports and still fewer if you disregard the "simultaneous releases" that have blocky, unoptimized console interfaces.
I mean, if that's the experience you're looking for and you think it's unfair to remove those numbers, then fine. But I think most people who self-identify as "gamers" would disagree that those are the games they mean when they say "this platform has a lot of great games coming out."
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