Troy Baker is no longer Kanji

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#1 Edited by Uppercaseccc (116 posts) -

#2 Posted by Yummylee (22538 posts) -

I, er... I presume that's a failed attempt at embedding a tweet? Could probably do with a little more... anything here. That said, it's surprising if true that Troy Baker isn't voicing Kanji. Guy seems like the type that sticks to his roles. But then, perhaps he feels his time is now worth more than for some remix (?) of a fighting game thing.

#3 Edited by Corevi (4821 posts) -

@yummylee: Yeah a name would be nice, and Ultimax is definitely a sequel with an all new story mode that continues from where the original Arena ended.

#4 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -
#5 Posted by Uppercaseccc (116 posts) -

His name is Matt Mencer who is currently voicing Levi in the Attack on Titan dub and voiced Tygra in the 2011 Thundercats reboot where I can kinda hear a Kanji like voice but man Kanji will never be the same. Also I've tried to edit this post 3 times now and non of it is sticking so fuck it just responding

#6 Posted by BigJeffrey (5176 posts) -

wow every one getting replaced

#7 Posted by BradBrains (1171 posts) -

maybe they didnt hire them to save money. they probably arent gonna be huge sellers and troy baker is probably getting more expensive by the day. i dont like it but i can understand.

more reason then ever to let persona 4 die after these last couple games though. I dont like change!

#8 Posted by Yummylee (22538 posts) -

@fluxwavez: I believe a Nicole Karrer is Naoto's original VA. And Matthew Mercer, huh... a pretty good recast as he happens to sound an awful lot like Baker. There was a time where I thought was basically going to become the next in-line to be in every game ever since he carries that same style of voice, but he's not nearly as good of a voice actor as Baker or North. Though of course there's the possibility that he simply hasn't been given the right role to show what he's truly capable of yet... but as of now he's about on par with most anime/JRPG voice actors.

#9 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -
#10 Edited by ToTheNines (830 posts) -

um, there is only one Kanji voice. This upsets me way more than the David Hayter thing ever did.

#11 Posted by deathfury (539 posts) -

Us Chie fans already went through all of this.

#12 Posted by Uppercaseccc (116 posts) -

So apparently this isn't the first time Matt Mencer has voiced Kanji as he did it during episode 13-26 (according to wikipedia) of Persona 4 the animation so

#13 Posted by Yummylee (22538 posts) -

@fluxwavez said:

@yummylee said:

@fluxwavez: I believe a Nicole Karrer is Naoto's original VA.

No. Her VA is not known; that is fact.

lol oh... OK then.

#14 Posted by smcn (926 posts) -

Us Chie fans already went through all of this.

Never forget.

#15 Edited by Corevi (4821 posts) -

@uppercaseccc: wait so THIS was Mercer?

Suddenly everything is ok.

#16 Edited by ViciousBearMauling (1242 posts) -

Isn't that Valirie Arem girl the one who voiced the mother in P4 Animation?

  1. Naoto Shirogane's original (unknown) VA being replaced by Valerie Arem for PQ and P4AU
  2. Theodore's original VA (Travis Willingham) being replaced by Bryce Papenbrook for PQ and presumably P4AU
  3. Margaret's original VA (Michelle Ann Dunphy) being replaced by someone for PQ and P4AU
  4. Kanji Tatsumi's original VA (Troy Baker) being replaced by Matthew Mercer for PQ and P4AU

Nich Maragos of Atlus states that he is pretty sure these are all of the VA replacements for the upcoming Persona games.

Isn't that Valirie Arem girl the one who voiced the mother in P4 Animation?
Matthew Mercer did a pretty decent Kanji in the P4 Animation, so that's cool.
No Michelle Ann Dunphy is a total bummer, I gotta be honest.
Not really familiar with Theodore so I can't care too much.

#17 Edited by Zeik (2757 posts) -

I hate to say it, but I'm suddenly way less excited for this game. Teddie getting replaced was bad enough, but Kanji too? If that means I don't get to hear Troy Baker yelling at people while I'm beating them up anymore this game just isn't what I want it to be.

#18 Posted by smcn (926 posts) -

@uppercaseccc: wait so THIS was Mercer?

Suddenly everything is ok.

God damn it I love Laura Bailey.

...but not enough to get over the fact that Yu sounds identical to Adachi.

#19 Edited by Uppercaseccc (116 posts) -

@corruptedevil: according to Wikipedia ya but who knows with wikipedia man

#20 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@zeik said:

I hate to say it, but I'm suddenly way less excited for this game. Teddie getting replaced was bad enough, but Kanji too? If that means I don't get to hear Troy Baker yelling at people while I'm beating them up anymore this game just isn't as special anymore.

You will, actually. The way they handled Naoto's in-game battle VA is that most of her lines are of her original VA's from the first Persona 4 Arena, however a few new lines—alongside some of her new moves, for example—are of the new voice actor's. They will most likely operate the same way with Kanji in P4AU, so most of his in-game battle VA will still be Troy Baker's.

#21 Posted by Zeik (2757 posts) -

@zeik said:

I hate to say it, but I'm suddenly way less excited for this game. Teddie getting replaced was bad enough, but Kanji too? If that means I don't get to hear Troy Baker yelling at people while I'm beating them up anymore this game just isn't as special anymore.

You will, actually. The way they handled Naoto's in-game battle VA is that most of her lines are of her original VA's from the first Persona 4 Arena, however a few new lines—alongside some of her new moves, for example—are of the new voice actor's. They will most likely operate the same way with Kanji in P4AU, so most of his in-game battle VA will still be Troy Baker's.

Well, I suppose as long as the new lines aren't jarringly different I could live with that. I suppose. It still means he won't be there for the new story though, which is still a bummer.

When the game was announced there was a (not so) small part of me hoping they'd actually get Dave Wittenberg back as Teddie and everything would be perfect. I didn't even consider it might go in the other direction. :/

#22 Posted by Uppercaseccc (116 posts) -

@fluxwavez: I more worried about Q now personal when it come to Naoto because Kanjis replacement semmes fine but I don't know if the Naoto will sound like Naoto in Q guess well have to wait and see

#23 Posted by TooWalrus (13256 posts) -

I'm still hyped for these games but the news that Naoto's been replaced is god-damn heartbreaking. Her and Kanji's new voices are the reason I didn't finish the second half English dub of the anime. I'm slightly attached to those voice actors.

#24 Posted by Epidehl (325 posts) -

Yeah, Kanji was apparently changed halfway through the anime dub and I never noticed that, so it's probably fine.

Naoto though... I wouldn't be as worried if they just used Mary Elizabeth McGlynn.

#25 Posted by TheHT (11775 posts) -

#26 Edited by Benny (1955 posts) -

GET BENT

#27 Posted by SunBroZak (1344 posts) -

I'm a little bummed about Naoto, but whatever. If I can put up with the musical chairs of voice actors/actresses that is BlazBlue, I can put up with this.

#28 Posted by Irvandus (2879 posts) -

Man this is kind of a super bummer. At this point these games are barley the original cast. Like we have Yukiko but... you know Yukiko.

#29 Edited by Superkenon (1506 posts) -

As much as I like Troy Baker, Matthew Mercer is another one of the good ones. And he can sound damn similar at times. That one should be fine.

I'm more trepidatious about Naoto's VO change. I've never heard Valerie Arem in anything, so I don't know what to think there. But I really liked the old "mystery" actress. She played the part well, despite the incredibly awkward, wordy lines they write for her. Also I thought it was way awesome and appropriate that Naoto's VO is this crazy secret.

dammit who let papenbrook in here

#30 Posted by Hashbrowns (662 posts) -

Us Chie fans already went through all of this.

After watching/playing Persona 4, and hearing that Tracey Rooney wouldn't be voicing Chie in any subsequent material, I had to make a clean brake from caring about any Persona 4 related media. That's the downside to having such a pitch-perfect voice cast as P4 did: any changes whatsoever became a deal breaker for me.

#31 Posted by Dan_CiTi (3510 posts) -

That sucks. I;m more focused on P5 at this point.

#32 Posted by Solh0und (1849 posts) -

If Michelle Ruff doesn't reprise her role as Yukari, I would be hugely disappointed at this game...

#33 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@solh0und said:

If Michelle Ruff doesn't reprise her role as Yukari, I would be hugely disappointed at this game...

Again, Nich Maragos confirmed that the VA replacements that are now known should be the only ones. Specifically regarding Yukari, Michelle Ruff is reprising her role for future Persona products:

Same with Vic Mignogna who is reprising his role as Junpei Iori and Mona Marshall who is reprising her role as Ken Amada. The only Persona 3 related P3 replacement is Theodore's.

#34 Posted by JeanLuc (3608 posts) -

@solh0und said:

If Michelle Ruff doesn't reprise her role as Yukari, I would be hugely disappointed at this game...

I've watched some video of her arcade mode in English and it certainly sounded like her.

#35 Edited by Solh0und (1849 posts) -
#36 Posted by ArbitraryWater (12106 posts) -

I had no idea that Troy Baker didn't voice Kanji in P4A, but then again I think the voice direction for the english dub was... kinda not great? For as much as I love the bizarre choice of Johnny Young Bosch talking to himself (another reason why including Adachi in P4AU is so great), it wasn't enough for me to watch more than a few episodes in english.

Sorta bummed about Troy Baker being replaced (for whatever reason), but Matthew Mercer sounds pretty similar anyways. Not nearly as jarring as when they changed Chie's voice. At least they still got all of the P3 cast.

#37 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

@arbitrarywater said:

I had no idea that Troy Baker didn't voice Kanji in P4A, but then again I think the voice direction for the english dub was... kinda not great?

Troy Baker voiced Kanji in P4A.

Edit: Oh wait, sorry, I missed that you were talking about the anime. Acronyms...

#38 Posted by Corevi (4821 posts) -

@smcn: The way I think of it is that Adachi is Yu's shadow (not literally but metaphorically), which is why he sounds like him and has the same persona.

#39 Edited by Wiseblood (657 posts) -

Troy Baker still voiced Kanji in the first season of the anime. Matt Mercer did the second season because Troy was on his honeymoon at the time.

Kinda bummed about this news. Troy Baker is amazing as Kanji, and while her "pretending to be a boy" voice wasn't very convincing I thought whoever voiced Naoto did a great job.

#40 Edited by ArbitraryWater (12106 posts) -

@fluxwavez said:

@arbitrarywater said:

I had no idea that Troy Baker didn't voice Kanji in P4A, but then again I think the voice direction for the english dub was... kinda not great?

Troy Baker voiced Kanji in P4A.

Edit: Oh wait, sorry, I missed that you were talking about the anime. Acronyms...

Totally blanked that P4A could also stand for Persona 4 Arena. Thanks Japan.

@wiseblood Ohhhhhhh. Okay, that makes sense.

#41 Posted by Hunter5024 (5962 posts) -

Troy Baker will always be Kanji in my heart. Also I was the original voice of Naoto and now you all know my secret.

#42 Posted by wumbo3000 (1004 posts) -

I love Persona 4 to death, but this is just one more reason why I'm excited that Persona 5 is coming. It's time to let Persona 4 ride off into the sunset with Ultimax. If they do another Persona 4 spin-off in the future, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed.

It's important to remember that Persona 3 and Persona 4 came out only one year apart. Now, Atlus is milking those two franchises like none other.

#43 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19388 posts) -

It's time to let Persona 4 ride off into the sunset with Ultimax. If they do another Persona 4 spin-off in the future, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed.

Remember Persona 4: Dancing All Night, which would be the last of the upcoming spin-offs in both North America and Japan.

#44 Posted by RE_Player1 (7526 posts) -

The others I could deal with but Troy is a deal breaker. I'll probably sell my copy of Persona Q since I pre-ordered it at a discount.

#45 Posted by CaptainObvious (3000 posts) -

Fuck this forever

#46 Posted by TheManWithNoPlan (5983 posts) -

This just makes me anticipate a persona 5 all the more. Time to move on.

#47 Posted by YI_Orange (1172 posts) -

Unsold on this game.

#48 Posted by DeadeyeMcCoy (259 posts) -

I've had a bad feeling that exactly this was going to happen. I mean, Baker's kind of a big-shot now, right?

#49 Posted by pyrodactyl (2344 posts) -

I've had a bad feeling that exactly this was going to happen. I mean, Baker's kind of a big-shot now, right?

You might say he's currently the biggest shot in video game VA.

#50 Edited by pyrodactyl (2344 posts) -

@wumbo3000 said:

It's time to let Persona 4 ride off into the sunset with Ultimax. If they do another Persona 4 spin-off in the future, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed.

Remember Persona 4: Dancing All Night, which would be the last of the upcoming spin-offs in both North America and Japan.

If they don't resolve the Elizabeth/P3 MC and mystery villain storylines in ultimax they'll have to come back to it at some point. I've always felt like the implications for the persona universe they unveiled in P4A were way too big to resolve them in the visual novel part of a fighting game. We'll have to see at TGS if they talk more about P5.

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