Chie's new voice

#151 Edited by A_Cute_Squirtle (662 posts) -

It's pretty terrible.

#152 Posted by TooWalrus (12973 posts) -

Woah, old thread.

I stand by my statement.

#153 Posted by Rays_Gaming_Rants (52 posts) -

I dunno, I mean maybe it's because I started with Persona 4 Golden, but I like the newer Chie voice. The old voice sounded oddly...mature for a high-schooler. The newer one sounds more in line with how I would imagine a kung-fu obsessed teenage girl to sound.

#154 Edited by narujoe93 (2434 posts) -

I just started person 4: golden recently after watching a few episodes of the endurance run. I think it's great so far!

Anyway, I think Chie's new V.A. is way better than the old one, mostly because the tone and style fits the character better. She sounds like a whimsical teenage girl who's into kung fu films, while the old one sounded like a very serious women in her mid-late 30's.

#155 Posted by bigjeffrey (4157 posts) -

Some lines were hit or miss but I liked the new chie VA and yeah after putting in like 80 Hours in Persona 4 Golden i went back to persona 4 and yup she sounded like a lady.

But no one can deliver a "Aha is this our chance" better than the old VA.

#156 Edited by TooWalrus (12973 posts) -

Some lines were hit or miss but I liked the new chie VA and yeah after putting in like 80 Hours in Persona 4 Golden i went back to persona 4 and yup she sounded like a lady.

But no one can deliver a "Aha is this our chance" better than the old VA.

You mean worse. The embarrassment from that reading is probably why she retired in the first place. WE DID THIS.

#157 Posted by GooieGreen (452 posts) -

I know that I'm on the right side of history when I say that New Chie is better than old Chie. We are talking cold. hard. facts.

#158 Posted by MormonWarrior (2485 posts) -

Yeah it's not that I hate the new voice (she's just fine) but it's that I really liked the unique old voice and watched the whole ER. Teddie just sounds wrong for some reason...is it actually a new voice actor?

I just want to play Persona 4 on the computer with an emulator at this point. It looks good that way, maintains the old charm, and is still lots of fun. Some of the gameplay "fixes" in Golden actually make it less appealing to me, like the skill cards with Marie or the gardening stuff or night shopping stuff at home.

#159 Edited by Itwongo (784 posts) -

I can deal with new Chie, but old Chie is better. Well, maybe I haven't had enough exposure yet. Still playing through Arena, and I haven't played golden yet.

#160 Posted by Superkenon (1191 posts) -

@gooiegreen: I'm gonna agree with you, even as someone who played the original version, and thought Chie was the best character back then.

Nothing wrong with Old Chie, but New Chie's voice is a lot more appropriate for the level of energy she should be bringing to the table -- got that kung fu spunk. It was weird at first getting used to while playing Arena, but I think it's for the best.

#161 Edited by believer258 (11040 posts) -

I've been playing Persona 4 Golden. I liked old Chie better, no question. I hated new Chie at first but she's kind of grown on me. I don't think I'll ever actually like new Chie's voice actress, though, I'll just accept it. She's too whiny and annoying. Same lines, yeah, but old Chie was just a more pleasant person to hear and, by extension, a more fun character to be around.

As for the age thing, old Chie might have sounded like a full grown woman but new Chie sounds like she's twelve and hyped up on caffeine.

EDIT: All right, all right, I'll admit that new Chie's voice actress is probably much better at her job, but... c'mon people. Old Chie is better.

#162 Posted by BirthWild (252 posts) -

Chie Hot-onaka is more like it, OW OOW!

#163 Posted by GooieGreen (452 posts) -

@superkenon: A lot of dubbed games and shows have such terrible matches for VO; this fact seems inescapable (e.g. Laharl from Disgaea is awful). Age appropriateness bothers me more than anything else in VO and the new Chie sounds like a girl more than a woman. Works so well.

#164 Edited by SunBroZak (838 posts) -

but new Chie sounds like she's twelve and hyped up on caffeine.

That's kind of how I envision Chie anyway. Super hyper, and way too enthusiastic about steak.

#165 Posted by believer258 (11040 posts) -

@believer258 said:

but new Chie sounds like she's twelve and hyped up on caffeine.

That's kind of how I envision Chie anyway. Super hyper, and way too enthusiastic about steak.

Yeah, but... not as annoying. That was kinda the thing about Chie, she was enthusiastic and energetic without sounding annoying.

#166 Posted by SunBroZak (838 posts) -

@sunbrozak said:

@believer258 said:

but new Chie sounds like she's twelve and hyped up on caffeine.

That's kind of how I envision Chie anyway. Super hyper, and way too enthusiastic about steak.

Yeah, but... not as annoying. That was kinda the thing about Chie, she was enthusiastic and energetic without sounding annoying.

Eh, maybe. Did you pursue a relationship with her? I always went with Naoto (get bent, Kanji) so for that reason Chie's new voice may have not been as important to me.

#167 Posted by believer258 (11040 posts) -

@believer258 said:

@sunbrozak said:

@believer258 said:

but new Chie sounds like she's twelve and hyped up on caffeine.

That's kind of how I envision Chie anyway. Super hyper, and way too enthusiastic about steak.

Yeah, but... not as annoying. That was kinda the thing about Chie, she was enthusiastic and energetic without sounding annoying.

Eh, maybe. Did you pursue a relationship with her? I always went with Naoto (get bent, Kanji) so for that reason Chie's new voice may have not been as important to me.

I've seen the Endurance Run, actually. I haven't finished Persona 4. I played a few hours of it on an emulator and decided that I'd rather play it on a PS2, so I played a few more hours of it there, but school got in the way. Now I've restarted it again on my Vita. And I still think it's a lot of fun.

Chie's new voice actress is fine and I've already accepted it. It's just not quite the same.

#168 Edited by Zeik (2111 posts) -

Chie's an instance where being closer to the source material is not always better, because I actually kind of hate her original Japanese voice and grew to love her original English voice, despite a few awkward lines. New Chie is closer to the source material, but I don't think that makes it better. It gets the job done, but I definitely prefer the old one.

Teddie's new voice actually bugs me more though, mostly because I think his original voice was legitimately perfect and the new one is just an inferior copy. (My one major localization wish for P4A2 is to get old Teddie back.)

#169 Posted by Demoskinos (13853 posts) -

Being someone who is getting ready to buy a vita mostly for this game I've listened to some clips comparing the actresses and I think the new actress you know... sounds more like a teenager. I think this is less of a case of the new voice actress being worse and a case of most people who have already invested countless hours having to deal with a radical change to the thing they've grown to love. Giving my view as someone who dosn't really have anything invested into the series just yet I think the new voice is actually way better than the original.

#170 Posted by StrainedEyes (1310 posts) -

I bought and started playing Golden over the weekend, and new Chie has taken some getting used to. The voice just has a whiny quality that the original actress didn't have. It's still good voice acting, but it's just not the same.

Teddy, on the other-hand, I don't notice the change at all.

#171 Posted by flippyandnod (344 posts) -

P4G is the "new" Chie? I didn't even notice.

I guess I approve of the new Chie then, because it sure didn't bother me at all.

#172 Posted by automatontribe (186 posts) -

I know it's ridiculous but her new voice makes me not even want to play golden.

#173 Posted by Superkenon (1191 posts) -

@zeik: I think New Chie is for the better, but I'm with you on Teddie. New Teddie isn't bad per se, but he doesn't bring the same flavor to it as Old Teddie.

He sounds a bit more like an imitation, where I think New Chie was good to just do her own thing.

#174 Posted by Shishkabob (18 posts) -

I know it's ridiculous but her new voice makes me not even want to play golden.

You're right. It is ridiculous that a better voice for the best character of a game would make you not want to play it.

#175 Edited by Hunter5024 (5170 posts) -

If given the choice between an annoying voice that suits the character, and a pleasant voice that doesn't suit her as well, I would take the pleasant voice. The new one sounds kind of whiny.

#176 Edited by Zeik (2111 posts) -

@superkenon said:

@zeik: I think New Chie is for the better, but I'm with you on Teddie. New Teddie isn't bad per se, but he doesn't bring the same flavor to it as Old Teddie.

He sounds a bit more like an imitation, where I think New Chie was good to just do her own thing.

I have mixed feelings about that. On the one hand, inconsistency kind of bugs the shit out of me, so in some ways I kind of want a good sound-alike. On the other hand, if they can't pull off a sound-alike well enough then you just end up sounding like an inferior imitation, which is kind of worse, so in that case you're better off doing it a different way. Erin Fitzgerald probably made the right choice by doing her own thing, because frankly there's probably no way to completely satisfy me in this case. And hey, it's still way better than her shrill Japanese voice.

#177 Edited by automatontribe (186 posts) -

@shishkabob: I definitely don't agree that it's better. The new Chie sounds like the generic high pitched anime girl voice I've heard hundreds of times before.

#178 Posted by Bocam (3551 posts) -

@zeik said:

@superkenon said:

@zeik: I think New Chie is for the better, but I'm with you on Teddie. New Teddie isn't bad per se, but he doesn't bring the same flavor to it as Old Teddie.

He sounds a bit more like an imitation, where I think New Chie was good to just do her own thing.

I have mixed feelings about that. On the one hand, inconsistency kind of bugs the shit out of me, so in some ways I kind of want a good sound-alike. On the other hand, if they can't pull off a sound-alike well enough then you just end up sounding like an inferior imitation, which is kind of worse, so in that case you're better off doing it a different way. Erin Fitzgerald probably made the right choice by doing her own thing, because frankly there's probably no way to completely satisfy me in this case. And hey, it's still way better than her shrill Japanese voice.

Japanese Chie is best Chie

#179 Edited by Zeik (2111 posts) -

@bocam: There are certainly worse Japanese voices out there (*cough*Rise*cough*) but I still really don't like Chie's. It's kind of funny, because I think half of the Japanese cast is actually really good, but the other half is pretty much unbearable.

#180 Edited by bigjeffrey (4157 posts) -
#181 Posted by Kazzenn (114 posts) -

New Chie is better and this is coming from someone who played P4 when it first came out, she sounds more like an energetic teenager who is kind of annoying.

#182 Edited by DeadpanCakes (494 posts) -

New Chie is okay. I thought she did a much better job with her lines that involved the mindset of "Woah! We're in a tv! Fighting with demons! Anime stuff!!!" but when it came to the character interactions and more mundane "normal teenage" dialogue, she got rather annoying. And y'know, that's fine, I guess, 'cause that's her archetype. But what I loved about original Chie is that she came off as a normal human being first, before she adhered to that outspoken, kinda annoying anime girl archetype. Yeah, she kinda sounded a bit old, but honestly, I met a bunch of teenagers who sound waayyy older than they should sound.

I guess I like old Chie better because she just delivered her lines without being over the top and loud. Sure, that's her archetype, but the entire idea of the game is subverting those archetypes. I will say, though, that I really enjoyed new Chie's romance path, and that she did a real good job of sounding awkward when it came to relationship stuff.

#183 Posted by TheSilentTruth (1105 posts) -

Y'know, before playing Golden, I honestly thought this thread (and threads like this on other sites) would just be filled with elitism. But while playing Golden and re-watching the endurance run while dungeon crawling, the differences between the voices are night and day to me in some aspects.

I actually like the newer voice, now that she lost her lisp after saving Yukiko.

#184 Posted by Aviar (365 posts) -

After listening to the sound clip of old Chie, I have to say, I prefer the newer voice in P4G. She definitely sounds much younger with the newer voice and I think her over the top voice is a little better than the older sounding Chie which doesn't even sound like a teen-age girl in my opinion.

#185 Edited by Karmosin (197 posts) -

When people say: "She sounds more like a teenager" I get what they're saying but the truth is, I've heard alot of very different female voices while going to highschool and they all sound so very different. Some sound younger and some sound very mature in their voices, in fact I think that most of them had a somewhat more mature voice than not.

I like the new voice and I like the old one, for very different reasons. The old one was kinda hit and miss, but it had a charm to it and when she got it right it was very good. I especially remember liking the way she said the line "Just the same as what you did to us" (may not be exactly correct but something like that.) after the girls got their revenge by signing the guys up for cross-dressing. Yeah, it was kinda akward at times, but mostly I felt it was a good kind of awkward.

But yeah, I've got no gripes with the new one, except that it can feel kinda generic sometimes and it takes until about after Yukikos part to get good.

#186 Edited by Flappy (2034 posts) -

This is one of those threads that always seems to find its way to the top. I'ma say it one mo' gain:

New Chie > Old Chie

Old Chie never bothered to meet you late at night and talk about various topics. New Chie? She's all about that love and affection (or friendship, if you friendzoned her like I did). That's the power of the Vita new voice at work, mayne!

#187 Edited by Fitzgerald (173 posts) -

Just watched a YouTube video of Golden...

New Chie is gratingly bad.... :(

Jeff Gerstmann, you are consistently the most wrong Giantbomber. (But at least you're hilarious)

#188 Posted by bigjeffrey (4157 posts) -

Jeff Gerstmann, you are consistently the most wrong Giantbomber. (But at least you're hilarious)

???

#189 Edited by LiquidPrince (15606 posts) -

I've probably posted in this thread at some point before, but I prefer new Chie much more over old Chie in terms of actual voice acting skill. She's just way better. The only reason I like old Chie is because of fond endurance run memories. New Chie is better though.

#190 Edited by Miyuki (174 posts) -

I still like old Chie, but new Chie has grown on me!

#191 Posted by Capum15 (4571 posts) -

Just started playing P4G an hour or so ago, and man, she sounds so weird. I'll get used to it but it's just weird to hear this voice from her.

#192 Edited by ChrisHarris (172 posts) -

The new voice is definitely more appropriate for her and I might like it more if I had experienced that version first, but I will miss a lot of things about the old Chie. There's obviously the weird "Aha. Is this our chance?" line that's so bad it's good, but the little yells she always made in combat were perfect.

#193 Posted by ch3burashka (4902 posts) -

It's heartbreaking, really. I just got it off of Amazon for 20 bucks. I knew that the voice actress for my favorite character had changed and I'd heard the two compared, but I figured I'll get over it. I'm two in-game days in and it's really painful. It's easy to say that the entire ER ruined me on any Chie alternative VA's, but it's not even that. From an objective point of view, OG Chie had a tomboy-ish personality and was soft-spoken. The new VA (Erin Fitzgerald?) sounds like Generic Anime Background Whiny Girl #3. It doesn't fit with who I know Chie to be. Maybe I can get over it, but so far I play for 10 minutes, then pause the Vita to come up for air, so to speak. Realities of business and all that, but this is frustrating.

#194 Posted by Capum15 (4571 posts) -

@ch3burashka: I've managed just about 20 hours in the game and I've gotten used to the voice now. Granted I've spent like 6 hours on Floor 7 of Yukiko's dungeon grinding, purely because my party's SP never depleted. After being wiped twice by the fucking King and his stupid Rampage, I just started grinding a bit for some extra money and then just kept going and I've gotten used to Chie's chime-ins during battle and have started coming around on her normal conversations outside of the TV. Hopefully you'll get used to it, because damn, this version of the game is awesome.

Also I totally stomped that fucking King when I went back up there. Right in his face. His stupid smug face.

#195 Posted by MachoFantastico (4299 posts) -

Having played through some of Persona 4 Golden, I found the voice irritating and way to high pitched. That sort of thing never usually bothers me but boy, at times it likes nails down a chalkboard.

#196 Posted by benpicko (1923 posts) -

Thanks for reminding me why I haven't touched this in months

#197 Edited by AndrewB (7190 posts) -

Still definitely one of those things you'd be perfectly fine with if you didn't associate the old voice to her image. Because of that, it's impossible for me to pick which is "better" after all, although I also have seen very little of the new through clips from P4A and P4G.

#198 Posted by JJWeatherman (14485 posts) -

What a bummer! I just started Golden, and the shrill, whiney, lispy new Chie voice is such a let down. I sort of agree with a poster above who said she used to sound like a more serious woman in her mid 30s, but I don't know, that sort of made the character.

Everything else about Golden seems like an improvement, though, so I'll live. It's probably for the best, as it'll mean I'll be more likely to pursue other relationships. Because you know, even though I've already seen Chie get to max social rank, I wouldn't have been able to resist doing it again if she were as charming as she used to be.

#199 Edited by Jedted (2258 posts) -

This is why Golden Chie is the best: Old Chie vs Golden Chie

Still prefer the old voice actress?

#200 Posted by obcdexter (531 posts) -

@jedted said:

This is why Golden Chie is the best: Old Chie vs Golden Chie

Still prefer the old voice actress?

Yes, absolutely. Though I didn't hate new Chie at all. I can happily admit the new girl is the better voice actress, it's just that I do not find her voice unique in any way. The original VA's awkwardness and overall tone made for a great character becoming unforgettable, in my humble opinion. But nothing to start a war over. Again.

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