Persona 5's "Color"

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#1 Posted by Landon (4144 posts) -

Persona 3 used a lot of blues throughout the game, while Persona 4 used a lot of yellows and orange. Even on Persona 3 Portable, when you play as the girl, there is a large use of pink. I like this because it gives all the menus a very stylish look. What color do you think P5 will have, if you want it to have one at all. Personally, I really like the color red or green.

#2 Posted by TheGremp (2064 posts) -

I've never liked green menus...  Kinda in-your-face annoying.  Red would be cool though. 
 
It kinda depends on the vibe of the game.  P3 was darker and mellow, thus it was blue.  P4 was more comedic and friendly, thus the bright colors.  Red would be nice since it would be more towards the darker feel, which I enjoyed much more.

#3 Posted by RipTheVeins (1546 posts) -

I believe there's already a topic about this..

#4 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1480 posts) -

Green or purple, purple being my hopeful, green being the more plausible.

#5 Posted by Pepsiman (2478 posts) -
@TheGremp: You're on the right track in presuming that the colors are representative of those games' underlying themes, although colors in Japan tend to have different connotations than they do in Western cultures. In fact, Play Magazine had an interview with the art director where he actually directly commented on the significance of the colors. I'll just copy and paste the question and answer out of sheer laziness. 
 
"Blue seemed to be the theme color for P3, and yellow for P4. Are theme colors a conscious choice? What do they represent?"

"When I work on a title, its theme color is very important to me. I think when a person remembers things unconsciously, what leaves the strongest impression isn’t words or shape, but color. Persona 3’s theme color, blue, symbolizes adolescence; Persona 4’s yellow is the color of happiness. Both meanings are tied to Japanese culture, so it might be hard for western audiences to understand."
 
So ultimately the color is really determined according to the game's plot and undertones, so really, it's anyone's guess as to what Persona 5's color will be. Kudos if they can do a convincing brown without the Unreal Engine, though.
#6 Posted by Metroid545 (1823 posts) -

I was thinkin purple

#7 Posted by uberpwner93 (413 posts) -

I would love a very blood red theme. Not like a pink, maroon, or an orange tint... RED! A very definitive red.

#8 Posted by Asurastrike (2166 posts) -

Black menus with black text.

#9 Posted by Red (5995 posts) -

Red.

#10 Posted by Blair (2507 posts) -

Purple or brown would be suitable and really nice.
 
Both are very hot colours right now.

#11 Posted by uberpwner93 (413 posts) -
@Blair said:
" Purple or brown would be suitable and really nice.  Both are very hot colours right now. "
Brown? They would have to do the right kind of brown. I wouldn't want crap color menus.
#12 Posted by Landon (4144 posts) -
@uberpwner93 said:
" @Blair said:
" Purple or brown would be suitable and really nice.  Both are very hot colours right now. "
Brown? They would have to do the right kind of brown. I wouldn't want crap color menus. "
I don't remember ANY game that looked good with a lot of brown.
#13 Posted by unclejohnny79 (685 posts) -

i really liked what they did with the yellow in p4

#14 Posted by vidiot (2737 posts) -

I got to admit, I was hesitant when I first saw the yellow in P4. There's a reason yellow isn't primarily used for giant menus and or websites. To have your gui be that color predominantly was risky, but they totally nailed it for the most part.

#15 Posted by Blair (2507 posts) -
@Landon said:
" @uberpwner93 said:
" @Blair said:
" Purple or brown would be suitable and really nice.  Both are very hot colours right now. "
Brown? They would have to do the right kind of brown. I wouldn't want crap color menus. "
I don't remember ANY game that looked good with a lot of brown. "
That's why it's the perfect choice, it's unprecedented and potentially very snappy.
 
A game could look gorgeous and ultra stylish in a tasteful set of natural (perhaps wood coloured) browns and shades of tan.
#16 Posted by chandoo (233 posts) -

Persona 5 should really do what P3P is doing, multiple colors for multiple main characters.

#17 Posted by C2C (855 posts) -

Well purple was used in Persona PSP... so that rules that out 
 
You know red and black sounds great actually.  If they had the tone be something dark and sinister (WipeOut Fury comes to mind) It would  totally be great.

#18 Posted by PenguinDust (12523 posts) -

Red is what I would choose for the 5th game.

#19 Posted by Celegus (82 posts) -

I'd vote green, but I doubt anything could really beat P4's yellow.

#20 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@Pepsiman said:
" @TheGremp: You're on the right track in presuming that the colors are representative of those games' underlying themes, although colors in Japan tend to have different connotations than they do in Western cultures. In fact, Play Magazine had an interview with the art director where he actually directly commented on the significance of the colors. I'll just copy and paste the question and answer out of sheer laziness. 
 
"Blue seemed to be the theme color for P3, and yellow for P4. Are theme colors a conscious choice? What do they represent?""When I work on a title, its theme color is very important to me. I think when a person remembers things unconsciously, what leaves the strongest impression isn’t words or shape, but color. Persona 3’s theme color, blue, symbolizes adolescence; Persona 4’s yellow is the color of happiness. Both meanings are tied to Japanese culture, so it might be hard for western audiences to understand."  So ultimately the color is really determined according to the game's plot and undertones, so really, it's anyone's guess as to what Persona 5's color will be. Kudos if they can do a convincing brown without the Unreal Engine, though. "
Interesting.  I had heard that color in Japan had different meanings, but I think yellow can universally mean happiness.  It's so bright...  But red was also very used in Persona 3 via the Dark Hour.  There was lots of what we can assume is blood everywhere, even blood waterfalls in Tartarus itself.
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#21 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -

Maybe Atlus's UI team will go, uh, "postmodern" for Persona 5.  I'm talking minimalism, white and black, DOT Pictogram-style imagery, and Helvetica.  Everywhere.  Bold, narrow, italic, whatever.  See: Quick Look: Wipeout HD Fury.

#22 Posted by luce (4045 posts) -

low saturated purple

#23 Posted by SenorTinman (18 posts) -

Gray perhaps?

#24 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@gakon5 said:
" Maybe Atlus's UI team will go, uh, "postmodern" for Persona 5.  I'm talking minimalism, white and black, DOT Pictogram-style imagery, and Helvetica.  Everywhere.  Bold, narrow, italic, whatever.  See: Quick Look: Wipeout HD Fury. "
Ooh, that would be pretty neat.  I'd like to see how it matches up with the themes presented in the game.
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#25 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ said:
" @gakon5 said:
" Maybe Atlus's UI team will go, uh, "postmodern" for Persona 5.  I'm talking minimalism, white and black, DOT Pictogram-style imagery, and Helvetica.  Everywhere.  Bold, narrow, italic, whatever.  See: Quick Look: Wipeout HD Fury. "
Ooh, that would be pretty neat.  I'd like to see how it matches up with the themes presented in the game. "
If we concede that Persona 3 = dark = blue, and Persona 4 = happy = yellow, I'm not sure where white and black leave us thematically.  Or where it fits in with the music, etc.  Somehow, the visual styles, themes, and interfaces of P3 and P4 matched up to give each game a distinct feel.
#26 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@gakon5 said:
" @FluxWaveZ said:
" @gakon5 said:
" Maybe Atlus's UI team will go, uh, "postmodern" for Persona 5.  I'm talking minimalism, white and black, DOT Pictogram-style imagery, and Helvetica.  Everywhere.  Bold, narrow, italic, whatever.  See: Quick Look: Wipeout HD Fury. "
Ooh, that would be pretty neat.  I'd like to see how it matches up with the themes presented in the game. "
If we concede that Persona 3 = dark = blue, and Persona 4 = happy = yellow, I'm not sure where white and black leave us thematically.  Or where it fits in with the music, etc.  Somehow, the visual styles, themes, and interfaces of P3 and P4 matched up to give each game a distinct feel. "
Yeah,one thing I can think of is if it had a futuristic vibe which coincides with the Wipeout HD example you gave.  I'm not sure that that theme would fit with a Persona game though.  Some things other than that could be: the game could have a focus on the yin and yang concept (having a heavier focus of evil and good or something else that are opposites) or, kind of following the same idea of the yin and yang, it could have a focus on life and death as I believe white is the color of life in Japan and black, as in our society, can mean death.
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#27 Posted by Yukoei (1878 posts) -

Black, I want emo game.

#28 Posted by I_smell (3924 posts) -

Sand, or tea-colour.

#29 Posted by Heartbreak (288 posts) -

something that doesn't hurt my eyes

#30 Edited by FuzzYLemoN (1600 posts) -

Something tells me it'll be red. But then again, if you told me Persona 4's color was going to be yellow, I would have informed you that you are crazy. But hey, it turned out alright, so maybe P5 will go for another obscure color.

#31 Posted by AuthenticM (3733 posts) -

Indeed, I thought of either Red or Green or Purple. I hope it's Red.

#32 Posted by Krystal_Sackful (810 posts) -

I want purple and white. It has been used to great effect with the Dominion ships from DS9, Freeza, and the Scifi network. Although Green would be a nice alternative.

#33 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@Krystal_Sackful said:
" I want purple and white. It has been used to great effect with the Dominion ships from DS9, Freeza, and the Scifi network. Although Green would be a nice alternative. "
But I don't think that color scheme would look good in use with the actual interface, menus and stuff.  But again, it all depends on the theme it would have, I guess.
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#34 Posted by harinosho (596 posts) -

angelic white (that's a color right? really shiny type white?)  with black or dark theme character outlet. Kinda like people using evil means to protect the good things in there lives? f that makes sense

#35 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -

I don't think the menu color is really reflective of the themes of Persona 3 or 4.  Persona 4 is certainly "happier" than P3, and aesthetically, there was a shift from more hip hop-ish music to more J-pop, and the menus went from blue to yellow.  So we go from darker to lighter.  Persona 4's main theme is that of hidden selves (and some sexuality and gender role stuff on the side), so I can't say Persona 4's yellow menus or upbeat music are reflective of that.

#36 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@gakon5: But wasn't there an interview with one of the developers of Persona 4 that did say that the color was indeed representative of aspects of the game?  I remember reading that somewhere...  He had also said that color had different significations in Japan then here, saying what those colors meant.
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#37 Posted by animateria (3253 posts) -

Considering there is absolutely no information about this game....
 
None. None what so ever.

#38 Posted by CarolinaFan3515 (197 posts) -
@Landon said:
" @uberpwner93 said:
" @Blair said:
" Purple or brown would be suitable and really nice.  Both are very hot colours right now. "
Brown? They would have to do the right kind of brown. I wouldn't want crap color menus. "
I don't remember ANY game that looked good with a lot of brown. "
Not true......(thinking)....... Resista.......World at Wa.........Prince of Persia: The Sands of Ti....... Yeah, you're probably right.
#39 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -
@CarolinaFan3515 said:

"Not true......(thinking)....... Resista.......World at Wa.........Prince of Persia: The Sands of Ti....... Yeah, you're probably right. "

That's why I built by own UI in WoW: besides its poor layout, the whole fantasy theme is just ugly.
 
@FluxWaveZ: I went and found Play Magazine's interview with Shigenori Soejima, and you're right:

"When I work on a title, its theme color is very important to me. I think when a person remembers things unconsciously, what leaves the strongest impression isn’t words or shape, but color. Persona 3’s theme color, blue, symbolizes adolescence; Persona 4’s yellow is the color of happiness. Both meanings are tied to Japanese culture, so it might be hard for western audiences to understand." ( link)
 
So yellow is indeed representative of happiness, although adolescence is a theme of P3 and P4 (director Katsura Hashino described Persona as a whole as being a "young adult fiction"); I don't know that it stands out more in P3 thanP4.  Really, P4 does the teenage themes better anyway.  I guess I can see blue tying to death, although that symbolic link, if it ever existed, has been effectively "retconned" by Persona 3 Portable, because choosing the female protagonist changes all blue elements of the interface to be pink.  And, while yellow ties to happiness, happiness as a concept is not a central theme of Persona 4.
 
If there are any ties, Japanese or not, I suppose I don't care either way.  I'd rather they make a functional, efficient, and aesthetically-pleasing UI than work to make the color scheme match the theme of the game.  That's nothing more than a novelty to me.
#40 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@gakon5 said:  
I guess I can see blue tying to death, although that symbolic link, if it ever existed, has been effectively "retconned" by Persona 3 Portable, because choosing the female protagonist changes all blue elements of the interface to be pink. 
 
 I'd rather they make a functional, efficient, and aesthetically-pleasing UI than work to make the color scheme match the theme of the game.  That's nothing more than a novelty to me. "
Well, you do play as a girl and since everyone knows pink's a girl color, I think that it fits in well enough.  Though yeah, the death relation with the color is lost.
 
Yeah, I think it should look good before anything else.  Perhaps making a sort of symbolic link a second priority.
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#41 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ: Having watched some videos of P3P, I find it weird that the battle menu is pink, because it's pink for every character you control, and something about that is weird to me.
#42 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -
@gakon5: Just checked and... that's awesome!  Yeah, it seems pretty out of place.  Perhaps they should have recolored the battle menu color scheme for when you control the guys...  I can't imagine it would be that difficult.  But I'm loving the sound of Wiping All Out in battle, though.
 
And would you agree that Mass Destruction -> Wiping All Out -> Genocide would be the logical progression of the name?  That's one of the first things I thought of when I saw the name Wiping All Out the first time...
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#43 Posted by gakon (1952 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ: That seems... sketchy, haha.
#44 Posted by ch3burashka (5084 posts) -

I see a progresstion: Blue in P3 was subdued, sad-like - it represented the a jazzy era, as did the music. It was based on an old feel, with few modern elements.
 
Persona 4 was balls-out crazy: Orange, yellow and red-orange pallette signified a complete ownership of the game: it represented new, contemporary and unorthodox views, as did the high-school setting and the dialogue associated with it.
 
I gaze upon my crystal ball and see them moving back to a P3 feel, but so...meh. They'll combine elements of both P3's and P4's design: they'll use old designs, but they'll own them. I'm hearing a lot of purple and red, and I imagine that both will be used (both are close enough of the color circle to be appealing at the same time). 
 
I also saw people saying green, but I can't imagine them using it: P5 needs to be something serious, something worthy of the badass look of the PS3 (I think we can all agree the PS3 is the more 'mature' and serious of the two consoles, eh?). Green is too lush, too clean, too organic for a setting I KNOW will involve murder, betrayal, etc.
 
However, this is my opinion, and the color thing is just my low-level synesthesia acting up. I don't know, I just feel the 5 being red, all serious and shit.

#45 Posted by m1k3 (1330 posts) -

Persona (PSP) is purple and black.

#46 Posted by DonutFever (3551 posts) -
@Pepsiman said:
" @TheGremp: You're on the right track in presuming that the colors are representative of those games' underlying themes, although colors in Japan tend to have different connotations than they do in Western cultures. In fact, Play Magazine had an interview with the art director where he actually directly commented on the significance of the colors. I'll just copy and paste the question and answer out of sheer laziness. 
 
"Blue seemed to be the theme color for P3, and yellow for P4. Are theme colors a conscious choice? What do they represent?""When I work on a title, its theme color is very important to me. I think when a person remembers things unconsciously, what leaves the strongest impression isn’t words or shape, but color. Persona 3’s theme color, blue, symbolizes adolescence; Persona 4’s yellow is the color of happiness. Both meanings are tied to Japanese culture, so it might be hard for western audiences to understand."  So ultimately the color is really determined according to the game's plot and undertones, so really, it's anyone's guess as to what Persona 5's color will be. Kudos if they can do a convincing brown without the Unreal Engine, though. "
If this Vincent stuff is what it seemed, then I suppose a color that represents confusion?
#47 Edited by mutha3 (4985 posts) -

The recent Persona 2 PSP announcement got me thinking.....there aren't much colors left for P5.
 
Right now its:
 
P1=Purple(and sort of gray)
P2IS=Red
P2EP=?(I'm assuming Green  based on the Maya's eyes/clothes)
P3=Blue,Pink
P4=Yellow
 
Right now all that's left is orange(debatable), green, gray(debatable), white and black! And I highly doubt orange will be used. The only colors that fit with it are yellow and black, so it'll just end up looking like P4(which was filled with orange already).
 
I'm thinking green or gray is gonna be it.
 
 
Edit: Brown is a possibility as well.

#48 Edited by Catolf (2653 posts) -
@mutha3 said:

" The recent Persona 2 PSP announcement got me thinking.....there aren't much colors left for P5.  Right now its:  P1=Purple(and sort of gray)P2IS=Red P2EP=?(I'm assuming Green  based on the Maya's eyes/clothes) P3=Blue,Pink P4=Yellow  Right now all that's left is orange(debatable), green, gray(debatable), white and black! And I highly doubt orange will be used. The only colors that fit with it are yellow and black, so it'll just end up looking like P4(which was filled with orange already).  I'm thinking green or gray is gonna be it.   Edit: Brown is a possibility as well. "

I would honestly love a Black and white theme, black and while always seem dynamic to me... also, i'd like to see...gears.. i don't know why.
#49 Posted by TheWiFiJedi (60 posts) -

I don't care what color I just want Persona 5 right now!

#50 Posted by BulletproofMonk (2721 posts) -

Something about Persona 5 just feels like black.

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