Yep, Persona 5's Coming to North America

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#51 Posted by Fitzgerald (315 posts) -

2015 marks the return of the Endurance Run! Mark my words!!

Seriously though, I want them to Endurance Run this game while it's still fresh so that some jerk doesn't email them a spoiler-filled web comic during it... freaking jerk whoever that was.

#52 Edited by BigJeffrey (5173 posts) -

But it's Europe we're worried about!

2020 Persona 5 EU

#53 Posted by believer258 (12182 posts) -

How was this first commented on in 2009?

#54 Posted by Zeik (2756 posts) -

I swear on all that is holy, if Atlus region locks this game like they did with the fighting game... I will leave several aggressive notes with occasional begging online where Atlus will likely never look.

I do not expect that to happen again. There were very specific circumstances that led to that happening, not the least of which being Index's financial woes, which is no longer a factor.

@believer258 said:

@differenceengine said:

@believer258: The titles I listed addressed the aspect of the previous post that minimized Atlus' international audience. You're addressing some other point that I never raised.

And actually, FFXIII, Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4 belong on that list as well. But you knew this already. I could even include Resonance of Fate (Sega) too. I'm pretty certain at this point, given your tone that you're not actually interested in keeping a civil discussion going.

Hey now! You started it! Besides, it's quite clear that @zeik is more intelligent and mature than both of us.

Let's get back to basics - why are you mad that Atlus isn't releasing this on the 360? Again, companies as niche as Atlus don't stick around if they don't manage money well and make measured decisions on what games get released on what platforms (side note: This is probably why Sega bought them in the first place and why they're largely leaving Atlus alone as far as we know). The question of whether or not there would be a 360 port likely came up somewhere, and it was likely discussed by men even topper than @zeik and far better than you or I, and they decided against it. They have their reasons and they're almost certainly good ones.

It's this kind of crap that is part of the reason why I'm primarily a PC gamer now. Aside from the faulty hardware and fragmentation, irritating exclusives just take the fun out of console gaming for me.

I get especially irked when a company will offer up scraps like spin-off titles to other platforms in an attempt at a quick cash grab, but not the main course. Sort of like what Hideo Kojima does with Metal Gear. It's insulting to get used like that. Part of making measured decisions means also doing what is necessary at times to expand your business. If Atlus made an expensive title like Catherine a muliplat in addition to releasing a spin-off tied to one of their major IPs, wouldn't it make sense to build on that to increase your audience and bring in more fans? Shoot, even the WiiU is getting a Persona spin-off. Makes too much sense to me, which makes Atlus' decision making all the more maddening.

Because the PC totally doesn't have any exclusives or anything. If you want to get down to the nitty-gritty you could argue that the PC has several tiers of exclusives, since unlike a console simply buying a PC isn't enough to guarantee you'll be able to play everything released for it, even within the same lifespan as a console.

Also Catherine was not an expensive game, relatively speaking. It was on an HD console and looked pretty for what it was, but it was a very small scale game. The type of game you make to test the waters of new consoles before jumping in with something much bigger and more expensive.

#55 Posted by Zeik (2756 posts) -

How was this first commented on in 2009?

Time travel theme confirmed?

#56 Posted by WalkerTR77 (1390 posts) -

I am a Persona slave! Manumit me.

#57 Edited by believer258 (12182 posts) -

Man, there's some funky shit going on here. @patrickklepek's news isn't on the first page when I click on this from the forums, and all of this:

@zeik said:

@viking_funeral said:

I swear on all that is holy, if Atlus region locks this game like they did with the fighting game... I will leave several aggressive notes with occasional begging online where Atlus will likely never look.

I do not expect that to happen again. There were very specific circumstances that led to that happening, not the least of which being Index's financial woes, which is no longer a factor.

@differenceengine said:

@believer258 said:

@differenceengine said:

@believer258: The titles I listed addressed the aspect of the previous post that minimized Atlus' international audience. You're addressing some other point that I never raised.

And actually, FFXIII, Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4 belong on that list as well. But you knew this already. I could even include Resonance of Fate (Sega) too. I'm pretty certain at this point, given your tone that you're not actually interested in keeping a civil discussion going.

Hey now! You started it! Besides, it's quite clear that @zeik is more intelligent and mature than both of us.

Let's get back to basics - why are you mad that Atlus isn't releasing this on the 360? Again, companies as niche as Atlus don't stick around if they don't manage money well and make measured decisions on what games get released on what platforms (side note: This is probably why Sega bought them in the first place and why they're largely leaving Atlus alone as far as we know). The question of whether or not there would be a 360 port likely came up somewhere, and it was likely discussed by men even topper than @zeik and far better than you or I, and they decided against it. They have their reasons and they're almost certainly good ones.

It's this kind of crap that is part of the reason why I'm primarily a PC gamer now. Aside from the faulty hardware and fragmentation, irritating exclusives just take the fun out of console gaming for me.

I get especially irked when a company will offer up scraps like spin-off titles to other platforms in an attempt at a quick cash grab, but not the main course. Sort of like what Hideo Kojima does with Metal Gear. It's insulting to get used like that. Part of making measured decisions means also doing what is necessary at times to expand your business. If Atlus made an expensive title like Catherine a muliplat in addition to releasing a spin-off tied to one of their major IPs, wouldn't it make sense to build on that to increase your audience and bring in more fans? Shoot, even the WiiU is getting a Persona spin-off. Makes too much sense to me, which makes Atlus' decision making all the more maddening.

Because the PC totally doesn't have any exclusives or anything. If you want to get down to the nitty-gritty you could argue that the PC has several tiers of exclusives, since unlike a console simply buying a PC isn't enough to guarantee you'll be able to play everything released for it, even within the same lifespan as a console.

Also Catherine was not an expensive game, relatively speaking. It was on an HD console and looked pretty for what it was, but it was a very small scale game. The type of game you make to test the waters of new consoles before jumping in with something much bigger and more expensive.

started off in a completely different thread altogether. This one, to be exact. And when I click on this link from the news section, the first few comments are recorded as being posted in 2009, when Patrick posted this article in February of 2014. And those comments are about color, for some reason. I seem to remember a thread where Persona 5's main color was a point of discussion.

Guess I should tag @rorie?

#58 Edited by Demoskinos (15134 posts) -

@believer258: Yeah there is some weird hocus pocus going on here. =\

#59 Posted by Rorie (2987 posts) -

It's a known issue; sorry. Being looked into.

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#60 Posted by TooWalrus (13256 posts) -

BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY

My favorite go-to comment on any persona-related forum.

#61 Posted by selbie (1968 posts) -

Sounds like Vinny and Jeff have a job to do ;)

#63 Posted by Vigorousjammer (2536 posts) -

Persona 4: Dancing All Night is coming stateside?
LOL. Out of all the games shown during that stream, that is the one I expected to stay as a Japanese exclusive.
Well, the more games, the merrier, I suppose. :P

#64 Posted by Bartima3us (16 posts) -
#65 Posted by BisonHero (7033 posts) -

@nags said:

I await emancipation.

You are slave.

#66 Edited by believer258 (12182 posts) -

I wish people would stop yelling "ENDURANCE RUN!"

That was kind of a one-time thing. P4 was the perfect game that came along at the perfect time for the perfect two people to play. Half the reason the ER was so memorable is because nobody expected P4 to be as good as it was (except maybe the people that had already played it).

If Jeff and Vinny decide to Endurance Run it, then great! I will probably watch it. I just don't think it will be quite what some of you guys would expect.

EDIT: Though, I do hope that they give it a lengthy enough Quick Look.

#67 Edited by Zeik (2756 posts) -

@believer258: I suspect the majority of the people saying that don't honestly expect it to happen. It's practically a meme now.

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