Ace Attorney 5 Revealed for the 3DS

#1 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -
  • Ace Attorney 5 is a 3DS title.
  • There will be a 15 minute playable demo at this month's TGS.
  • Phoenix Wright is the main character.
  • Wright's partner is a "mysterious girl who wears yellow". Will be properly introduced at TGS.
  • Set one year after the events of Apollo Justice. Wright becomes a lawyer once more.
  • The game will have 3D models like Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney.

More info here.

Going from my poll, most people didn't like what they did with Phoenix Wright as a character in Apollo Justice. Maybe this will redeem him in their eyes? Surprisingly, I'm a bit weirded out that Wright's the main character and not Apollo, even though I thought this is what I wanted.

Also, it seems that Famitsu states that the game's director, Shu Takumi, might not be as involved with Gyakuten Saiban 5 as much as with the prior games because of Layton vs. Ace Attorney. Hopefully that won't make it bad or anything. And, hopefully, this sees a North American release unlike Ace Attorney Investigations 2.

#2 Posted by Video_Game_King (35842 posts) -
This is gonna put out SO many eyes.
#3 Posted by wumbo3000 (932 posts) -

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMGOGMOGMGOMGOMGOGMGOMGOMGO

Okay, I'm done.

But I don't really understand why everyone hated Apollo Justice so much. Sure, he was kinda goofy, but wasn't Phoenix Wright exactly that too? I personally loved Wright in an advisor/mentor type role.

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#4 Posted by Sbaitso (463 posts) -

Objection!

#5 Edited by Melanon (58 posts) -

So hype. I actually really hope Apollo makes an appearance in the game, even if he isn't the protagonist anymore.

#6 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1504 posts) -

I'm really hoping they release a collection of the DS Ace Attorney games at some point (after all, this is Capcom). I looked into starting from the beginning a little while ago, but the DS games seem like they're hard to come by.

#7 Posted by Brodehouse (9521 posts) -

I liked Apollo. I thought the ending was bananas. But I liked Apollo as a dude. Chords of Steel.

#8 Posted by Raye (44 posts) -

Can't wait 'til TGS to get more info on this. A part of me didn't think Capcom would revisit the Ace Attorney series (haha... stupid me, this is Capcpom, after all!). Fingers crossed for a localization!

#9 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -
#10 Posted by TooWalrus (13131 posts) -
I'm finding myself more and more interested in this stuff lately, but let's say I've never played a Phoenix Wright/Ace Attorney game... where should I start? 
#11 Posted by Wraith1 (555 posts) -
#12 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@TooWalrus said:

I'm finding myself more and more interested in this stuff lately, but let's say I've never played a Phoenix Wright/Ace Attorney game... where should I start?

IN ORDER OF RELEASE IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST FOR THIS SERIES

That cannot be stressed enough. This series is all about the story, characters and references. It makes no sense to want to get into this series and do it in any other way. This means:

  1. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
  2. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All
  3. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations
  4. Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
  5. Miles Edgeworth: Ace Attorney Investigations

Technically, #5 takes place between numbers 2 and 3 (I believe), but this is the order that they absolutely must be played in.

@Wraith1: Yep, made a thread about that.

#13 Edited by TooWalrus (13131 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ: Ha, thanks. I actually like that, I appreciate a series that doesn't go out of it's way to make itself "accessible" to new players each time a new game is released.
#14 Posted by TooWalrus (13131 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ: ...aaaaaaand on that note, I just ordered a copy of the first game on eBay. I don't know if it's a good or a bad habit, but I always pay a little bit more to avoid buying from a seller who only posts a stock photo of the game. I've been burned on counterfeit GBA games and stuff before, I paid $5 extra for a copy I can see is still in the shrink-wrap. 
#15 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@TooWalrus: Any reason you didn't get it on Amazon? Regardless, enjoy that game. It's a bit dated compared to the sequels, but that really doesn't matter and I'm certain after you go through it you'll be compelled to immediately start JFA.

#16 Posted by InfamousNose (16 posts) -

It's using 3d models instead of sprites. :(

#17 Posted by TooWalrus (13131 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ: No particular reason, they were the same price (if you include the $4 prime shipping on Amazon), and since I'm not in an extreme hurry (I think I've still got like 60 hours of P3 to play through), I went with the eBay copy this time.
#18 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@InfamousNose said:

It's using 3d models instead of sprites. :(

And the 3D models look gorgeous.

#19 Posted by InfamousNose (16 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@InfamousNose said:

It's using 3d models instead of sprites. :(

And the 3D models look gorgeous.

After seeing the Prof. Layton Vs Phoenix Wright Trailer, I still think high quality sprites would have a better presentation (for both games).

#20 Posted by JackSukeru (5898 posts) -

Well I'm excited, and finally motivated to finish AA 4 and the Miles Edgeworth spinoff.

#21 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@InfamousNose said:

After seeing the Prof. Layton Vs Phoenix Wright Trailer, I still think high quality sprites would have a better presentation (for both games).

I don't know about Layton vs. Ace Attorney since I think these models look way better than that game's, but I'm fine with it instead of sprites.

#22 Edited by Wrighteous86 (3719 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ: Wow, those models look way better than I expected. Still waiting on them to start releasing these games with real animation and voiceovers on consoles though. I want a playable cartoon, dammit!

EDIT: Then again, that might be exactly what this is.

#23 Posted by Veektarius (4541 posts) -

I stopped on the last case in Justice for All. I got really annoyed by his assistant in that game (Maya was bad enough, or was it maya's sister? I can't remember which one was dead), but loved the first one. But, an assistant who's actually full-grown? That might be worth playing, and be enough to get me to start up again.

#24 Posted by InfamousNose (16 posts) -

@Veektarius said:

I stopped on the last case in Justice for All. I got really annoyed by his assistant in that game (Maya was bad enough, or was it maya's sister? I can't remember which one was dead), but loved the first one. But, an assistant who's actually full-grown? That might be worth playing, and be enough to get me to start up again.

Stick with it. The last case in Justice for all is one of the best cases in the Ace Attorney series.

#25 Posted by Ducksworth (659 posts) -

I guess I should play these games....but they're so freaking expensive =(

I'll probably have to resort to the Wii ports or get an iOS device and wait for it there.

#26 Posted by InfiniteGeass (2050 posts) -

Can I get Ace Attorney Investigations 2 please?

#27 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11423 posts) -

Well I'm stoked. Hobo Phoenix is a lawyer again. I should really play Ace Attorney Investigations, shouldn't I?

#28 Posted by YI_Orange (1124 posts) -

@ArbitraryWater: If you like Edgeworth and gumshoe(which if you don't what are you even doing playing these games) you should.

I'm so excited for this. I didn't even play Apollo Justice because fuck that guy. No Phoenix no deal. (with the exception of Edgeworth investigations).

I wish they would stop bringing back the old lady though, I strongly dislike her. Also, I hope Phoenix Wright pulls some sort of crazyness and you get to go against Manfred Von Karma again. That guy was an asshole but it was awesome.

#29 Posted by TooWalrus (13131 posts) -

Man, Justice for All is hella expensive now. Weird.

#30 Posted by papercut (3435 posts) -

This makes me happy. Hope Apollo makes an appearance though. Little guy grew on me.

#31 Posted by The_Nubster (2037 posts) -

@YI_Orange said:

I'm so excited for this. I didn't even play Apollo Justice because fuck that guy. No Phoenix no deal. (with the exception of Edgeworth investigations).

You should play the game with him in it. Eff all the haters on him, he was a great character and that was a genuinely funny game. It might even be my favourite. The additional interrogation mechanics they introduced were awesome.

#32 Posted by Petiew (1322 posts) -
#33 Posted by YI_Orange (1124 posts) -

@Petiew: Oh god dammit, you're right. I totally forgot about that.

@The_Nubster: But, but, Phoenix! This is just how I am with stuff. If it was readily available to me I'd probably play it and love it. Or if I had the money I might even buy it. I just don't like main cast changes.

#34 Posted by AlisterCat (5470 posts) -

@YI_Orange: I think Apollo Justice is the second best Ace Attorney game in the series, so it's a shame you don't like Apollo.

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#35 Posted by StarvingGamer (7919 posts) -

Hmmm, after Wright's transformation in the cool, collected badass in Apollo Justice, I don't know how I feel about him being the main character again. It would be a weird tonal shift to have the MC of an Ace Attorney game suddenly be in control all the time, but it would be a weird thematic shift for Wright to suddenly revert to his bumbling self.

Still, I can't fucking wait!

#36 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@YI_Orange said:

I'm so excited for this. I didn't even play Apollo Justice because fuck that guy. No Phoenix no deal. (with the exception of Edgeworth investigations).

Haha, that's a very weird thing to say because most people agree that Apollo is relegated into a secondary character in his own game when the story actually turns out to be all about Phoenix Wright. If you're excited for this game, you should probably play Apollo Justice.

@Veektarius said:

But, an assistant who's actually full-grown? That might be worth playing, and be enough to get me to start up again.

Well, the assistant in the last case of the game you stopped playing at is, in fact, full-grown and unlike any of the others.

Though, what's interesting is that this mysterious woman who's Wright's new assistant seems to be a qualified defense attorney like he is given the badge on her lapel.

#37 Edited by mutha3 (4985 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ said:

@YI_Orange said:

I'm so excited for this. I didn't even play Apollo Justice because fuck that guy. No Phoenix no deal. (with the exception of Edgeworth investigations).

Haha, that's a very weird thing to say because most people agree that Apollo is relegated into a secondary character in his own game when the story actually turns out to be all about Phoenix Wright. If you're excited for this game, you should probably play Apollo Justice.

Yeah. It's a little sad how almost no one seems to care. Phoenix was the Achilles heel of  AA4, and personally, I think I would have preferred a follow-up to AJ that actually gave Apollo an opportunity to develop  and form relationships with a new cast of colorful characters. Alas...
 
I'm really not looking forward to seeing Larry and Oldbag again.
#38 Posted by InfamousNose (16 posts) -

I just hope the main prosecutor is a scumbag like Edgeworth was in AA1. Apollo Justice had the worst one with Gavin practically being your friend.

#39 Posted by ashogo (943 posts) -

@mutha3 said:

I'm really not looking forward to seeing Larry and Oldbag again.

Those two and the fish-eyed lady are the worst. Though I love many characters in AA, those three I would be glad to never see again.

#40 Posted by mutha3 (4985 posts) -
@ashogo said:

@mutha3 said:

I'm really not looking forward to seeing Larry and Oldbag again.

Those two and the fish-eyed lady are the worst. Though I love many characters in AA, those three I would be glad to never see again.

I don't even particularly hate those characters, their shtick is just really old and overdone at this point. Hell, I'd even extend this to Gumshoe as well. Edgeworth, Maya, Phoenix even! These characters all had their arcs and we got a big, satisfying finish for all of them in Trials and Tribulations.
 
 ...I guess they could do some interesting things by setting it so far in the future, but I think I would have preferred a new trilogy with an all-new cast, new themes, new plotlines etc etc.
#41 Posted by ashogo (943 posts) -

@mutha3: Yeah, it would be a shame if AA5 doesn't do something new with its characters. I do like seeing Phoenix back, I think there are more stories which can be told with him. I like his more seasoned look, so I hope his personality has some sort of arc or progression to match.

There's always the potential for new ground to be mined with old characters, especially since this game is set 8 years after AA3, it's just a matter of whether Capcom will take that risk or just stick to safe familiar ground.

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