Do you like what they did with Phoenix Wright?

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Depicted as a rookie lawyer eventually becoming an extremely talented defense attorney, his character was changed rather dramatically in Apollo Justice. Presumably because of Capcom wanting him to be included in the game with the new protagonist, Phoenix Wright was made into a passive and unmotivated individual, becoming known as "hobo Phoenix" by the fans.  
 
My question is whether fans of the series were disappointed by this transformation. Do you think that this was uncalled for? That in the time skip from T&T to Apollo Justice, Wright should have been a different person compared to what he actually became? Or do you think that this transformation was a good one? Perhaps you thought that this was a natural evolution to his character?
#3 Posted by JusticeJanitor (143 posts) -

I liked Apollo Justice, I really did. With that said, I did not like what they did with Mr. Wright. To me, he felt like a completely different character. I have to keep reminding myself : "That dude dressed like a hobo, is Phoenix Wright. That lovable dork from the other games." And it never clicked for me. They should just have named him something else. He's an interesting character but he doesn't "feel" like Phoenix Wright to me. I know the quite a few years passed since Phoenix's days as a lawyer and that people change with time but this is a bit much.

#4 Posted by Video_Game_King (36018 posts) -

No, because I haven't played any of the games to develop an opinion on any of them.

#5 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:

No, because I haven't played any of the games to develop an opinion on any of them.

So, "other"?
#6 Posted by Video_Game_King (36018 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@Video_Game_King said:

No, because I haven't played any of the games to develop an opinion on any of them.

So, "other"?

Motherfucker.

#7 Edited by damswedon (3175 posts) -

I was completely fine with it.

I do however think he was the focus of too much of the story and ended up overshadowing Apollo and Trucy because of it.

#8 Edited by ArbitraryWater (11477 posts) -

Not really, no. I haven't played Apollo Justice since it came out (because I didn't like it for a multitude of reasons that include Hobo Phoenix), but I'm pretty sure he's kind of a bastard. If I recall correctly, he forges evidence in the first case as a way to get revenge against Kristoff and then basically spends the rest of the game being cryptic and generally unhelpful. It isn't until the last case of the game, which is mostly a flashback anyways, that he becomes likeable again.

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#9 Posted by SamFo (1514 posts) -

In the context of the game it makes total sense?

This poll is misleading. They didn't just change him.

The idea is that you don't know who the guy is, until it's revealed to be phoenix. All you did was ruin an early game twist and make a misleading poll, I HATE YOU

#10 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

I think when I first played the game, I was shocked at what they did with Phoenix. With how he was going in the previous trilogy, I was expecting him to be a kind of "nice guy Manfred von Karma" in the future, with a reputable law firm where everyone wanted to go to to be defended. However, now I've come to appreciate his new character. I like the "downfall" concept they took with him while still portraying him as someone who is much wiser than he looks (especially with how he handled the last case). 

#11 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

I loked the dude version of phoenix

#12 Posted by TheKramer89 (422 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

No, because I haven't played any of the games to develop an opinion on any of them.

So why the fuck are you posting?

#13 Posted by Video_Game_King (36018 posts) -

@TheKramer89:

He had a question; I had an answer.

#14 Posted by onarum (2016 posts) -

I didn't mind all that much, makes sense in the context of the story , though the Apollo justice game is very weak if compared to the original trilogy, still a nice game none the less.

#15 Posted by TheKramer89 (422 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@TheKramer89:

He had a question; I had an answer.

So your opinion is "No" even though you don't have an opinion? You don't have to post in every goddamn thread, is what I'm getting at.

#16 Posted by adoggz (2042 posts) -

@JusticeJanitor said:

I liked Apollo Justice, I really did. With that said, I did not like what they did with Mr. Wright. To me, he felt like a completely different character. I have to keep reminding myself : "That dude dressed like a hobo, is Phoenix Wright. That lovable dork from the other games." And it never clicked for me. They should just have named him something else. He's an interesting character but he doesn't "feel" like Phoenix Wright to me. I know the quite a few years passed since Phoenix's days as a lawyer and that people change with time but this is a bit much.

i could not say it any better myself. In other words "this".

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#17 Posted by Video_Game_King (36018 posts) -

@TheKramer89:

You seem to think that my not liking something automatically means I dislike it. The two are not the same at all.

#18 Posted by TheKramer89 (422 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@TheKramer89:

You seem to think that my not liking something automatically means I dislike it. The two are not the same at all.

Hey you're almost at 20,000 posts!! Think of how cool you'll be when you get there!!!

#19 Posted by Video_Game_King (36018 posts) -

@TheKramer89:

Actually, I do want to reach 20,000 posts just to get it over with.

#20 Posted by TheKramer89 (422 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@TheKramer89:

Actually, I do want to reach 20,000 posts just to get it over with.

yeah, we can tell.

#21 Posted by StalkingTurnip (150 posts) -

He wasn't bad exactly but it didn't really even feel like Phoenix Wright. They should have just made him a separate character than trying to tie it into the last trilogy.

#22 Posted by Codeacious (960 posts) -

I count Apollo Justice as the low point of the series for me personally. That's not saying it's a bad game, I just felt like the game wasn't as interesting to me than the previous three installments, and Investigations was better. That said, I'm kind of inbetween of what they did with Phoenix's character, but I'll have to go with no, I don't like what they did. Phoenix was always a somewhat insecure person in the first three games, but confident and outgoing when he needed to be. In Apollo Justice, I felt like they played up the "mysterious and scarred" aspect a little too much.

#23 Posted by yoshimitz707 (2450 posts) -

They ruined him! And I hate that.

#24 Posted by Shady (503 posts) -

@TheKramer89 said:

@Video_Game_King said:

No, because I haven't played any of the games to develop an opinion on any of them.

So why the fuck are you posting?

Because this is Giant Bomb, where you make shitty posts.

#25 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4970 posts) -
@Shady said:

@TheKramer89 said:

@Video_Game_King said:

No, because I haven't played any of the games to develop an opinion on any of them.

So why the fuck are you posting?

Because this is Giant Bomb, where you make shitty posts.

Should be the motto for the forums!
#26 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

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From the results, many people might be happy with what happened to Mr. Wright after AA4.

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