Ways to play overseas games on newest PS2?

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#1 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -

So I just got the latest Playstation 2 model and I would like to play some overseas games without chipping my PS2. 
 
Any suggestions?

#2 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -

Sorry...but... 
 
BU- 
 
    
D:

#3 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -

Chip?

#4 Posted by JJOR64 (18995 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba:   You are going to have to get region specific PS2s if you don't want to chip your PS2.
#5 Edited by Jeust (10655 posts) -

Or Magic Swap, but that fucks up your drive.

#6 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@JJOR64 said:
" @NekuSakuraba:   You are going to have to get region specific PS2s if you don't want to chip your PS2. "
I could have sworn there were other ways.
#7 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" Or Magic Swap, but that fucks up your drive. "
Really? How?
#8 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" Or Magic Swap, but that fucks up your drive. "
i can't imagine that it fucks up your drive more than a mod chip does. my modded PS2 has been chipped for about 5 years and it runs like absolute shit now. 
#9 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" Or Magic Swap, but that fucks up your drive. "
Really? How? "
Magic Swap wiki:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swap_Magic 
 
The problem with it, is that you have to change the disk with the console turned on. And that isn't very good to the health of a ps2. 
#10 Edited by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:

" @Jeust said:

" Or Magic Swap, but that fucks up your drive. "

i can't imagine that it fucks up your drive more than a mod chip does. my modded PS2 has been chipped for about 5 years and it runs like absolute shit now.  "
Yeap, but i think that depends also in the chip, as there are several, and the quality of the technical service. Magic Swap is more hazardous as you have to change disks on the fly with the console working.   
 
But this isn't my field of expertise as i never done it, although i thought about it. But by now if i did it my ps2 would collapse of old age. 
#11 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @AjayRaz said:

" @Jeust said:

" Or Magic Swap, but that fucks up your drive. "

i can't imagine that it fucks up your drive more than a mod chip does. my modded PS2 has been chipped for about 5 years and it runs like absolute shit now.  "
Yeap, but i think that depends also in the chip, as there are several, and the quality of the technical service. Magic Swap is more hazardous as you have to change disks on the fly with the console working.    But this isn't my field of expertise as i never done it, although i thought about it. But by now if i did it my ps2 would collapse of old age.  "
I was counting on Magic Swap so...-__- 
 
I thought that would be less hazardous.
#12 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better. 
#13 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game?
#14 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd. 
#15 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd.  "
''  Don't wait for the latest PS2 games to be released in your country! You only have to swap the disc ONCE even with DVD games! Easy operation!'' 
 
So what does it mean by that?
#16 Edited by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:

" @Jeust said:

" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd.  "
''  Don't wait for the latest PS2 games to be released in your country! You only have to swap the disc ONCE even with DVD games! Easy operation!''  So what does it mean by that? "
It means that each time you want to start the game you have to put first the magic swap dvd, and after a minute or two the game you want to play. The idea of the procedure is to make the ps2 think it is reading a valid dvd each time the game starts. And doing that for every game, or a lot, will probably damage the console much faster. 
#17 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd.  "
''  Don't wait for the latest PS2 games to be released in your country! You only have to swap the disc ONCE even with DVD games! Easy operation!''  So what does it mean by that? "
It means that each time you want to start the game you have to put first the magic swap dvd, and aftera minute or two the game you want to play. The idea of the procedure is to make the ps2 think it is reading a valid dvd each time the game starts.  "
Any other software mods?
#18 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd.  "
''  Don't wait for the latest PS2 games to be released in your country! You only have to swap the disc ONCE even with DVD games! Easy operation!''  So what does it mean by that? "
It means that each time you want to start the game you have to put first the magic swap dvd, and aftera minute or two the game you want to play. The idea of the procedure is to make the ps2 think it is reading a valid dvd each time the game starts.  "
Any other software mods? "
No, i don't think so. The ps2 doesn't have a internal hardrive, what makes it harder to conceive software mods. 
#19 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd.  "
''  Don't wait for the latest PS2 games to be released in your country! You only have to swap the disc ONCE even with DVD games! Easy operation!''  So what does it mean by that? "
It means that each time you want to start the game you have to put first the magic swap dvd, and aftera minute or two the game you want to play. The idea of the procedure is to make the ps2 think it is reading a valid dvd each time the game starts.  "
Any other software mods? "
No, i don't think so. The ps2 doesn't have a internal hardrive, what makes it harder to conceive software mods.  "
Will the Swap Magic still work okay? It would be more convenient but I guess I have no other options but a mod chip?
#20 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: it'll work, but it's more hazardous than a mod chip because of how it works. 
#21 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:
" @NekuSakuraba: it'll work, but it's more hazardous than a mod chip because of how it works.  "
What could happen?
#22 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Probably not. I think overall chipping is better.  "
But I thought you only have to do it once for each game? "
With Magic Swap you have to do it once for each time you start the game cd.  "
''  Don't wait for the latest PS2 games to be released in your country! You only have to swap the disc ONCE even with DVD games! Easy operation!''  So what does it mean by that? "
It means that each time you want to start the game you have to put first the magic swap dvd, and aftera minute or two the game you want to play. The idea of the procedure is to make the ps2 think it is reading a valid dvd each time the game starts.  "
Any other software mods? "
No, i don't think so. The ps2 doesn't have a internal hardrive, what makes it harder to conceive software mods.  "
Will the Swap Magic still work okay? It would be more convenient but I guess I have no other options but a mod chip? "
The Magic Swap will probably still work okay, but for the health of your console it is probably better a mod chip. But both are risky in their own ways.
#23 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: it'll fuck the drive up, and shit won't work very well or at most-- they won't work at all. 
#24 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:
" @NekuSakuraba: it'll fuck the drive up, and shit won't work very well or at most-- they won't work at all.  "
So, if I imported an American PS2 how would that work with my TV, power sockets, etc?
#25 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: as far as i'm concerned, it'll work fine. an HD console would be a different story. 
#26 Edited by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:

" @AjayRaz said:

" @NekuSakuraba: it'll fuck the drive up, and shit won't work very well or at most-- they won't work at all.  "
So, if I imported an American PS2 how would that work with my TV, power sockets, etc? "
Will probably work well with your tv, as most recent televisions handle ntsc and pal.  
 
Power sockets, you might have to arrange an adaptor, depending of the region you live in.  
 
Probably it would be better to get a ps2 at the place you live in. Or import all your games. 
#27 Edited by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @AjayRaz said:

" @NekuSakuraba: it'll fuck the drive up, and shit won't work very well or at most-- they won't work at all.  "
So, if I imported an American PS2 how would that work with my TV, power sockets, etc? "
Will probably work well with your tv, as most recent televisions handle ntsc and pal.   Power sockets, you might have to arrange an adaptor, depending of the region you live in.   Probably it would be better to get a ps2 at the place you live in. Or import all your games.  "
I was going to get a PS2 where I live but the games I want aren't available here.
#28 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@Jeust: yep! totally forgot about adaptors. he lives in austraila so he has some weird power socket thing. 
#29 Edited by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:

" @Jeust said:

" @NekuSakuraba said:

" @AjayRaz said:

" @NekuSakuraba: it'll fuck the drive up, and shit won't work very well or at most-- they won't work at all.  "

So, if I imported an American PS2 how would that work with my TV, power sockets, etc? "
Will probably work well with your tv, as most recent televisions handle ntsc and pal.   Power sockets, you might have to arrange an adaptor, depending of the region you live in.   Probably it would be better to get a ps2 at the place you live in. Or import all your games.  "
I was going to get a PS2 where I live but the games I want aren't available here. "
Then maybe the most convenient solution would be to buy a console where you live, have it chipped, and import the games you want and can't find. That would probably work for the best. 
 
@AjayRaz:

" @Jeust: yep! totally forgot about adaptors. he lives in austraila so he has some weird power socket thing.  "

ahhhh isn't the same as the english power socket model?
#30 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@Jeust: i have no idea. i'm Canadian :P excuse my ignorance  
#31 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:
" @Jeust: i have no idea. i'm Canadian :P excuse my ignorance   "
No problem! I never been to Australia so i can say either, but it seems like it. 
#32 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @AjayRaz said:
" @Jeust: i have no idea. i'm Canadian :P excuse my ignorance   "
No problem! I never been to Australia so i can say either, but it seems like it.  "
Well, I guess I will just get it chipped then! 
 
Thanks for your help, guys! :D
#33 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @AjayRaz said:
" @Jeust: i have no idea. i'm Canadian :P excuse my ignorance   "
No problem! I never been to Australia so i can say either, but it seems like it.  "
Well, I guess I will just get it chipped then!  Thanks for your help, guys! :D "
No problem. :)
#34 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: no problem ! 
#35 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@AjayRaz: @Jeust: So, I just found out something. 
 
Swap Magic uses this - 
 
  
  So you just lift it up, how is that opening the PS2 while running?
#36 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: you're taking the disc out while the disc is running. 
#37 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:
" @NekuSakuraba: you're taking the disc out while the disc is running.  "
But it stops spinning...>__<
#38 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -

Which model number is the latest PS2 slimline in Australia?    

#39 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @AjayRaz said:
" @NekuSakuraba: you're taking the disc out while the disc is running.  "
But it stops spinning...>__< "
it has to, or that way would really screw the console. 
 
But if you look closely that is a modded ps2. You can mod it like he did, or if you don't you'll have to use it differently. And you have to switch the dvd or cd for each game you want to play from a different region.
#40 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that? 
#41 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@AjayRaz: I love you. <3
#42 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that?  "
True, but it wears out the hardware much faster.  
 
You have to see what works for you better. 
#43 Posted by AjayRaz (12428 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @AjayRaz: I love you. <3 "
why, thank you! 
#44 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that?  "
True, but it wears out the hardware much faster.   You have to see what works for you better.  "
So...confused...must...PICK WHAT TO DO...ARRRGHHH!
#45 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@AjayRaz said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @AjayRaz: I love you. <3 "
why, thank you!  "
:( 
 
You don't love me back?! :(
#46 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that?  "
True, but it wears out the hardware much faster.   You have to see what works for you better.  "
So...confused...must...PICK WHAT TO DO...ARRRGHHH! "
Choices, choices... 
#47 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that?  "
True, but it wears out the hardware much faster.   You have to see what works for you better.  "
So...confused...must...PICK WHAT TO DO...ARRRGHHH! "
Choices, choices...  "
Does it damage the disk or the console?
#48 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that?  "
True, but it wears out the hardware much faster.   You have to see what works for you better.  "
So...confused...must...PICK WHAT TO DO...ARRRGHHH! "
Choices, choices...  "
Does it damage the disk or the console? "
Both, but the console damage is worse. 
#49 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7241 posts) -
@Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Jeust: Another thing is that Swap Magic doesn't void the warranty while a chip does. Any suggestions on that?  "
True, but it wears out the hardware much faster.   You have to see what works for you better.  "
So...confused...must...PICK WHAT TO DO...ARRRGHHH! "
Choices, choices...  "
Does it damage the disk or the console? "
Both, but the console damage is worse.  "
How does it damage the disk?
#50 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19346 posts) -

I'm not sure those of you saying that the Swap Magic + Flip Top solution damages the console and the disc are very educated on what it actually does.  The Flip Top simply blocks out the 3 sensors on the PS2 to make the console think that there's a disc inserted when there really isn't one.  The Swap Magic disc, after being inserted, will automatically stop when it boots to its menu, so opening the top and swapping a disc does no damage at all .   It's technically the same thing as swapping a disc when the console is shut down because absolutely no activity is happening with the system that makes the disc spin once the Swap Magic disc stops spinning.  
 
Using the soft mod, Swap Magic along with a Flip Top (I wouldn't recommend a Slide Card as that could actually damage the PS2's drive), is probably your safest and most effective solution.

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